Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.

[surreality]

@tinuviel Violating someone's corpse for the purpose of harassing someone on the internet is going much further than finding pre-existing content for that purpose.

They're both gross.

One is far more dangerously insane and threatening than the other, and should be regarded accordingly.

[Tinuviel]

@surreality Yes. But I was saying that your reading of what was said didn't seem to fit the context.

[surreality]

@tinuviel I was unclear if:

@cupcake said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

It took a girl's dead body being violated for someone to say "oh hey, maybe we're taking this too far."

meant this illegal act occurred for that specific purpose.

So I asked, because if this was the case, it would be orders of magnitude more alarming than someone already behaving in a horrible way.

WTF, dude.

[Tinuviel]

@cobaltasaurus said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@ganymede Let’s see... I got linked to 2girls1cup, tubgirl*, Mr. Hands**, goatse, and a dead body being violated

Context.

[surreality]

@tinuviel And the subsequent comment, which I quoted and asked about, sounded like the violation of a body may occurred for the purpose of harassing someone.

Which is ten miles more extreme than 'a shitty person found pre-existing disgusting things on the internet to post to someone's page'.

[Cupcake]

@surreality said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@tinuviel And the subsequent comment, which I quoted and asked about, sounded like the violation of a body may occurred for the purpose of harassing someone.

Which is ten miles more extreme than 'a shitty person found pre-existing disgusting things on the internet to post to someone's page'.

It's still shitty, and speaks to the standards of what going to far on WORA being shitty.

[FirePuff]

@surreality said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

meant this illegal act occurred for that specific purpose.

Whether it was meant for the purpose of harassing that specific person or not, it was still captured on video and uploaded to the internet for sharing for other means, which just piles more sick right onto the already nasty and disrespectful action itself.

[surreality]

@cupcake @FirePuff I'm not disagreeing with you about that. It's gross, not cool, and is not being diminished or defended. Duh.

It is, however, very frightening to think we might have someone in this community who might, in fact, go out and commit necrophilia for the express purpose of harassing someone they did not like on a game, and if it sounds like that may have been the case, yeah, I'm going to want to know about that immediately.

And I don't see why I'm getting my shit jumped for asking for that clarification.

We live in an era where SWATting is a thing. That someone in this community may have not just crossed the 'disgusting posts on the internet for harassment' line, but the 'engaged in violent threatening real world flesh and blood behavior' line as well, is something I would want to know about.

[Tinuviel]

@surreality You weren't getting your shit jumped. "That's an interesting way of reading" is hardly jumping on one's shit.

[Cupcake]

@surreality It was genuinely not my intention to make you feel like you were being attacked. I apologize for that.

[surreality]

@tinuviel Snarky-ass bullshit outside the pit for asking a question in a respectful manner looks like it from where I sit.

@Cupcake Thank you. It was -- I think understandably -- very disturbing to think this may have occurred, which is why I asked.

[FirePuff]

@surreality

@surreality said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@cupcake @FirePuff I'm not disagreeing with you about that. It's gross, not cool, and is not being diminished or defended. Duh.

It is, however, very frightening to think we might have someone in this community who might, in fact, go out and commit necrophilia for the express purpose of harassing someone they did not like on a game, and if it sounds like that may have been the case, yeah, I'm going to want to know about that immediately.

And I don't see why I'm getting my shit jumped for asking for that clarification.

We live in an era where SWATting is a thing. That someone in this community may have not just crossed the 'disgusting posts on the internet for harassment' line, but the 'engaged in violent threatening real world flesh and blood behavior' line as well, is something I would want to know about.

@cupcake said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@surreality It was genuinely not my intention to make you feel like you were being attacked. I apologize for that.

Same here. I really didn't mean it in that light, and I apologize if it read that way.

[Tinuviel]

@surreality Snarky? Goodness, if you think that's snark you're in for an awful shock.

[Ganymede]

@surreality said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

It is, however, very frightening to think we might have someone in this community who might, in fact, go out and commit necrophilia for the express purpose of harassing someone they did not like on a game, and if it sounds like that may have been the case, yeah, I'm going to want to know about that immediately.

To be fair to anyone who thinks that your interpretation is a bit bizarre, I'll be the first to say that early incarnations of this place did have posters that conceivably may have violated a corpse to make material to post up there.

[Derp]

@ganymede said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@surreality said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

It is, however, very frightening to think we might have someone in this community who might, in fact, go out and commit necrophilia for the express purpose of harassing someone they did not like on a game, and if it sounds like that may have been the case, yeah, I'm going to want to know about that immediately.

To be fair to anyone who thinks that your interpretation is a bit bizarre, I'll be the first to say that early incarnations of this place did have posters that conceivably may have violated a corpse to make material to post up there.

On the one hand... ew.

On the other... job security...

[surreality]

@tinuviel Yeah, because I'm new here or something.

See Gany's response below yours.

You acted like a little shit for kicks, in a place not designed for it, and assumed a whole fuck of a lot instead of reading.

'It took a girl's dead body being violated' suggests this occurred for this purpose.

Not 'it took someone posting pictures of'.
Not 'it took someone posting a link to'.
Not 'it took someone uploading content of'.

'It took a dead girl's body being violated'.

I stand by it being entirely reasonable to ask for clarification on that point, regardless of anyone's awareness or not of what the WORA was like in ye olden days.

[insomniac7809]

@surreality So my peeve is more people having your peeve.

'cause, I mean... were there other people who, before we could instantly chat with friends, look up facts, argue with strangers, distract ourselves with amusing bullshit, and communicate with loved ones at any point from any point literally at any time....

Were other people on their commute or going out on errands living fully in every moment, taking the time to appreciate the sublime beauty of the world we live in, and making deep, heartfelt connections with the random strangers crossing their paths?

Because I mostly remember either staring at a book instead of a smartphone, or just being really really really bored all the time.

[surreality]

@insomniac7809 Honestly? I'm a bad one to ask, maybe. I grew up an only child in a neighborhood more or less filled with retirees. I had to learn to entertain myself really early on in life.

[Cobalt]

@surreality As far as I know it was found images, not taken by that poster— but I don’t remember well because I think I WTF’d off the forum for a while. And yeah it was posted to Seiche’s LJ too.

[surreality]

@cobaltasaurus Yeah... that is seriously not at all cool. That kind of crap was just kicking off when I noped out of there due to Spider*, so I missed a lot. (I missed a lot of Bane, too.)

From the way people have described things, in that 'nope, not around' period, things got much more RL-harassment focused, which is why I really did have cause for concern.

Since there's all manner of organized harassment campaigns actually going around in various communities? Nnngh. We have groups of tweens trying to convince classmates to kill themselves on social media, people being paid to send SWAT teams to somebody's house, rape and death threats over enough of the internet on the daily over literally anything, it's sadly not as much of a stretch as I genuinely wish it was.

*Half the board hated me for letting her stay. Half the board hated me for 'crushing her dreams of home ownership' (see Spider thread). So it was just time to nope the hell out of Dodge for a time; nothing good could possibly come from staying around.