Posts made by TNP

@Derp said in Ruiz:

But I’m also not an idiot, and people like TNP and Tez aren’t coming here to engage in good faith. They’re just coming here to fling shit because they can, and I have no intention of being so bound up in bureaucratic red tape that I just shrug and go ‘but what can you do? Rules.’

Yes, I have such a track record of posting merely to fling shit. To correct your mischaracterization, I did not 'come here'. In fact, I never left and would check the board every day. As a rule, I do not post unless I have something to say and that hadn't occurred here in quite some time. Which is unsurprising since this board is, for all intents and purposes, dead unless someone reading Brand Mu Day brings something over here to cause controversy.

It's a safe bet that this thread has more posts in it than those made in all other threads combined since The Great Banning. And on that note, I have nothing further to say so shall truly depart and let you all fade into irrelevancy, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

It's not an accusation if it's conjecture. Spoken like a true weasel. You all deserve each other.

Speaking as an atheist, it seems to me like the universe put this dog who needs a new home in your way. Pure chance? Of course it is. Unless you're not an atheist in which case you decide.

@Derp Nope, not that. But never mind. So totally not worth the effort when there's fun to be had.

@Ganymede In no way am I referring to the change in software or site address. I'm referring to the change in tone and rules you decided were necessary.

@Derp What Arkandel was referring to was. Which is what you were responding to. Which is obvious unless one chooses to deliberately obfuscate the broader picture by focusing only on the very last post made.

@Derp said in What Would it Take to Repair the Community?:

Let me answer, clearly.

Those people are no longer current users of this forum, and they can't "defend themselves" due to clear consequences from their own actions after warnings.

So broad, personal attacks are fine so long as the target is banned?

@reimesu Honestly, WORA was a shithole. Each incarnation after it got a little better. I'm sure we all remember HR leaving because the place got too nice. MSB a couple months ago was a pretty nice compromise. It still had too many personal attacks but that's how people - all people - argue. They always seem to devolve into ad hominem attacks and I doubt that will ever change.

MSB was just how many people liked it. I'll even say most based on the number of active posters there compared to here and the number of active threads as well. But that's neither here nor there.

@Derp said in What Would it Take to Repair the Community?:

Let's not pretend that some of the BMD users have no axe to grind.

Honest question, can you blame them? Our board - and by our I mean all of the community - had their board basically hijacked out from under us. It was decided pretty much unilaterally that MSB would be something it never had been in any of its past incarnations. I've been here for all of them going back tot he original WORA before Nymeria got Tasteless Descs shut down.

The Mu* equivalent is a staffer stealing the database and newpasswording the old guard and anyone who dared to speak up. That kind of thing was pretty unanimously condemned back in the day.

Had some people wanted a kinder, gentler board, they should have just started their own. So yeah, people are not happy and have an axe to grind. They'll get over it. Maybe sometime in 2024 unless this board dies before that.

if you (general you) have a problem with what some posters here are saying, just don't engage. Ignoring them won't possibly cause anyone to say anything worse about you than they already are.

@Derp To quote @Ghost, saying someone has engaged in bullying is not calling them a bully. Using the same reasoning, saying someone is being hypocritical is not calling them a hypocrite.

Please be consistent in your warnings even when they come from those engaging in sycophantic behavior.

@Derp said in What Would it Take to Repair the Community?:

This is less acceptable. What is the point of this? You aren't trying to say here, "some of the things you did contributed to the problems that we're currently facing, and you should consider how you're going to handle that going forward." This is just meant to browbeat and shame a person based on personal dislike for no other reason than to vent your spleen in an argument

Pointing out someone's hypocrisy is not browbeating.

@simplications said in What Would it Take to Repair the Community?:

Having not been a Hog Pit reader, my knowledge of what went on in there came from second-hand reports of people I knew or knew of getting dragged, Mean Girls style, over relatively petty shit that just always seemed like interpersonal issues, miscommunications, or whatever

So in other words, a lot of the second hand reports you heard were told to you by those being accused of something and then declaring their innocence, or that it was being taken out of context, or that it was all a misunderstanding, or 'they' were just over reacting. Totally understandable. The guilty never declare they didn't do it or are being framed and anyone you actually know and like couldn't possibly be guilty of something.

It's really very simple... This is the internet. Being anonymous is simple. If you fuck up and make yourself unwelcome, regret it, and change your behavior, NO ONE will ever know what you did in the past unless you admit it. Moving on is simple.

These assholes being preemptively banned have never done that. They repeat their behavior to the degree that who they are is obvious even when they try to pretend they're someone else. They've never reformed and just repeat their toxic, predatory, possibly illegal behavior.

The ones who grow up/change their ways? Simple pass as normal players.

@Ganymede said in What Would it Take to Repair the Community?:

I hope that we can be cordial and cooperate when matters greater than us arise -- for example, if Cullen / Azazello / Surtr / whomever shows their head on BMD, I hope that someone will alert us so we decide whether to follow suit here before shit gets real

But that would be bullying, according to some posters that seem to have the approbation of admin. And being a bully is bad while calling someone a bully as a personal attack doesn't seem to get even a raised eyebrow, let alone any warnings.

A long, long time ago in the same galaxy we're in now, I played on Crucible City. This was an original M&M 1E game and was probably one of my favorite Mu*s I've ever played on due to the player base and the staff.

The main plot runner was Magik and she had no qualms at all about having us lose if the situation warranted it. I loved losing, actually. It made the eventual success that much more fun and there was always an opportunity to get our revenge. It wasn't always the very next scene she ran; sometimes they were long term plots so could take a while. Good times.

@ganymede said in Review of Recent Bans:

@lordbelh said in Review of Recent Bans:

Making them have to come and ask to return is just petty, though.

No one is asking them to do this.

@ganymede said in Review of Recent Bans:

No member petitioned me to change my mind on the bans.

Bad decision. Aside from the couple people who specifically tried to get banned, they shouldn't stay in effect.

Not that it really matters. The trust in staff here has been destroyed and I doubt they'd return even if the ban was removed.

I haven't really weighed in on the whole kerfuffle except to say that it brought to mind 'In order to save the village, we had to destroy it'. I still get that impression. But since it began, I think something has crystallized about what exactly happened and why some people are reacting so strongly.

Once upon a time, the moderators of this board in all its various incarnations did so as custodians of the community. By which I mean that the board functioned basically as the community as a whole wanted it to be and the moderators used a light touch to keep it that way.

At some point, and this is just my impression, this became @Ganymede 's board and people could either like it or leave. I make no comment on whether that's a good or bad thing but it seems like the custodians have become the staff.

That's going to stick in some craws. And here we are.

Honestly, this whole thing feels like an 'In order to save the village, we had to destroy it.' situation. It's a shame really. Time will tell if it can heal.

@aria One of mine had hyperthyroidism and I got him the radioactive iodine treatment. He's fine now. Glad that's all it was as it's very treatable and, with treatment, not really a big deal.