FML.
I'm discussing the different between LIE and WRONG on an internet forum, in bed, at 530am.
FML.
I'm discussing the different between LIE and WRONG on an internet forum, in bed, at 530am.
@Tinuviel Points to you. I think textbook definition, as you just described, answers this one.
Being wrong is not the same as lying, because a lie is a purposeful deception and being wrong is simply "inaccurately believing something to be true".
I mean, I suppose you could go with the definition of "wrong" as an adjective (e.x. "what you are doing is wrong"), which telling a lie IS considered to be wrong most of the time, but even then wrong is subjective. I told my SO I spent only X on her for Christmas, but I ending up getting a few extra things for her later on. Lie = Wrong? Eh.
Yikes.
Well, anyway, I had a peeve. Nothing so specific in my case of whether or not someone is behavior blind. My case at the moment is more a person who has done something wrong is trying to get ahead of it by accusing someone of something. It's always a pain in the ass and I wish people were more ethical, but eh what can you do.
@Tinuviel Now you're speaking my language. I could communicate with someone entirely in OFFICE or ALWAYS SUNNY gifs.
For instance...
"the accuser may truly be the perpetrator...:"
#scrantonstrangler
@mietze You're not wrong. I know a few people like that (100% believed they were wrong but were 100% the instigator/antagonist). What I keep coming back to mentally, though, is that the end result is still the same: accusations, drama, that constant feeling of wondering it will be your turn.
I have a lot of wiggle room when it comes to mental/emotional trauma and the behaviors that may come from it. However, the existence thereof does not require people to be subject to those negative behaviors. Then why you try to pull away, you become the bad person; there really is no winning.
What grinds my goat (gets my goat, grinds my gears combo) is when I know that the person doing the accusing is well aware that they've done something undeniably wrong that they simply aren't disclosing while publicly trying to damage other people's reputations with speculative accusations. Like a murderer very loudly and very adamantly pushing for someone suffer for shoplifting. It often feels like an orchestration to maintain control of where the audience is looking to ensure that the audience doesn't look at them.
I hate being in that position of having to decide whether or not the moral thing to do is speak out in defense of the person being attacked or to let the situation play out.
When people habitually give edited versions of their side of the story knowing full well that they're not innocent, forever leaving them in danger of the other side of the story being released; which would crush them like a bug.
People love to swear that they're the sheep when they're up to some wolf shit.
@bored It really comes down to basis of opinion. I think in MU the more the numbers creep up the less individualistic a character might feel, especially when you add in alts. Maybe it's just my "old school" showing, but back in the day there were 7 Camarilla clans and few bloodlines and I saw people dig for a whole lot of complexity without the need/existence of those things. Stuff like Bloodlines/RU stuff like Koldunic Sorcery grew in popularity, which I suspect is why they ended up common CG options with nWoD.
Still, back in the day of 7ClanCam, I think players who found ways to make their "painter Toreador" stand out amidst 2 or 3 other "painter Toreadors" was part of the art form.
WORKIN WIT GHOST
Coworker: "Probably gonna do the Dr. Scholls thing."
Me: "Hey, did you know that Dr. Scholls guy used to be in IT? Dude was a DBA."
Coworker: "Hah? No shit? That's cool."
Me: "Yeah. Dude was a master of INSERTS. BOOM. KONNICHIWAAA."
Coworker:
Trying to browse the internet at work because you're bored but also trying to avoid Star Wars spoilers be like:
Another WoD peeve.
In the LARP scene there was a term: "Rare and Unusual"(RU). It was for the things in the game that were so rare and unusual that STs had to police how many were allowed/in play or else there'd be 50 of them running around because they're the cool, new thing.
My stance: If you are incapable of making a Ventrue Camarilla member interesting, then you are not a good candidate for RU characters. You should not be allowed to supplement lack of creativity with RU.
Unfortunately, with online/LARP WoD players, the constant drive for interesting by character type decision is a known bad habit. Many players seem to try to make their characters stand out by being these creative sheet-level decisions and not due to character personality. IMO nWoD only made this worse by adding some 6+ levels of configuration complexity.
To steal a Monte Cook'ism...
oWoD: "I am a Ventrue Camarilla member who..."
nWoD: "I am a CLAN, BLOODLINE, 2ND BLOODLINE, SECT, SUBSECT who..."
Not that oWoD didn't have bloodlines and its own set of RU corner cases, but oWoD seemed to regard RU system-wise as flaggable, whereas nWoD seemed to embrace it.
Anyway, a peeve. Not making fun of anyone. It's just that every time I see "My character is a Kinfolk Mage Thinblood Half-Ghost Changing Breed Rabbit who is a member of Task Force Valkyrie and is 1/5th keuijin" I kinda go "Yanno, if this character were so interesting, they'd be just as interesting as a...Toreador. All that salad on the character sheet is neat, but IMO misses the point and further promotes WoD being about super weird and RU configurations."
