@Pandora said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
A game is 'doing it right' when it doesn't wind up on WORA/MSB. That said, I think games that voluntarily advertise on MSB are very brave and open-minded, though they should keep in mind that they'll be attracting a specific sort of crowd that is heavily biased toward 'The Way We Do Things Just Because It's How We Do It'. I enjoy MSB for what it is and for reasons I mentioned earlier in the thread. But I'd never voluntarily bring any game I play to anyone's attention here; my internet life has been very peaceful this year since the MU I play primarily isn't on MSB and most people there either don't know what MSB is or are scandalized/terrified by what they read here.
It's good to be brave and open-minded.
Like many, I oppose the idea that this board is dominated by WoD games. This sounds hypocritical coming from me, I guess, because it is true that the vast majority of my experiences come from those games. That said, any comment I make to which I would attach experience as my basis of understanding is invariably going to come from a WoD game. That doesn't mean my opinion is any less apt from that basis, but I don't think it's entirely fair to say that I and folks like me are knowingly trying to dominate the conversation and steer it towards WoD games (and I know that's not what you intended to say).
But, I get what you're hinting at, and I mostly agree. There are a lot of games out there that are doing just fine. Some advertise here, some don't. And I wish they would because I am open to new experiences.
SW: Fires of Hope looks nifty. I made a PC there, but I haven't gotten all the way through the CGen process. I also ginned up a PC on End of Days, but I too have not completed the process. SW: Dawn of Defiance was a lot of fun, but it wasn't for my entire crew. And, to be frank, I did have fun at Kushiel's Debut, Arx, and other games that I've played on.
In my opinion, many game designers and operators don't want their work bashed on. So, they've concluded that our Hive-Mind will poo-poo anyone that comes here. This is untrue. I can understand why anyone wouldn't want bad publicity, but a lot of games get good publicity here too. And just because an incident arises that could make a game look bad does not mean that others won't or can't see past the bullshit.