Good TV
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I was making an anecdotal observation that a lot of white guys are really mad right now on various WoT fansites.
Counselor, why are you on WoT fansites?
Been on them since I was twelve, and inertia is a hell of a drug. Also, most of us in the group I'm in don't even really like the series that much anymore, since Jordan lost the thread hard after Lord of Chaos.
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@ZombieGenesis Omg this totally not scully and mulder episode! Ugh so good.
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@Jaded The issue is, ask ten fans what would make a script 'real Wheel of Time' and you'll probably get ten different responses.
For example I like Rand. Other people have different favorites. We won't all get the same attention to our specific arcs that we'd like, and it'll come down to the showrunner or any breakout actors.
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Finished the fourth season of Lucifer. While it misses the campy humor of the seasons on Fox, Netflix's season shows better preparation and writing.
Can't wait for the fifth and final season.
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@Jaded The issue is, ask ten fans what would make a script 'real Wheel of Time' and you'll probably get ten different responses.
Just take a look at the WoT MU thread and see all the different opinions on "what makes a game WoT to you.
I'm still thinking I would bet money on the show being cancelled after season 2, but maybe it'll inspire someone with the time to make a MUSH
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@WildBaboons said in Good TV:
but maybe it'll inspire someone with the time to make a MUSH
<hope intensifies>
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Honestly the only interest I'd have in a WoT setting is if it took place after the events of tbe series. Sanderson's slapdash writing left a ton of holes that are great starting points for metaplot.
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Honestly the only interest I'd have in a WoT setting is if it took place after the events of tbe series. Sanderson's slapdash writing left a ton of holes that are great starting points for metaplot.
I think I'm in the hesitant crowd.
Sword of Truth was very cool to see in live action, but it missed the mark because it was treated like Xena.
However, it looks like epic live action fantasy is going to be the thing on TV in a few years. Prime has WoT and Lord of the Rings. Netflix has Witcher. The power of Game of Thrones has opened the floodgates, so we might be about to get some awesome content.
Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
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Sorry, I was very unclear. I was talking about a WoT RP setting.
The tv series, like the books, is going to be a joyful and complete disaster, and I cannot wait.
Tai shar Manetheren.
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I never ever touched the WoT series, I think it was the cover art that was always bad, and the synopsis never looked good. I've always heard it was super popular but it never reached out to me in any meaningful way, meanwhile i was absorbing other series all over the surrounding shelves.
Is my post relevant to this discussion? No, but i wanted to make something about me for a minute. Thank you.
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I never ever touched the WoT series, I think it was the cover art that was always bad, and the synopsis never looked good. I've always heard it was super popular but it never reached out to me in any meaningful way, meanwhile i was absorbing other series all over the surrounding shelves.
Is my post relevant to this discussion? No, but i wanted to make something about me for a minute. Thank you.
Committing to read the entire WoT series feels like committing to walk from Seattle to Orlando in flip-flops.
Each book seems the size of 2 bibles.
Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
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@Ghost It's also not a consistent ride.
The first five books are (in my opinion, obviously) quite good. Not necessarily on the masterpiece level but great reads with a lot of ideas, fresh concepts and interesting characters.
For instance the way the One Power worked and the sheer level of detail RJ put into it were pretty amazing for the time, paving the way for Sanderson's own magic systems later on. A lot of details were also awesome inventions - how ta'veren worked, for instance, explained in an in-universe fashion why these characters always seemed to be around when interesting stuff... happened to happen or survived out of luck and circumstance. Those weren't just coincidences, it was because they were ta'veren.
But, again in my opinion, some time during/after book six things went wrong. Too many dangling subplots, and RJ kept opening new threads instead of closing older ones. We kept being introduced to new characters (each of whom seemed to be more powerful than the last, when we were already told the last ones were the most powerful seen in hundreds of years) and the bloat built up both in in-setting power but also just things that needed to be resolved and weren't being.
A TV show can fix some of those things, hopefully. If they are lucky enough the casting will work, too.
That's many ifs, but I'm hopeful. Now if we get a great WoT MUSH out of this, I'd be overjoyed.
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Wheel of Time and Sword of Truth both failed on book 3 for me. Books 1 and 2: awesome.
Book 3: painful, grueling, boring slog that I just put down and never picked back up.
Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.
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@Auspice The sword of truth was one of those series that I loved when it started and then hated it a few books in. They kept repeating lame patterns of plot (doubt protag at every turn but it's okay because he's special and right in the end) and things seemed to get really preachy with the Authors RL views.
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One more thing I quite like about the Wheel of Time: It's very translatable to a MUSH.
That is, despite the power levels and meaning to the story certain specific book characters have, there are a ton of playable concepts with cool things available for PCs without stretching disbelief too much. Depending on the timeline and goals you can have male or female channelers, Aiel warriors (and different channelers), Warders, Whitecloaks, Borderlanders, Seanchan (... and different channelers)... then if the game wants to go that way, too, darkfriends.
Not all of those are going to be possible or even advisable to run at the same time, or not for every game. But they are possible. WoT works quite well for a game as a setting even in the absence of book characters - it can even thrive that way.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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WoT works quite well for a game as a setting even in the absence of book characters - it can even thrive that way.
This is why I'd really like to see a post-books setting in a MUSH. There's so much still to be done. All we know about the Fourth Age is from the visions at Rhuidean, and who knows how accurate those are?
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WoT had some pretty cool monsters in it, but oh my god, I wanted to murder all of the protagonists in every way possible!
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WoT had some pretty cool monsters in it, but oh my god, I wanted to murder all of the protagonists in every way possible!
sniff
tug braid
cross arm beneath bosom
woolhead
ETA: Myrddraal remain some of the creepiest minions of evil around. The cape not responding to the wind is my favorite part.
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@Rinel I quite loved the paranoia of who is, or might be, a darkfriend - sometimes based on very minor clues, any bit of irregular behavior, that one thing someone said that one time, etc.
It seems a bit more common now that we've seen the same thing a bunch of times in the form of Skrulls, Cylons, etc... but I feel back then it was a brand new, cool concept: Paranoia in fantasy.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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Only three episodes in (because I went back to rewatch the first season), but the second season of Mindhunter is living up to my expectations.
