A new Game of Thrones MUSH
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Or something like that...I know I have proposed this before but I am reviving it again.
I do not have the coding talents nor the time to take the effort to design a grid but the game can certainly be played as a sandbox elsewhere (like MUS*H). With that in mind throw me your setting ideas...
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I woudn't mind a GoT mush that focused on some other not terribly yet visited in the GoT verse. A less established part of Esos or something of that ilk. That way, the goings on, in Westeros can shape the game but you're not yoked to events there specifically.
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If you want to avoid courtly politics and focus more on adventure and action, perhaps moving the location to the wall and north of it. You will have those that take the black, the multiple wildling factions, and most likely staff controlled other-worldly creatures. The only 'politics' would be between the wildling clans and possibly within the Night's Watch.
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@KDraygo said:
If you want to avoid courtly politics and focus more on adventure and action, perhaps moving the location to the wall and north of it. You will have those that take the black, the multiple wildling factions, and most likely staff controlled other-worldly creatures. The only 'politics' would be between the wildling clans and possibly within the Night's Watch.
Women are not allowed into the Watch as far as I remember. So, all women should play wildlings or men?
But yeah, I would love to play such a game and I do like Esos idea.:)
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No.
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@JustNobody That is a good point, didn't consider that.
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In "The Realms Lustful" thread, players of a GoT style LordsAndLadies game are currently arguing over what Lust means and whether it means people bone ICly.
They're your core player base.
You have been warned.
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@KDraygo
Is there precedent for like, diplomatics with the Wildlings? Or if you could make there be precedent, perhaps...The Wall, plus a newly-built 'fortified town' wherein the kingdom is trying to make diplomatic relations with the wildlings, and as such male and female nobles as well as citizens are there?
I dunno. Seems like when the monsters attack they'd have no reason to hang out and would fuck off back to the mainland.
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@Bobotron Politics is within each other for the Wildlings, from what I have read, there are many different tribes and it took Mance decades to get them to work together. So there could be infighting depending on the timeline.
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@Ghost said:
In "The Realms Lustful" thread, players of a GoT style LordsAndLadies game are currently arguing over what Lust means and whether it means people bone ICly.
They're your core player base.
You have been warned.
I trust @BigDaddyAmin.
He will make a Lords and Ladies game that doesn't fucking suck.
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I can't wait for BDA to launch this. I am gonna roll a Priestess from GRRM'S Japan, the island of Leng.
Her favorite activities? Eating large amounts of food, drinking green tea while snacking on rice crackers, and banishing evildoers to the Land of Wind And Ghosts.
The last part is a joke, since BDA told me a while ago he's not interested in grimdarque combat games. I can dig that, since he's being honest about it.
"I am disrespectful to evil spirits! Can't you see that I am serious!?
"This is no place for lazy people! Join me or die! Can you do any less?"
And, like real Japanese women, she will be really loud, aggressive, yet helpful, hospitable, and kind in a pinch, prone to smacking people on the back of their head, and a heavy drinker - but, of course, when she drinks heavily, her entire face turns red.
http://www.teawithmd.com/2014/12/the-truth-about-alcohol-flushing-or-asian-glow/
Delicate Asian flower, my left buttock.
I have no explanation as to why her clothing covers her arms, but not her armpits. Perhaps that will be one of the mysteries of BDA's game.
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I am kind of inclined to propose Essos. Set it in Lys. Then everyone can be a platinum haired princess. Though Cirno might be onto something. Asshai is essentially Westeros China.
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I think the problem is that when I think of a true Lord and Ladies style MU*, I think of Hilary Mantel's "Wolf Hall" where commoners can actually rise up, and make a difference (see Thomas Cromwell).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wvd7c_b2pA
That is political lord and lady drama.
With Blood of Dragons and fucking Reyna, all you got was this, over and over:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3811GYlfr0A
Tourney/Wedding Feast/Dance Flirt Ye Olde Medieval Court gets boring.
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@BigDaddyAmin said:
I am kind of inclined to propose Essos. Set it in Lys. Then everyone can be a platinum haired princess. Though Cirno might be onto something. Asshai is essentially Westeros China.
