Wild Cards

Lotherio

So, next month Wild Cards is like official Marvel now? I don't know how to take this news. I like the stories, would be good to see some in graphic format. It'll probably mostly be stories the readers of the series are already familiar with, to start at least.

For me thoguh, I am wondering how this play's into the Mu's now. I've always wanted to see a Wild Cards Mu*, or something based on the idea - an alternative sort of year 0/ year1 telling of comics from some trigger event that turns folks into powered people (I tried it but failed at it).

Does this mean in themes that focus on marvel or marvel/dc crossover areas, we'll get some of the Wild Cards showing up now as PCs; Jetboy or the Great and Powerful Turtle. New takes on old paragon ideas that did will in the literary medium? The Jokers could be new interesting twists, no powers and a curse and folks playing off that somehow. I'm not sure how I feel about it but I've never been into the places that include any canon source from DC/Marval and images to other comics and manga brands.

On the side, I am upset cause now George RR is spending more time away from finishing Winds of Winter; one more thing to keep his attention from doing his writing assignment!

reimesu

@lotherio I always enjoyed how Wild Cards started because the authors were playing a superhero TT. They spent so much time at it that they realized they were losing money, turned it into a book series that was so poplar that GURPS turned it into two supplement books, (one was Wild Cards, the other was Aces Abroad.)

But I'm hoping the show doesn't suck.

Lotherio

@reimesu I have hopes for the new comic and the show. The show is in who knows where land. Hulu to Peacock. I think they're uncertain how this will play out and how marketable things will be after any success in the comic and the new show. But it gets complicated (which is me saying I don't know how it plays out), between Disney and Universal (NBC Universal parent over Universal, peacock now is doing the series instead Hulu). A big thing is bigger theme area of parks, Disney has Marvel but Universal has Hulk rights and the Marvel area in their theme park. That's long term looking at it, but seems a way to divvy out comic areas. Similar to Percy Jackson being done on Sidney know, can be a 'modern' magic area compared to Hogwarts area at Universal.

Long story short, I think it could be a good series and comic for folks unfamiliar with the books and could become something 'new' in some ways. Quietly hopeful - for both to do well and maybe a new comics Mu* similar in concept to Wild Cards to come out at some point.

Runescryer

@lotherio There's been a couple of comics adaptations of Wlid Cards, including 1 or 2 from Marvel before. I don't think it's going to be an 'official' part of the Marvel Universe with a universe number and all that. Sort of like how Star Wars is back at Marvel again without being an official universe.

I'd like to see a similar concept Year Zero game too, but I think it's the singular origin that sort of turns potential players away, in addition to the whole 'OC only' nature.

Lotherio

@runescryer The past Marvel one was 'off brand'? Like Epic? I could be mis-speaking; like Scion is Toyota. This Wild Cards will come directly from Marvel. I am glad its not official Marvel Universe, more hopeful that some new comics sell well enough to do more than an adaptation of the first book. Along with the series. But like I said, I don't want to see original Wild Cards chars in like mixed universe games.

I think you're right on the original year zero game, a lot of folks see it as OC only, which it would be in a manner.

Runescryer

@lotherio And there's nothing preventing players from creating characters inspired by the 'big name' FCs. There's a sense that creating such 'homage' characters means that they're lesser or inferior to the real thing. Which is sort of ridiculous, to me, since the Big Two crib off each other all the time.

Lotherio

@runescryer said in Wild Cards:

I think it's the singular origin that sort of turns potential players away, in addition to the whole 'OC only' nature.

I had time to chew on this a little. I think you're right with the singular origin part. The OC less so. It may be less singular origin versus the 'complexity' of understanding the theme. A few years back I threw together Coral Springs as just an OC version of Sky High. Literally it was nearly the same, except of in the sky, it was in the water. Added in a couple of 'Houses' for players to be in while at school. It seemed to do pretty well and folks seemed to have fun doing new spins on given tropes/paragons in a new way. It fail short for some cause it was High School and folks were a little burned out on that around the time Coral Springs launched.

I think there is room for an OC game, but like you pointed out, the singular origin may turn folks away.

Runescryer

@lotherio X-Men only games can get away with single origins, because of the IP popularity. But it's harder to bring players on outside of that exception.

And with the anti-OC sentiment thing...sure, there's lots of players willing to go OC, but the majority of supers players won't consider it. You hzvd to accept that you're not going to have a massive player-base, comparatively, to other games. And RP and longevity are the keys to turning an OC game into a success.

Misadventure

My answer is have the setting, in terms of social traits and the health of a city/country, be affected by the actions of the characters. They may not be a social movement, but as stars of the show, they at the least reflect what is shifting and what isn't in society. Find a way to reward scenes and story arcs that play into that.

But I always say that.

Lotherio

@misadventure That is a very good idea for a year one setting based on something like Wild Cards. The setting and area measured in social and health traits of sorts. It would give a feel of the general population in response to supers and play towards the gritty. It could incorporate the Wild Cards and the gritty sorts that followed like Watchmen, Jupiter's Legacy, the Boys, that TV comic fans are familiar with. Making me wish I had to time to work on a place. @Runescryer is right, would be smaller player base than the larger open world sorts of places that get better draws.

Runescryer

@lotherio And smaller isn't really a bad thing, IMO. I'll take quality of a player-base over quantity every time.