Dead Celebrity Thread

[Vorpal]

@Thenomain said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

@Vorpal

I felt like I was watching the series that Galaxy Quest was meant to be.

That's actually a good way of putting it. Yes.

Anyhow, the Star Trek movies have replaced actors before, so. I'm more concerned about the guy getting pinned between his car and a wall. That sounds painful and a slow way to go.

It is horrible... and also so strange. I know the police have said there was no foul play... still, just both horrible and bizarre.

[Ganymede]

@Vorpal said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

It is horrible... and also so strange. I know the police have said there was no foul play... still, just both horrible and bizarre.

There was a vehicle recall, if my facts are correct.

[Cupcake]

@Ganymede said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

@Vorpal said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

It is horrible... and also so strange. I know the police have said there was no foul play... still, just both horrible and bizarre.

There was a vehicle recall, if my facts are correct.

According to the police, he was only alive for about a minute after he was pinned. Granted, a minute can seem like a long time in certain contexts.

[WTFE]

You mean contexts like a multi-ton vehicle holding your chest down so you simply cannot breathe, as CO2 builds up in your bloodstream and the overwhelming urge to just BREATHE IN overpowers you with its incredible pain? You know, that incredible burning pain that takes over every fibre of your being until finally, mercifully, your brain shuts off and you slip into unconsciousness and, finally, death?

Nah. Can't see it.

[Coin]

I think this thread is morbid enough by its nature without actually discussing the horrifying nature of some of the deaths we mourn.

Enough to say Yelchin was a good actor, cut down way, way, way before his time by a tragic accident.

[WTFE]

We each of us grieve in our own way.

[lordbelh]

I always found Star Trek horribly campy, and I never watched a single episode from start to finish. I did like the new Star Trek movies, though, and the only reason is probably because they weren't very Star Trek.

[Arkandel]

@lordbelh said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

I always found Star Trek horribly campy, and I never watched a single episode from start to finish. I did like the new Star Trek movies, though, and the only reason is probably because they weren't very Star Trek.

What bugs me about the current Star Trek movies compared to former incarnation is that they're not as... cerebral. And I don't mean the series were always highly thoughtful or whatever - there were plenty of cringe-worthy moments, Kirk bagging green alien chicks and whatnot in there.

But when the good guys prevailed in the past it was typically because they out-thought their opposition. They did something clever, they found a loophole, exploited a vulnerability they arrived at through logical analysis or technology, there was something smart involved.

The new series favors acrobatics, superior fighting skills and pewpew'ing their way out of tough situations. While spectacular and on its own still enjoyable, that's not what Star Trek is about for me.

As usual YMMV though.

[Miss Demeanor]

I dunno... I would never call Kirk 'cerebral', really. And he was largely responsible for getting the crew into, and out of, most of their scrapes. Spock saved them sometimes with logic, or Bones with medicine, but largely it was Kirk, flying by the seat of his pants, making shit up as he went along. Which, to me, is fairly well represented with the new movies.

I will admit to having been disappointed with the swap out of Kirk and Spock in the Khan one, however. That was one of Spock's shining moments of 'humanity', and they gave it to the redneck from Iowa.

[Coin]

@Arkandel said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

@lordbelh said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

I always found Star Trek horribly campy, and I never watched a single episode from start to finish. I did like the new Star Trek movies, though, and the only reason is probably because they weren't very Star Trek.

What bugs me about the current Star Trek movies compared to former incarnation is that they're not as... cerebral. And I don't mean the series were always highly thoughtful or whatever - there were plenty of cringe-worthy moments, Kirk bagging green alien chicks and whatnot in there.

But when the good guys prevailed in the past it was typically because they out-thought their opposition. They did something clever, they found a loophole, exploited a vulnerability they arrived at through logical analysis or technology, there was something smart involved.

The new series favors acrobatics, superior fighting skills and pewpew'ing their way out of tough situations. While spectacular and on its own still enjoyable, that's not what Star Trek is about for me.

As usual YMMV though.

A glaring difference that a bigger budget can make. Once you have the money for the action, you stop finding alternatives.

[Bobotron]

@Miss-Demeanor
I dunno, I like that it went from showing Spock's 'sacrifice' humanity to 'REVENGE' humanity, as it doesn't seem like revenge and anger is something that Vulcans typically embody (much like his pushing and beating up of the kid in the origin point of the first movie).

[Three-Eyed Crow]

I'm pretty meh on the new Star Trek movies. I enjoyed-ish the first one as an action movie but I agree it didn't 'feel' like Trek, and I disliked the second one pretty intensely.

That said, the thing I admired about them is how well-cast they are in terms of actors who evoke the original characters. I loved Quinto and his interactions with Nimoy in particular, but Yelchin was definitely great at doing Chekhov, and seemed very talented in his other work. Incredibly sad loss.

[Vorpal]

@Bobotron said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

@Miss-Demeanor
(much like his pushing and beating up of the kid in the origin point of the first movie).

That bit, actually, I do find it consistent with what we know about Vulcans. Vulcans embraced a philosophy of total emotional repression because their emotions, apparently, were so strong as to be extremely destructive (some hella glands they must have.) Spock, being a hybrid (the only one in his time) from a union with a species most Vulcans regarded as emotionally unstable, was probably the butt of many barbs. Vulcans are huge snobs- they're just not rude about it. Baby Spock probably faced more challenges than most when it came to taming his inner beast. A flare up here or there wouldn't have been unlikely.

[Bobotron]

@Three-Eyed-Crow
I really liked Yelchin in Odd Thomas. I thought he did an excellent job in that.

[Coin]

@Bobotron said in Dead Celebrity Thread:

@Three-Eyed-Crow
I really liked Yelchin in Odd Thomas. I thought he did an excellent job in that.

That fucking movie, though.

My feelz at the end. Gut punched like whoa.

[Bobotron]

@Coin
Yeah, there were some feels. It was a little bit expected of what happened, but... still.

[Thenomain]

Can we keep this thread to deaths of people we admire, please? Thanks.

(Talking about the Star Trek analysis, there.)

[Miss Demeanor]

http://tvline.com/2016/07/19/garry-marshall-dead-at-81-happy-days-creator/

O.O

Garry Marshall... holy fuck.

[Cupcake]

Babylon Five's Jerry Doyle, dead at age 60. (http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/28/jerry-doyle-babylon-5-dead/)

[Tyche]

Mad magazine cartoonist Jack Davis dies aged 91