Game of Thrones
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@Dreampipe YES. THAT. shakes TV
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Because I am me, I noticed this and went 'awwwwwyisssssss' but pretty sure no one else will care. But if/when you watch this episode again...
***Costume Geek Moment!***
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These two fuckin' people...
***I just can't.***
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***=So after watching last night's episode but also reading a ***
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Hey so....
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@Ghost Hey so about all of that, and the things we have to write to keep spoilers from showing up and being considerate okay this is long enough.
***what thread do you think you're reading***
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***=My prediction for how the show will actually end. We should turn this into a game to compare at the end and see who got closer. ***
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Anyone got predictions on who the Prince Who Was Promised is?
Please note Melisandre confirmed that "prince" is gender neutral.
Ready? Go.
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A spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler DIS-COURSE DIS-COURSE (to the tune of the "Badger Badger" song).
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@Sparks said in Game of Thrones:
And Ned was unquestionably a good person, but I do not think he was actually a good leader when it comes down to it; he was willing to risk everything—his home, his people, his family—because he wouldn't compromise his honor.
I'll tackle this outside of spoiler tags since they're unnecessary for it.
Ned was an excellent liar. In fact he kicked ass with it - he had a secret which he kept from everyone for many years, including his own wife, and in fact he used his immaculate reputation as a way to perpetulate that lie; no one questioned how this honorable man had a bastard with some random chick because why would he lie about it? Duuuh.
And even later in life he made the choice of his people over his honor. It's how he lost his head by admitting to treason specifically so they'd be safe from the Lannisters. Things would have actually worked out pretty well if Joffrey wasn't a complete idiot about it - Eddark Stark in the Night's Watch could have altered the course of several events on the Wall.
Having said that his biggest mistake was made due his honor of course, by warning Cersei about what he knew and giving her a chance to strike first.
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I wanna see Cersei and Danaerys fight.
And by that I don't mean "dragon vs mountain", I mean Cersei vs Danaerys in a fuck you too, bitch showdown where two characters who are about as martially proficient as Gilly the Wildling choke the fuck out of each other.
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@Ghost There will be no kink shaming in this thread so maybe you'll get what you desire, friend.
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My prediction...
***=Presto! Predicto!***
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I have heard that the ending of the season has been leaked. I have been exposed, unintentionally, to what an anonymous rando on the internet claimed to be the ending based on those leaks.
Said ending was so absurd that I do not think the anonymous rando was correct. But if the anonymous rando was correct?
HOO BOY
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Okay, since we're talking about book 1/season 1 here, I'll stay outside of spoiler tags as well.
@Arkandel said in Game of Thrones:
Ned was an excellent liar. In fact he kicked ass with it - he had a secret which he kept from everyone for many years, including his own wife, and in fact he used his immaculate reputation as a way to perpetulate that lie; no one questioned how this honorable man had a bastard with some random chick because why would he lie about it? Duuuh.
Yes, and (at least in the books) it's made quite clear through his internal dialogue that it's the only lie he's ever told (even if, in the books, we've never had true confirmation about what that lie was), and that he only lied because he swore an oath to do so. And that the conflict between "I must not break my oath" and "I am perpetrating an immense lie" was eating him up inside in many ways.
As for choosing his people over his honor at the end, I agree 100%. However, I think what you seem to be saying is an example of what Ned always was, I see it as Ned making a choice to be something different. He agonizes a lot about whether to make a false confession. And the moment when he decides to do so—making the choice that maybe his honor didn't matter compared to the good of his people and family—seemed like a turning point to me. Yes, that decision cost him his life, but it (mostly) spared his people; I view it as when he stopped being an example (this paragon of honor and truth) to his people, and made a choice as their leader.
In the end, I think we're looking at the same events and interpreting them differently. But, hey, that's part of the fun of fiction!
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***=Answers to Coin's predictions under a spoiler tag.***
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@Arkandel I'm not Coin.
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@Ghost And for that you should be eternally grateful. Also, I fucked up.