Posts made by Tinuviel

@Kestrel said in Separating Art From Artist:

In terms of a RPer (and we're being pretentious here and referring to ourselves as artists) playing a character (and we're calling that art, too), at what point do you separate the person behind the keyboard from the character they're playing?

If it comes out of the character's mouth, it's the character until and unless I learn credible information that the player is a raging twat. End of.

@Kestrel said in Separating Art From Artist:

You happen to know OOCly that I, the player, am a racist-sexist-homophobic-whatever. My character on the other hand is super nice and cute and likeable and you really like my writing style. Can we RP?

No. If I have proof, I'll work my hardest to get rid of you.

@insomniac7809 said in Separating Art From Artist:

Stop whining about cancel culture, you fucking hothouse flowers. People are allowed to call a work a piece of shit. People are allowed to call out when a work is being racist. People are allowed to decide not to pay for something and to tell their friends not to pay for something, and even to let the distributors know why they aren't paying for something.

That's not Cancel Culture(tm). At least not as far as I understand it. Airing legitimate grievances is one thing. The lightspeed reaction of the internet declaring THIS PERSON IS NOW UNFIT FOR SOCIETY based on nothing other than someone said something to someone once a decade ago and that means they're horrible evil fascists is more what I'm railing against. The speed of outrage is ridiculous, and the drama always flies faster than the correction.

@Ghost said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Tinuviel said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Ghost said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Tinuviel It applied to the concept of separating the art from artist. That's the last I'm gonna say about it in this thread.

I should just type up an essay on it on livejournal and then post a tinyurl link to it if it comes up again, kinda like my whole SSH vs telnet thing.

<insert repeat of other threads in a pre-prepared format thank you by-eeee>

It's just going to be us shouting "fuck you, I'm right in this very particular and semantically specific way" back and forth at each other until the universe dies.

If humans could harness this scenario into a form of clean, renewable energy, our energy bills would be about $0.02 per month.

Perpetual Objection Machine.

@Ghost said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Tinuviel It applied to the concept of separating the art from artist. That's the last I'm gonna say about it in this thread.

I should just type up an essay on it on livejournal and then post a tinyurl link to it if it comes up again, kinda like my whole SSH vs telnet thing.

<insert repeat of other threads in a pre-prepared format thank you by-eeee>

It's just going to be us shouting "fuck you, I'm right in this very particular and semantically specific way" back and forth at each other until the universe dies.

@peasoupling said in The Work Thread:

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@GreenFlashlight said in The Work Thread:

Yeah, I won't take shots at anyone trying to help, but I'm really suspicious of how basically every story I hear about the Australian fires frames it in terms of animals dead and contains no mention at all of the effects on the indigenous population. It makes me think there's a horror going on there we're not being told about.

The only article I could find says they are pro fire.
Australia fires: Aboriginal planners say the bush 'needs to burn'

PS: The article says no such thing.

They're pro-fire in very specific and controlled circumstances.

Not pro-thisfuckingfire.

For the record, I would also like to state that I am also pro fire, as well as pro tool use, language, and ceremonial burial.

For the record, I would like to refine my statement to mean "using fire to burn down bushland in very specific and controlled circumstances." And I'm anti-ceremonial burial.

@Ghost said in Separating Art From Artist:

ETA: But those dudes asking for lolli scenes on PenDes and other games like that aren't some vision of Jeremy Irons or Poulter going "I was challenged by this role to the point that I sought therapy after writing this horrible, horrible role...". Nah, those guys are more like "let me do my thing".

Yeah. We've been through this before. Several times. It's old, now.

@peasoupling said in The Work Thread:

@Tyche said in The Work Thread:

@GreenFlashlight said in The Work Thread:

Yeah, I won't take shots at anyone trying to help, but I'm really suspicious of how basically every story I hear about the Australian fires frames it in terms of animals dead and contains no mention at all of the effects on the indigenous population. It makes me think there's a horror going on there we're not being told about.

The only article I could find says they are pro fire.
Australia fires: Aboriginal planners say the bush 'needs to burn'

PS: The article says no such thing.

They're pro-fire in very specific and controlled circumstances.

Not pro-thisfuckingfire.

@Ghost said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Kestrel said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Ghost: I 100% do not separate art from artist in the context of paedophilia. And I have been pretty vocal about it.

Right. There are absolutely people (like you) that are on the "never accept it" meal plan for that and I really like that about you.

Can separate the art from the artist and still think the art should be burned, man.

MSB is absolutely not the place to discuss the philosophical definitions of morality.

@Kestrel said in Separating Art From Artist:

There is no equally valid argument for genocide and other atrocious nonsense.

Valid according to whom?

There is no absolute morality, therefore it has to be subjective. Over the eons humanity has either known or learned that certain things are - for the vast majority - abominable. But heinous crimes happen for so-called moral reasons all of the time.

The mere fact that people disagree about morality and moral issues shows that it is not absolute.

ETA: I do not endorse, advocate, support, or recommend genocide, ethnocide, or any other crime against humanity.

@Auspice Assuming the nation, or the states/counties/whatever, has the infrastructure for everyone's vote to actually be counted.

@Auspice The easiest way to make more people vote is to ease accessibility to voting.

@Pandora Hey, I said I felt dirty. Not that I wouldn't take it.

@Pandora I feel dirty being upvoted in this thread, honestly.

@Pandora said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Tinuviel said in Separating Art From Artist:

anything useful has been beaten out of it with sticks

True, but historically, when has that stopped a conversation on MSB, ever.

Give it about an hour until someone scrolls through and starts replying before reading through to the end of the thread.

@Pandora said in Separating Art From Artist:

This is a strange derail, guys.

Eh, it's not really a derail. The main discussion is over, really. At least anything useful has been beaten out of it with sticks, then we rolled around in the entrails for a bit, and now we're sitting down talking about political things without actually talking about politics.

@Ghost said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Tinuviel said in Separating Art From Artist:

Choosing to officially affiliate with a particular party is mind-boggling to me. But then again so is 'deciding not to vote.'

Yeah. But that's our Stateside infancy in creating good government and elections.

You can register "Independent", but if you want to participate in the Primaries most states require you to be a member of the party running the primaries (think: Democrat-only election votes to help whittle down which of the 22 Democrats who are going up against Trump) or else you cant vote in the primaries at all.

Yeah, primaries are another weird thing to me - when compared to the Westminster system. Not that I'm saying bad or good, just weird.

@Pandora

Choosing to officially affiliate with a particular party is mind-boggling to me. But then again so is 'deciding not to vote.'

@Pandora said in Separating Art From Artist:

Who you voted for is not public unless you tell someone. Whether or not you voted, and whether you lean Democrat or Republican, can be part of the public record.

Is it leaning, or party registration? Apparently that's a bigger thing out there than I'm used to seeing.

@surreality said in Separating Art From Artist:

@Tinuviel Just one example of how ridiculous it is: https://qz.com/1449789/votewithme-app-shows-if-friends-and-family-voted/

Jesus Fucking Christ.