Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.
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@Derp seconding this! Especially if it is a large company! Even for my peon job I have, it took 3 weeks after the interview to get the offer, because the hr/recruiter person was out on unexpected illness. (The decision for hire ahd all interviewing was local and they submitted it like within hours of my interview). I'd already started more interviews elsewhere and had written it off but the local manager called me at the 2 week mark and asked me to please hold on if I was still interested. He was breaking policy to do so but unbeknownst to me he was moving and on his way out so he didn't give a crap and wanted me to be there because I was a great fit for the branch, and he was right!)
Some companies are def better than others when it comes to hiring process! From interview to actual first day of work for me was 6 weeks because of more out of state back and forth background check and other internal stuff waiting on HR! So I wouldn't put yourself out after 1 week esp during flu season. Will keep my fingers crossed.
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I feel like it's kinda unlikely at this point.
The process, as I was told, is:
-> resume -> phone interview -> test -> Hangouts (video) interview -> in-person interviewDuring the phone interview, I was told if the person who reviews the test likes it, I'd hear back within a day or two of submitting it to schedule the Hangouts (video). I submitted that on Monday. It's Friday.
MAYBE something did come up, but 'a day or two.' Ehhhh.
I mean, this is for a full-time/permanent technical writing position that pays surprisingly well at a company has really great benefits and is highly-rated across the board on a number of sites. I am sure there's tons of competition (writing jobs are some of the first to go these days when companies cut costs).
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I think the worst one of those that I ever dealt with was at a local university where I had applied for a position that is so, so, soooooooooo much closer to my house than the companies I've worked at for the last 9 years.
They had a phone interview, an in person interview with the direct manager, a skills test, interviews with several other managers in the department, and in my case -- as I was told it was down to me and one other candidate -- interviews with the next two reporting chains up from the position. All in all? I lost three days of work, without pay, and had it confirmed from multiple people that I would be hearing back from them within the week.
I think I called two or three times over the next month because I've worked at universities before and they're notoriously slow, so I didn't give up hope. (At one ivy league, I applied in September and started in January, FFS.) By the time I received a "thanks but no thanks" from the hiring manager, I'd already gotten the form rejection letter from their HR department -- three weeks earlier. It took her two and a half months to reply with an 'encouraging' note about how great a candidate I was and she'd keep me in mind for future positions, which at that point is really just insulting.
Apparently, they have a tendency to wait until the new hire has settled in for a few weeks before bothering to cut the other candidates loose.
Fun Fact: Their graduate school programs have tried to recruit me HARD for a couple of different Master's degrees since, especially after finding out that I tend to work for very large corporations that end up partnering with local schools for various MBA and MS programs and spend a lot of money to do it. Every time they call, I politely inform their recruiters that I'm not willing to attend a university that treats their prospective employees so poorly, shows so little professionalism, and give them that hiring manager's name.
https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
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@Selira said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
Perhaps educate yourself before going on yet another one of your ill-informed owning the libs rants.
I've noticed that a few people just ignore the emoticons in a post.
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@Aria said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
Apparently, they have a tendency to wait until the new hire has settled in for a few weeks before bothering to cut the other candidates loose.
Not justifying this practice at all, but it's because turnover in the first few weeks tends to be high. In fact there's a percentage of applicants who accept a position then use it as leverage to secure better compensation at their current job.
Sometimes corporate policy is to hire then see if the person shows up and they're competent before letting anyone else know.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@Arkandel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
@Aria said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
Apparently, they have a tendency to wait until the new hire has settled in for a few weeks before bothering to cut the other candidates loose.
Not justifying this practice at all, but it's because turnover in the first few weeks tends to be high. In fact there's a percentage of applicants who accept a position then use it as leverage to secure better compensation at their current job.
Sometimes corporate policy is to hire then see if the person shows up and they're competent before letting anyone else know.
Ohh, I know. I once worked at a place where I was training my backfill for a temp-to-perm role after they decided to hire someone with 'more qualifications' (read: better schooling/certificates on paper, but zero experience doing the actual job). He came in, worked for a day, said he had no idea how I managed the workload, then promptly quit. The manager decided this must be my fault.
