@Derp Well yes, if you're looking at it from a specific game or a specific MU-system, you can have all those kinds of rules as the code allows. I'm speaking in more general terms, since not all games and not all systems have those tools.
Posts made by Tinuviel
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RE: Armageddon MUD
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Derp I would say that if quid pro quo is offered (if you do this thing, you'll get perks on @Derp's game) or if they're explicitly using the fact that they are staff on your game... and some manner of proof is evident, it bears investigation regardless as to where it taking place. If not for moral reasons, then for reasons of simple optics and association.
ETA: I believe the same should apply to breaking any rule of one's game when acting as a representative or in obvious connection to the game. Sharing important character secrets (for games with explicit important secrets) on MSB, for example.
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Meg said in Armageddon MUD:
but is your job as a staffer to protect your players against the staffers you hired or the players you have on your game?
Well... no, no it isn't. The job of a game-runner is to run the game. Some percentage of that will be disciplinary in nature, but they have other responsibilities too. And lives outside of that. If one offered @faraday or @Derp proof that a staffer was engaging in horrid behaviour against players outside of their game, actual proof, then I'm sure they'd act.
My job isn't to protect my students, it's to be their teacher. Some percentage of that is to protect and discipline them, but not the majority. If students fight at school, then I act. If students fight outside of the school (such that my duty of care doesn't apply) I don't, it's beyond my remit. But I'd probably keep them apart.
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Roz said in Armageddon MUD:
@Tinuviel said in Armageddon MUD:
@Derp said in Armageddon MUD:
Here's the thing with that, and this will be an unpopular stance -- accusations are not evidence.
While I agree that this is true, we're talking about a job rather than a criminal prosecution.
I mean...in a criminal prosecution, witness testimony IS evidence.
Witness testimony isn't accusation, it's witness testimony.
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Derp said in Armageddon MUD:
Here's the thing with that, and this will be an unpopular stance -- accusations are not evidence.
While I agree that this is true, we're talking about a job rather than a criminal prosecution. If there are enough - whatever enough means - accusations of misconduct then perhaps it's worth considering letting the accused go. You're not locking them away, or revoking some freedom or right, you're firing them.
Though I am curious about what kinds of proactive steps you think one could take against random sexual harassment. How does one protect themselves from a normal conversation turning into one of sexual demand or manipulation, or indeed random sexually inappropriate messages? Sure, they can block the person after it happens, but that doesn't stop it from having happened.
ETA: I would also add that though many systems may be available to capture evidence, there are as many systems available to falsify that evidence. If you're going to rely on evidence alone, it will just be he said she said. Especially if the accusations stem from places outside of your control.
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RE: The Work Thread
@Ghost said in The Work Thread:
Average CISSP salary is 122,300.
If you're right in saying that more and more people will be going into security, will there be such a glut of people with this qualification that the salary will drop?
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Groth said in Armageddon MUD:
@Tinuviel said in Armageddon MUD:
@Pandora Discord is just a Chromium tab.
ETA: It can be a Chromium/other browser tab.
Using the desktop version of Discord, press ctrl+shift+i and see what happens.
Yes, we've both sufficiently proven that point.
ETA: Bah, misread. I don't use Discord anymore so I don't have it hanging about, so I'll just assume you're right.
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Pandora FOI request from the government department monitoring our every communication?
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Pandora Discord is just a Chromium tab.
ETA: It can be a Chromium/other browser tab.
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Pandora While true, you can edit the window itself to show whatever you want, then take a screenshot and offer that up as proof.
I'm not saying this did happen, but I'm agreeing that it could happen.
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RE: Armageddon MUD
@Derp said in Armageddon MUD:
It looks like, in this case, the accuser isn't coming out looking so clean.
There's three sides to every story. What he said, what she said, and what actually happened.
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RE: General MSB announcements
@Arkandel said in General MSB announcements:
As usual please let me know if anything broke terribly.
Things are different now and I want them to not be different.
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RE: The Work Thread
To continue my point, but branch out a little, that's one of the biggest problems I have with the education system I work under. We're told to teach, rather than educate, and we reward memory rather than comprehension and understanding.
If you comprehend a subject, you might not necessarily remember exact details of which battle was where at what time, but you know how to use resources effectively to look it up. There is absolutely no way a human being can remember all of human history, or all of computer science, or all of mathematics. But we can remember how to find things out, and that's far more important.
I'd much rather focus my time on teaching how to learn than what to learn.
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RE: The Work Thread
@Ghost said in The Work Thread:
I imagine most people in the IT world have about 30-45% of those "number and acronym salad" terms memorized and use other resources for the stuff they forget
Absolutely. I can't speak for high-end IT, but academics of all stripes use every available resource they have to avoid having to rely on their memory. Not that we don't memorise things, we just know that it's far better to remember how to find a whole bunch of things than remembering a single thing.
The skilful use of search engines should be an integral part of school computing exams.
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RE: How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep
@Lotherio I have to agree with @Pandora here. If I publicly end a conversation - of any type - and leave the channel, it's probably not the time for some random person to approach me privately about it.
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RE: The Work Thread
@Lisse24 But how will I know I'm doing well if I'm not constantly panicked and losing hair?!?!
That was a joke.
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RE: How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep
@Ganymede said in How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep:
Objection, your Honor: opposing counsel is making me look stupid with facts.
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RE: How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep
@Ganymede said in How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep:
@Tinuviel said in How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep:
This, I believe, is where you went wrong. The person you were paging had already taken action against the harasser, so it was quite evident that they were not okay but were also quite capable of handling things themselves.
How was GreenFlashlight to know this prior to paging that player?
Given how they phrased it, it appeared to have taken place on a public channel.
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RE: The Work Thread
Well since we've turned this into the teacher thread, for the moment... I need to be more organised. I set year long assignments for a few of my classes at the beginning of the year. Now I have to grade them all in a week to get the reports done in time because I'm an idiot.
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RE: How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep
@GreenFlashlight said in How to Approach (nor not) a Suspected Creep:
the person I was paging had just told the harasser to stop
This, I believe, is where you went wrong. The person you were paging had already taken action against the harasser, so it was quite evident that they were not okay but were also quite capable of handling things themselves.