People always get stuck on Aspects, while Aspects are bar none the single most compelling reason to play Fate.
My name is Cobalt and I take the aspect Artistic Firebug. I get to re-roll failed attempts that have to do with fire! I get bonus points when I succumb to my love of fire!
How is this not non-stop awesome? The rules are still written in a way that's not trivial to grasp, but this one, right there, is the key to almost all of them.
My trying to explain Fate to @Cobaltasaurus was amusing. That she now wants to run it is ironic.
@Ganymede said:
Haunted Memories: Wagner
The only staffer besides Troy (I can't remember her HM staff name) who I was prepared to gracefully accept a "you broke this oath" from.
Would negotiate with again. A+
I giggled my head off while putting in my SHH application. Partially because some of it is so silly, partially because so am I.
It looks like a URL segment (post title or category) starting with "advert" is possibly triggering some kind of anti-advertising system that is blanking out the contents. No idea which ones.
For example, a title of 'Advert*' is giving me the blank screen, but 'Adver-*' is not. @Glitch is not getting these pages blocked because he has no ad-blocker running in his web browser.
Solution? Don't Do That.
edit: I made the topic 'Advert-is-ments' again so people can test this out and report their findings here.
Okay, here's an experiment. I turned the normal hyphen (-) in the title to an en-dash (–) to see what happens.
edit 1: nope. trying periods (.) instead of dashes (-).
edit 2: nope, hmm.
edit 3: changing 'advert-is-ments' to 'adver-tis-ments' seems to fix this.
Sometimes I get blank posts on Safari until I re-load the page. Sometimes I need to wait a few seconds.
Where I'm misunderstanding?
@Luna said:
But really, it's a very good way to get killed by trying to merge onto the 70mph freeway going 40 and people from other states do it ALL THE TIME.
Emphasis mine. I think I'm less misunderstanding and you're more mis-stating.
My peeve is: At least get to the speed limit when you hit the freeway. This has nothing to do with speeding, culture, or Texas. Natives do this all the time.
I'd admit, not driving like the drivers around you is annoying. Around here, you go around 5-10 over the speed limit, but we know how to drive well enough that you don't run over other drivers. I've driven Chicago, Boston, Seattle, and even they know that. They might get ticked off, but they know enough to account for it. They know their culture. (edit: except for taxi drivers; I rage against taxi drivers)
Being ignorant to that seems like a very Texan thing to do.
Someone needs to explain to me why :shipit: is "shipit".
I think what Ice is saying is, "I'm leaving in relation to when I show up. Don't get upset by that."
I have no idea how "can you help me before you leave?" becomes "screw you for asking", but I imagine there's more to it than that.
Yeah, @JinShei, but you're using Fate Core, a fairly simple system that has some internal checks that prevents people from, e.g., putting everything at 5/Excellent. To be good at something, you have to give up something.
First, the people who cripple their socials and mentals for combat, then still play as if they have high social and mental stats
But what do you do about this? You are on the cusp of recommending open sheets, or sheet summaries. I'm all for a sheet summary being visible: This person has Very High physicals, this person has Low socials, et al., but a Mu* by necessity self-polices. Yet we have no self-policing tools. Why not?
The second is 'we need ridiculous levels of XP' because people want not just to be able to do things, but to be able to do all the things, and do all the things well.
This is half the reason you play an RPG. If the RPG didn't want you to do this, it wouldn't make it so easy. Having no advancement barriers means WoD encourages this.
Actually, this is not true. WoD has one advancement barrier: You get 1-3 XP per session, plus more if you were extremely active or created a certain amount of chaos (dramatic failures) or played up your character to the hilt (conditions, aspects, so on).
On average, WoD gives you 1-3 XP per session.
WoD used to have a second advancement barrier: Decreasing returns on investment. GMC removes this.
Again, what do we do? Almost all of this is cultural to Mu*ers. I think the most important thing is that we're aware of it, that we encourage the "character first" mentality you're espousing, Sess, and kindly dissuade the "game mechanics first". WoD is not designed for the latter. It says it's not designed for the latter. It's said it's not designed for the latter since the first printing of the first Vampire book.
Maybe it's just less fun to follow some of those rules.
@Bennie said:
@Thenomain agree to disagree.
I don't agree to disagree. I agree to points even if I disagree with the result. In your case. I find no benefit or truth in agreeing to disagree. I find your entire thesis to be off.
When people have things to do
Having something to engage your interest helps, but it isn't the cause. I've lacked things to do and refrained from PKing anyone. In fact, I've never PK'd anyone in my entire online-RP life.
Let me contrast @HelloRaptor, who has PK'd but it was always because of normal consequence or self-defense. That is, he was engaged but it happened anyway.
The problem is that people are jerks, not that jerks must be entertained else oh no! PKs!
I used to call this "The Technocracy Effect", mainly because Techno players wanted to play up the Supernatural Cops, not because they had to. Sure, they had nothing else from staff challenging them, but they sure as hell didn't have to go after PCs. It wasn't entirely antithematic, but it sure was a dick thing do to.
Rampant PVP has nothing to do with PrPs. It has to do with having poor impulse control.
@Bennie, I don't think so. You're right that we're a mesh of cultures, which is a good thing, but I come from a culture of pure dice and even I am pressed to put that 5 in that Medicine or hang on to 600 xp unspent (which I currently have on Reach).
Likewise, I don't think that there are "Pure RPers" or "Pure Rules Lawyer" in the WoD settings, and that you've given too little credit to the fact that games like WoD expect you to push toward a few stats at very high levels. There are few game systems that work this way, and none that we have explored the rules enough to exploit at this level.
I will agree with this, tho:
Where we seem to make our mistake is in foisting our preferences all over the game screen and screaming at anyone with a different vested interest.
That's certainly one mistake. Patience and understanding, people. Patience and understanding.
I think, @surreality (& others), my question in response to those is: Whose responsibility is it that your character be useful in a scene? A lot of people take it upon themselves to make sure that their character is useful for the game, though they still want to role-play a character with different traits.
In today's PrP-Driven scenarios, where is there a place for a dwarf who works at Baskin Robbins and takes care of his invalid mother? Where in WoD does it tell you that it's okay for your Eternal Spring 2 (Heal Everyone) to be powered by a mere Medicine 2? Would your average Mu*er go to you, or go to Tammy Twinkery who tho her character concept is "flower girl" has Medicine 5?
These are rough hypotheticals.
People are probably going rage against one side of this spectrum or another. Hell, I've seen @HelloRaptor argue the case for both sides.
I have no answer, but the waters are very muddy, and the games we play tend to force us to have the maximum stat for our power stat possible. Maybe if WoD wasn't designed to do that, or if we didn't have XP coming out of the ground in fountains.
Because we're tacky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(A good Weird Al parody.)
Oh god. The emoticons. Please kill it. Please.