A year later, he applied for a position at the place I was working at the time and while I was breaking the supposed confidentiality of the hiring process in our department, I had to let my boss know about it as soon as I saw his name show up on the interview schedule because I suspected he might do it again, given that the roles weren't much different.
So I get why companies do it. They're covering their bases and honestly, that's fine. The problem is that they treat people like shit in the process, when a direct statement of "We decided to go with another candidate for this role, but we also really, really liked you. Would you want us to keep your resume on file in case it doesn't work out or if we have another position open up?" would probably net them a yes and an expanded network of future candidates they could reach out to before even advertising newly opened positions.
https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
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Welp, hey, they did contact me.
yadda yadda we love your credentials we think you're great but we aren't interested
trying to be woosah and tell myself that it's because the universe is gonna give me something else great
while trying not to think about how that job would've paid me half again what the job I've been in does.
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@Aria said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
The problem is that they treat people like shit in the process
They do. 100%.
That's why treating companies as anything other than the other party in a mostly temporary arrangement is a mistake, as the association will only be valid as long as it's beneficial to them.
There's no such thing as loyalty on the corporations' end; they will drop you the microsecond it serves them better to do so, which is why if at any point an employee would be better served by leaving they should do exactly that. The same thing applies to salary negotiations, promotions, everything.
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3 min past when my ultimate werewolf event was supposed to start and no one is here.
One person said she'd be running late. Two people confirmed earlier today but aren't here.
Earlier this week there was about a dozen people who were all confirmed.I'm starting to feel super embarrassed for even thinking of doing this.
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@Auspice said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
3 min past when my ultimate werewolf event was supposed to start and no one is here.
One person said she'd be running late. Two people confirmed earlier today but aren't here.
Earlier this week there was about a dozen people who were all confirmed.
I'm starting to feel super embarrassed for even thinking of doing this.I am so sorry.
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Okay.
False alarm.
Maybe.One of the girls I hang out with regularly showed up so if nothing else we can eat and drink and hang out.
Plus the hibiscus cider I got is super tasty.
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I don't know who decided that work should start in the mornings, but that person is shit and I hate them.
https://whatiswrongwith.me/Mia
There were never any good old days. They are today. They are tomorrow. It's a stupid thing we say, cursing tomorrow with sorrow. -- Gogol Bordello -
@Aria said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
I don't know who decided that work should start in the mornings, but that person is shit and I hate them.
I could legit come in to work at 11 AM or so, but I hate hate hate hate hate being at work in the afternoon. Anything past 3PM is just horrible.
So.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
@Aria said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
I don't know who decided that work should start in the mornings, but that person is shit and I hate them.
I could legit come in to work at 11 AM or so, but I hate hate hate hate hate being at work in the afternoon. Anything past 3PM is just horrible.
So.
Same.
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Extremely petty gripe of the day: waking up to hear that Billie Ellish won a bunch of Grammys. It's cool that the award is being given out to people who don't sing, but do spoken word on their albums. Feel like Henry Rollins should've won a boatload in that case.
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@Testament said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
Extremely petty gripe of the day: waking up to hear that Billie Ellish won a bunch of Grammys. It's cool that the award is being given out to people who don't sing, but do spoken word on their albums. Feel like Henry Rollins should've won a boatload in that case.
She's 18 years old and does most of her own songwriting, has directed at least one music video.....
Go listen to 'everything I wanted'.
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@Testament said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
Extremely petty gripe of the day: waking up to hear that Billie Ellish won a bunch of Grammys.
It's nice to see someone winning awards for music that echoes stuff that came out almost 25 years ago, sort of like how Ed Sheeran won all those awards for Thinking Out Loud.
I mean, compare Eilish to Simmons. Simmons admitted to having never taken a vocal lesson in her life.
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I mean, my petty social-thrashing peeve is people who aren't dependent on their place in the music industry actually giving awards like the Grammys any weight.
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Billie Eilish wrote a Michael Skarn song. For that she deserves everything ever.