And Yi Ti/Leng is DAI-NIPPON-TEIKOKU, desu ne?
Although I hope it isn't actually set in GRRM!Japan or GRRM!China, just so that I can have fun with my GRRM!Japanese Priestess calling everyone stupid foreigners (all in good fun, of course).
I don't mind if it is actually set there, though. That would be sugoi kakkoii, Onii-chan!
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@BigDaddyAmin said:
I think the problem is that when I think of a true Lord and Ladies style MU*, I think of Hilary Mantel's "Wolf Hall" where commoners can actually rise up, and make a difference (see Thomas Cromwell).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wvd7c_b2pA
That is political lord and lady drama.
With Blood of Dragons and fucking Reyna, all you got was this, over and over:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3811GYlfr0A
Tourney/Wedding Feast/Dance Flirt Ye Olde Medieval Court gets boring.
I suggest you also have Mysteries for players to solve, as in the books.
My GRRM!Japanese priestess would be a natural lock for this, since she would be routinely telling everyone stories about this haunted castle, or that haunted forest, etc etc,.
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The trouble with LordsAndLadies mushes is this: If things happen, then they're bad, bad things that affect everyone.
Sure, there's beheading/punishing criminals and the occasional raider/highwayman to ride down, but those will be NPCs. What about the PCs? You've got a bunch of lords, ladies, men-at-arms, soldiers, shitbags, handmaidens, etc, and they're ALL from different houses. So the logical idea is to have marriages, stack them against each other, cause some drama, poison some wine, have a few rapes, set a few fires, run down some smallfolk with horses, right? Because that's what the nobles in GoT do. They troll each other at the expense of their people. They meddle. They cause problems. They marry male and female members of household to people who very well may end up abusing them for politics.
It's like Pro Wrestling with swords, lances, and seduction.
But the general RPer doesn't want to have their sexy little relationships or noble lives fucked with, so the drama tends to be like a 6th grade dance where most of the boys and girls are on opposite sides of the gymnasium daring each other to ask this girl or this boy to dance, but nothing really happens, and they leave it to staff to create drama for them to all participate with each other in as a team. The players that try to start shit mostly get avoided and viewed as dangerous to RP with, and most of the players either won't cause drama unless they're sure they will get away with it OR don't do it to avoid OOCSplosion.
So tourneys. And Banquets. And scenes in the yard. And sex.
The noble houses circle each other like two teenaged boys in a fight, too afraid to commit to throwing a punch, until the teacher across the hall yells WHATS GOING ON OUT THERE and everyone scatters to rumor-douchebag about how one or the other kid was being a pussy.
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@Ghost said:
But the general RPer doesn't want to have their sexy little relationships or noble lives fucked with.
I don't understand this bullshit, because if I want to have teh TS, I can go to Shang.
I go to other games to do Serious Business. Hence why I am not inclined to disobey games that ban TS. It's like, why do that when there's tons of TS games?
There's a goddamn My Little Pony TS game.
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@Ghost said:
The trouble with LordsAndLadies mushes is this: If things happen, then they're bad, bad things that affect everyone.
This is kind of why I like the North (or maybe one of the Free Cities) as a setting. It gets away from the parts of the books that are more straight Lords n Ladies-y and, depending on how you structure the theme, could give you more PvE things to struggle against. It's also less feudal politics, but I don't think most players do that well enough for me to miss it, frankly.
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@Three-Eyed-Crow I base any GoT TT game I run in the North, Free Cities, or Dorne because of this.
@Cirno I roleplay to have my character's life fucked with. If I wanted a story where everything my character wants happens how my character wants, then I'll sit alone in the dark and write it myself. I depend on other players/staff to complicate my shit and fuck with my PC's chi.
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To me the unsolvable problem with GoT as a MU* (same as many fantasy worlds) is always population fragmentation.
Unless you're willing to handwave the logistics of getting from A to B (which is doable but it'd destroy my suspension of disbelief in the long run) or to sacrifice entire chunks of cool places people can play at, you're going to end up with some of your players in King's Landing, others at the Wall, etc.
And that sucks.