@Ganymede said in Searching for Star Wars RPI:
@Thenomain said in Searching for Star Wars RPI:
Checking the Three (or Four) Laws of Robotics, I don't see anything in there about a robot not being mean. Also, you break the 2nd Law pretty much constantly. Therefore, not only can you be mean, but you do not even follow Asimov's laws, QED.
No. You're wrong. The Russians said otherwise. I'm not taking any questions from you any more.
Holy shit, Vladimir Putin is the anti-Asimov!
@Ganymede said in Searching for Star Wars RPI:
@Thenomain said in Searching for Star Wars RPI:
You lie; @faraday is physically incapable of being mean.
As the only robot-lawyer here, I am the only person physically incapable of being mean, pursuant to Asimov's laws.
Checking the Three (or Four) Laws of Robotics, I don't see anything in there about a robot not being mean. Also, you break the 2nd Law pretty much constantly. Therefore, not only can you be mean, but you do not even follow Asimov's laws, QED.
@Ganymede said in Searching for Star Wars RPI:
@Thenomain said in Searching for Star Wars RPI:
This is a 100% valid way to do it. This is how we did it in WoD, and some people still do. There is nothing wrong with it, the question is always where to put the bulk of the work.
Will you make an Earthdawn chargen for me? @faraday is being mean.
You lie; @faraday is physically incapable of being mean.
@Jennkryst said in Searching for Star Wars RPI:
I feel chargen would be super easy if you don't code in all the prerequisites... just let the players fill everything in manually, and then staff combs it for accuracy after. It's not shadowrun or rifts, here.
This is a 100% valid way to do it. This is how we did it in WoD, and some people still do. There is nothing wrong with it, the question is always where to put the bulk of the work. On players? On staff? On code?
In my [incoherent mumbling] years of coding chargens, I can follow a fairly steady path of that. Game opens, players join, staff discovers that they have to either focus on players or on administration, staff asks code to take work off their plate.
This is the way it should go, IMO. But then I see this happening:
Staff takes on extra responsibilities via house rules, mini-games, and character actions; staff discovers that they have to either focus on players or on administration; staff asks code to take work off their plate. Repeat.
I can't blame anyone for doing this. People have ideas, people want their ideas to be fun and cool and add to the game. Since this is a hobby, people aren't thinking, "I'd better do some kind of analysis to see how this would affect things including my own time and the time of those around me."
I can't blame anyone for doing this.
But this is why occasionally, someone sits down and says, "You know, I know this. Let me create, from scratch, a system that will answer some of the most common problems that will come up if we get even moderately popular."
Many, many thanks and adorations to staff who are willing to deal with the problems of imperfect systems as they come up, and calm the player down when it doesn't give them precisely what was promised to them. Just as many thanks to the players who are okay with this.
I often re-read my posts for tone and intent. One time, I was revising a post of mine because I decided that I had missed the mark I was aiming toward, and someone got in a lather that I edited a post like I was now making them look like a jerk, though they never edited their post or explained their original meaning. I didn't think it was a big deal, but I was pretty relentlessly attacked on it to the point where I felt it was time to shut them down. It irked me seriously at the time, but eh, bad communications happen, we live and learn and do better next time.
On previous versions of Wora, someone almost always had the deleted post in their buffer so they could (and many times did) offer up the original. With the async nature of Soapbox's forum software, the best we can hope is that someone is responding as an edit (or, as Raptor used to do, copied over to a text file) so they can be called out on it.
Of course, all things being John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory, it's too easy to call someone out on something that, in the rest of society, is not that big a deal. The screen makes far too convenient a shield.
@VulgarKitten said in Taking your ball and going home...:
I'm just waiting for someone to make and delete a post in this thread.
Sadly, after a while the deleted post is actually deleted, and the joke of someone, probably @Arkandel, writing a post and deleting it will be lost unless someone makes a screenshot.
(Hint hint.)
@Catsmeow said in The Secret Life of (Your) Pets:
My sister had a cat named 'Cat'.
I was thinking about it, but then he'd need a golden belt-buckle that said "CAT" and several thousand outfits.
My cat is named "the cat". I don't know if it's me, who has named three cats in the past, but this cat doesn't seem to want or even need a name.
I would like to claim some credit with Soapbox and Wora, et al., as well, but the pattern I'm seeing is that this kind of staffer has never been to Soapbox. Your typical Wora dino has stopped playing and moved on, perhaps for the best. I think we're seeing a newer generation meshed with a generation of older players who are returning out of idle interest.
I see Soapbox showing some but not all of this, mostly in how it's no longer All World/Chronicles of Darkness Talk All The Time, which I also see as thank god. We now have a bit of L&L, a hint of Star Wars, occasional mention of Pern, and a healthy dose of Evennia and resurgence of Rhost as apparently Ashen has become utterly insane and entirely off his meds.
But in a good way.
... Honest.
