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    • Arkandel
      Arkandel Admin last edited by

      I liked the trailer for Lucifer.

      I don't know if Neil Gaiman is actually involved in any capacity but that'd be nice, too.

      • He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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      • HelloRaptor
        HelloRaptor last edited by

        @Arkandel
        It's going to have Mazikeen, which is all I needed to hear. >_>

        Honestly when my wife told me about this a while back my initial response was "Hahaha what the fuck? That sounds dumb.", but after thinking about it, Lucifer running off to LA and deciding to spend some time working with the cops doesn't really strike me as any more or less weird than the other stuff he just up and decided to do in the comics.

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        • EmmahSue
          EmmahSue last edited by

          Have you seen the trailers for Minority Report (Fox) and The Frankenstein Code (Fox), @Arkandel? It's almost like Fox is once again greenlighting things we're going to love and then yank out from under us when we're ripe for the trolling.

          ES

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          • 2mspris
            2mspris last edited by

            Is it bad that I watched the trailer and my first thought was "Didn't @HelloRaptor play this as a character somewhere?"

            hides over here

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            • Scanner555
              Scanner555 last edited by

              Lucifer is being licensed from DC/Vertigo, but Gaiman's involvement ends there. I think it's supposed to be more based on the later Mike Carey comic rather than the stuff Lucifer did in Sandman.

              All right. We're gonna do this the scanner way. I'm gonna suck your brain dry! Everything you are is gonna become me.

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              • Glitch
                Glitch last edited by

                Frankenstein Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNq25SEUTPQ
                Minority Report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fLl-DMzxrk

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                  • HelloRaptor
                    HelloRaptor last edited by

                    What? No, this sounds perfect. I think I did play that character somewhere/anywhere/everywhere.

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                    • 2mspris
                      2mspris @HelloRaptor last edited by

                      @HelloRaptor So if it's good enough for you... πŸ˜‰

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                      • Bobotron
                        Bobotron @Glitch last edited by

                        @Glitch
                        Huh.

                        Both of those look pretty good. Could be good. Hopefully Fox doesn't screw them over. Of course, they kept Gotham going, and it had wobbly episodes, so...

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                        • Coin
                          Coin @Bobotron last edited by

                          @Bobotron said:

                          Huh.

                          Both of those look pretty good. Could be good. Hopefully Fox doesn't screw them over. Of course, they kept Gotham going, and it had wobbly episodes, so...

                          Yeah. But they skewered Firefly and Dollhouse, among a bunch of others (I can only remember the Whedon ones... damn Whedon).

                          "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                          • Bobotron
                            Bobotron @Coin last edited by

                            @Coin
                            Mostly because Fox carries ratings internally in a different manner than other networks, IIRC. There are particular target demographics and particular ratings that Fox looks at for specific nights, and neither of those shows met those needs.

                            With the glut of other sci-fi shows on broadcast TV, these have a much better chance of working out in the long run.

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                            • Thenomain
                              Thenomain last edited by

                              I heard from a guy who knew a guy that they canned Firefly because someone wanted to have John Doe. It requires some manual dexterity with Occams Razer, but I can believe this a bit more than it failed internal metrics. Did you SEE John Doe?

                              β€œIf you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
                              ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

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                              • Three-Eyed Crow
                                Three-Eyed Crow Banned @Coin last edited by Three-Eyed Crow

                                @Coin said:

                                Yeah. But they skewered Firefly and Dollhouse, among a bunch of others (I can only remember the Whedon ones... damn Whedon).

                                "Dollhouse" got a second season. It got a second season largely because "Firefly" had been so mistreated by the network and some people there who had relationships with Joss Whedon either felt bad or did not want to get more shit for essentially repeating that. It was promoted decently and while I'm not sure whether or not the episodes were aired in order (FOX is bad about that even with shows they're high on), I've rewatched the first season and the problems with getting people in on it were not FOX's fault. It got better, but that cancellation of that one isn't something I blame the network for. The ratings are here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dollhouse_episodes and even in today's decimated TV numbers landscape, this wouldn't have been sustainable.

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                                • Arkandel
                                  Arkandel Admin @Thenomain last edited by

                                  The hell is John Doe?

                                  But I wouldn't be surprised to find out Whedon is difficult to deal with if you're a producer or some such (as opposed to being an actor working with him, for example). The guy is brilliant, and aside from his movies and TV shows he wrote the definitive X-Men comic-book run as far as I'm concerned, but there's a non-zero chance managerial staff might find it hard to communicate with him properly.

                                  On the other hand he's a huge name now, and has made metric tons of money, so he can shoot whatever films he likes for the foreseeable future.

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                                  • The Tree of Woe
                                    The Tree of Woe last edited by The Tree of Woe

                                    Last night's The Flash ended with, as the Narrator of Townsville would put it, "A good old-fashioned super hero super villain super fight." Firestorm, the Flash and Green Arrow vs. Reverse Flash.

                                    DC's really turning the dial on its TV stuff up to 11.

                                    β€œReal magic can never be made by offering someone else's liver. You must tear out your own, and not expect to get it back.”
                                    ― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

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                                    • Miss Demeanor
                                      Miss Demeanor last edited by

                                      I think its nothing short of a stroke of genius to have DC 'overtaking' tv while Marvel is dominating at the theater. DC's comics are better set to a tv show, anyhow. There's more character development, interactions, schemings, etc. that go in the DC Universe with a yearly (season) Big Badass Fight ending things for that round. Whereas Marvel definitely has more the feel of some great big thing that happens every so often (2-3 times a year), with allusions to things that have occurred offscreen in the interim. DC made the right choice in their medium.

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                                      • Ganymede
                                        Ganymede Admin @Miss Demeanor last edited by

                                        @Miss-Demeanor said:

                                        DC made the right choice in their medium.

                                        Well, anything is better than letting Zack Snyder direct another movie.

                                        β€œIt is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.

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                                        • Arkandel
                                          Arkandel Admin @Miss Demeanor last edited by Arkandel

                                          @Miss-Demeanor said:

                                          I think its nothing short of a stroke of genius to have DC 'overtaking' tv while Marvel is dominating at the theater. DC's comics are better set to a tv show, anyhow.

                                          Not if you count Daredevil in the mix. IMHO it stands head and shoulders over any other comic-book based TV series - and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. at its peak is better than either Flash or Arrow (although Flash is probably better in terms of consistency).

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                                          • 2mspris
                                            2mspris last edited by

                                            I'm way more fond of Daredevil & Agent Carter than Flash and Arrow. Though I've heard good things about Gotham, I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it yet.

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