@Seamus said in Anyone kind enough to help me with oWoD?:
@Ghost said in Anyone kind enough to help me with oWoD?:
I'll poke in here and note that whether or not Kinfolk are second class citizens isnt a standard.
It varies based on tribe, auspice, personality, etc.
Some tribes, garou, auspices might argue that the litany only requires them do certain things but doesn't inherently make them in charge. "Cleaving to the mortal world" doesn't mean to treat kinfolk like baby farms who dont count, but could also mean to cleave to their wisdom and respect them for their burden to be the parents of children who they will inevitably have to see go off to fight with a life expectancy of less than 10 years post-change.
W:tA, like all WoD, is subject to the whims and interpretation of the people who play it, but nowhere in the books does it state these things to be standards.
It is absolutely possible that a pack could bind around a Kinfolk as the heart and soul of their pack.
I imagine the Tribes most likely to treat Kinfolk as 2nd class to be: Get of Fenris, Shadow Lords, Red Talons, Silver Fangs, and maybe Uktena
But could I see Wendigo, Black Furies, Children of Gaia, and Glass Walkers honoring their kinfolk at higher levels? Totally.
Red Talons don't have human kinfolk, that survive...
Right, but even their lupine kinfolk are litter machines
I'll poke in here and note that whether or not Kinfolk are second class citizens isnt a standard.
It varies based on tribe, auspice, personality, etc.
Some tribes, garou, auspices might argue that the litany only requires them do certain things but doesn't inherently make them in charge. "Cleaving to the mortal world" doesn't mean to treat kinfolk like baby farms who dont count, but could also mean to cleave to their wisdom and respect them for their burden to be the parents of children who they will inevitably have to see go off to fight with a life expectancy of less than 10 years post-change.
W:tA, like all WoD, is subject to the whims and interpretation of the people who play it, but nowhere in the books does it state these things to be standards.
It is absolutely possible that a pack could bind around a Kinfolk as the heart and soul of their pack.
I imagine the Tribes most likely to treat Kinfolk as 2nd class to be: Get of Fenris, Shadow Lords, Red Talons, Silver Fangs, and maybe Uktena
But could I see Wendigo, Black Furies, Children of Gaia, and Glass Walkers honoring their kinfolk at higher levels? Totally.
@rebekahse My advice:
Playing a kinfolk isn't about being spectacular. It's about being able to go places Garou can't and also maintaining clarity that they lose in their battle with their own rage. Regardless of tribe, they're the ties that bind them to the world of the kine (mortals) and exist to remind them of their responsibilities to them.
Now, that doesn't involve turning into a giant war beast, but its pretty fucking important.
My advice is to make a person. A person who has just as much at stake as they do and only a fifth of the physical strength. What they do know is how to maneuver the mortal world, and in that they can provide human-level connections and real-world know-how.
So worry less about the sheet and less about making things rare or unusual, and instead put your energy into making a regular type person who happens to be caught up in werewolf drama that is designed to flow with the angsty psyche of the werewolves around them.
Those Garou spend so much time licking their wounds and doing wolfy stuff that they often forget to maintain the truck, cook a hot meal, weld security fences into place, etc. In a way, the Garou go off to fight and often kinfolk have to keep watch.
Hope this helps.
Good week.
Mandalorian tonight.
Witcher Friday.
Going to see Star Wars on Sunday.
@Cupcake Interesting to see Somerhalder play Human vs Vampire for a change lol
Why not just store the instruction string as a parameter in the command's code and then have the help command query the code for the parameter and print it out?
Edit. Derp. I read back. Looks like that was covered.
Hey. Christmas advertisement people?
It's JOO-Well-Ree, not JOO-Lurr-Eee
That is all. Peeve.
Oh. And someone remind me to go back in time to 2001 and remind George W that it's NUKE-Lee-Urr, not NUKE-Yuh-Lurr
Also, some new stuff I'm watching...
Expanse is good as it normally is. So good. Watchmen was amazing. I'm enjoying V-Wars on Netflix.
Yeah, according to Orlando Jones, the showrunner felt Mr. Nancy sent the wrong message to black America.
So this guy...
...said that. Allegedly.
Probably haven't heard the end of this one.
Dude looks like a former cast member of Kids Incorporated kicking off a reunion tour.
@Tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
@Ghost This isn't really new, it's been around since I was in high school, at the very least.
Counterpoint: It isnt new for us. TBH I dont know if teens play this like we did. So I do idly wonder that if I was playing this with my SO out and about that some kid might be like "omg that dude's a Nazi.
On a scale of 1 to 10 I worry about this at level 0.5, but it's late and I saw an article and it crossed my mind.