@Faceless said in RL things I love:
@Ganymede said in RL things I love:
Still, I have a soft spot for Steak and Shake. Cheap-ass, decent burgers.
And shakes.
I am so spoiled. I have Jeni's, Graeter's, and Johnny Rocket's all within walking distance, and I think UDF makes better shakes than Steak & Shake. I do have two (two!) Five Guys in walking distance, depending on how much of a walk I want, and at least one coffee shop that epitomizes "coffee shop" (Stauf's).
Now you all know where I live.
Send flowers.
edit: That said, In & Out Burger is absolutely the best fast food burger I have had in my life, no question.
@Ganymede said in Dealing with Staff:
I shouldn't. So, I don't.
It's about treating staff like they're adults, and expecting them to act like adults.
It's also about knowing your options and their consequences. If a staffer is yelling at you or jerking you around, you need to know what you can do about this. Is there escalation possible? Do you need to learn how play in spite of that staffer? Do you want to play the martyr; on the game or on Soapbox?
You can't change the staffer; you might not even be able to change your situation. You can do the same negotiation that goes on in social circles daily.
Hey @Arkandel, I hope your playlist likes Star Wars RPG talk!
Because I don't think I've seen anyone even attempt any of the "Edge of the Empire" style Fantasy Flight RPGs. Which is too bad, because it seems needlessly complex. I mean kind of fun.
@Ganymede said in RL things I love:
@Thenomain said in RL things I love:
What? Five Guys here in Columbus are bland burgers at an insane price. It's like they want to be In & Out Burger but can't manage being as good, varied, or well-priced.
Over here in Dayton, the burgers are under $5. How this qualifies as being as expensive as a restaurant is beyond me.
If they were more tasty than a bit of wet cardboard, I would be okay with $5. Here they have the taste of tofu being made into a burger, like the only thing it was meant to do is carry the flavor of whatever else you heap on it. To me, what you put on a burger is meant to accent the burger or to complete it.
@Ganymede said in RL things I love:
@Arkandel said in RL things I love:
They're still a fast food chain, you're eating a fast food burger, yet it's priced as a restaurant one.
Not in Ohio, they aren't
What? Five Guys here in Columbus are bland burgers at an insane price. It's like they want to be In & Out Burger but can't manage being as good, varied, or well-priced.
Their fries are good, tho.
If I want a good fast-food burger around here, I end up at Johnny Rocket's. Sure it's not a fast-food place, but it's still a good burger.
@Ganymede said in MU Things I Love:
@Thenomain said in MU Things I Love:
):<
Sorry, chum. The difference between the needs of a Star Wars SAGA game and a WoD game are vast.
Wait, did you just call me chum? Who are you, Adam West?
@Ganymede said in MU Things I Love:
I haven't seen coding like this in over a decade, and it's fucking awesome.
):<
@Coin said in Dealing with Staff:
@Thenomain said in Dealing with Staff:
And Code Monkey like you.
A lot.
Everyone likes me, but no one is saving me from the fucking wolves. ;_____;
Fucking wolves? Incest is best.
@Ganymede said in Sensitive cultural/political/religious aspects of game themes.:
@Thenomain said in Sensitive cultural/political/religious aspects of game themes.:
Thank god we've changed.
We have?
Sure. Now it's sometimes your husband.
@Ganymede said in Sensitive cultural/political/religious aspects of game themes.:
In my opinion, as anecdotal as it is, there is no difference here. Club or home, it is still your property and you (the game owner) have the duty, responsibility, and privilege of setting the rules for staying therein.
But once you start inviting people into your home and letting them invite their friends and advertising on Craigslist that people can stop by your home, the amount of control you have is decreased, by social convention. The responsibility of a club owner for their guests is much higher than the responsibility they have to guests at their home.
Home owners don't have to worry about Yelp reviews. Club owners at least have to worry about the court of public opinion, which can undermine the goal of that club. They are in the public eye in how they deal with things they believe are issues.
As Mushers, we have lived through too much shitty staff behavior and too lax staff behavior about shitty players. It's easy for staff to weed out members of their club as a conceit, and not a service to it. But when it's your home? The circle of members is very personal and often private.
Of course, this wasn't always true. There was a time where if your wife wasn't a fantastic hostess, you wouldn't be allowed to network with the higher ups. Thank god we've changed.
Yes, but you can do the same without any special code. &attribute.strength: 3, &init.faraday.roll: 2. This isn't a tree, it's a structure convention. The Mushes can't really store in structures, really, which is why I don't get the Tree thing. I can think of some coding practices that would benefit from it, but Mux got rid of push and pop, so I don't think we're really using the binary tree method in softcode, are we?
This is the grumpy coder in me, and this is a great about what you can't live without, not what Theno doesn't get.
I can't live without regular expressions, unlimited data space, and unhindered and uncomplex search tools. Essentially, I can't live without databases.