RL Anger
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Yes, the economic factors are the result of EPA regulations that the Obama administration put into effect.
Which economic factors are those? You mention them without specificity.
Like, are you talking about the reason it retired Unit 1? That was because Los Angeles Department of Power and Water sold its 21% share to a public utility, the Salt River Project.
Maybe we should take it from Peabody Energy, who provided the NGS with coal and filed for bankruptcy last year: "The company cited an “unprecedented industry downturn,” which it attributed to a range of factors including an economic slowdown in China, low coal prices and “overproduction of domestic shale gas.” In the United States, cheap natural gas, driven by the shale-gas boom, has been steadily eating into coal’s share of electricity generation."
So, how has the Obama Administration responsible for: (1) the economic slowdown in China; (2) low coal prices; and (3) the overproduction of domestic shale gas? And, presuming these facts to be true, how can these not be linked to Republican policies regarding: (1) enforcing competition laws against China; (2) de-regulating coal to lower its cost; and (3) permitting and proliferating shale gas mining operations in order to combat OPEC-directed oil shortages?
Please respond with something more than "because." I'm interesting to know how Pruitt plans to change all of this, and meet Trump's mandate of "saving coal."
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@Ganymede 3 million illegal immigrants voted for Hillary.
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It isn't really anger. It's more... sad, I guess.
What seems like a really long time ago now, a late night diner coffee friend of mine and I had this long-standing argument about the myth of Pandora's Box, and more specifically, Hope.
For those not familiar with the myth -- which I'd more or less assume is nobody here, but you never know -- the box contained "all the evils of the world", and when it was opened, they escaped to plague mankind. Urged to close the box, Pandora started to do so, only to find Hope still at the bottom, struggling its way out into the world.
We argued about that myth for what must have been four years, on and off -- on road trips to the beach, over coffee as the sun rose, walking along abandoned railroad tracks in the middle of the night looking for a cave someone told us about that they swore was haunted -- and it seemed like almost any conversation touched on it, somehow, somewhere along the line, until it was more of an in-joke than an argument.
While it may be hard to believe, I was always the optimist, of the two of us. My take on the myth was simply that without any evil in the world, we didn't need Hope, either.
He always shook his head, and insisted: Hell, no. Hope? The heaviest, slowest, most horrible evil of anything that could ever have been in the box, and the cause of more pain and frustration than all the rest put together.
It's been years now since he and I talked, having had a spectacular falling out after he started dating one of my other friends and I got the 'you can only be friends with one of us!' ultimatum when they split, but I still think back on that long-running exchange every once in a while.
It's been more than every once in a while, lately, and in regard to a specific situation that really, actually, pretty profoundly meant something big to me, that I'm finding myself on his side of the argument instead of mine.
And I really, really fucking hate it.
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I am well aware of the federal structure with regard to seeking development permissions. This is maneuvering to have access to resources (relatively few to land mass and location) and resource transport (Keystone, etc.) without having to be challenged by Indian people for it.
However, I'd like to point there are few recognized tribes relative to the whole of us that have anything worth developing. PacNW tribes have negotiated resource treaties which as worked out well for them and there are some tribes in Maine and the mid-Atlantic who also have resources that they can manage and financially draw from. The key here though is these tribes didn't endure the disruptive reach of forced relocation.
The rest of us? We have nothing. My tribe spans the Canada/US border. The Alberta side has resource access due to the energy boom in Alberta. The US side doesn't have dick and for most relocated tribes, that's also the situation. The coal plant you reference is on tribal land that on the whole spans 4 states. Most of the Navajo nation has nothing, the distribution of wealth from that plant has definitely not been evenly distributed. Most Nation members live at or below the poverty line.
Most BLM land is land that no one wants for a reason- no matter how resource rich it may be, it's so far away from population centers. The resource draws have to be enough to make it worthwhile to invest in an infrastructure system to extract and most tribes lack that start-up.
In the mean time, there are other benefits that we lose by having our sovereignty revoked. Given the poverty, rates of addiction, and lacking access to education, these are lifelines to Indian people in an already bad situation. There is likely no transition plan to deal with these disruptions, so while I understand that this is a resources game - people's lives depend on recognition.
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Thank you for sharing.
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Being four hours out of town when I realize my apartment keys are missing and being told by the apartment office that no, they can't help me because it's their lunch break soon and to call back later only to finally get someone two hours later after calling repeatedly who tells me that they couldn't help me and tell me I wasted my time by calling thus trapping me in a limbo of wondering if I told them to change the locks in time and if my apartment will be bare and empty when I return. I hope I wasn't robbed. But I won't know until Friday. Because the apartment people won't even freaking check for me so I can file a police report.
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@Admiral
They can't change your locks for you. It's part of your tenants rights. Nor can they go into your apartment without a written 24 hour notice. - I got hospitalized and have a dog. It was fun to get said dog out of my apartment. A locksmith wouldn't even talk to the landlord. I would have to be present.
They could have security swing by and see if it looks upset from the outside. I'm sure that no one has broken in. Deep breaths.
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You think to yourself.
"Self, I shall make a loaf of meat. I haven't done that in forever. It will be dinner. It will be epic."
You pull out all the things and hum to yourself. You are short so you climb up on a large footstool to get your loaf pan, still humming.
Then you remember you let someone borrow said pan. You cannot remember who or how long ago that was, but it should have been returned.
There is a sad. So much sad.
*Although, I'll just 'form' it and bake it on a cookie sheet. It's NOT the same!!
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@Catsmeow I have never made meatloaf in a loaf pan. My mother never made meatloaf in a loaf pan. This is a strange concept and I'm wondering if it's specific to some area of the country that is not NY.
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I think my nana, who hailed from Chicago originally, used a loaf pan for her meatloaf. Can't say for certain, however, as meatloaf was not something she often made.
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I grew up in MN and almost always use a loaf pan. I have made it on a cookie sheet before but will agree with @Catsmeow that it is just not the same.
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I gave them confirmation and they're changing the locks. Please don't scare me like that. X.x
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I'm originally from MI and it's how I learned to make it. Maybe it's a Midwest thing? It keeps it nice and uniform, etc.
Still -- who has my pan?!
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I have two thoughts. Some things are regional. It might not be a NY thing for some reason. But it also occurred to me that it might be a Jewish thing. Not that my family ever kept kosher but if you once put meat in a loaf pan, you can never use it again for anything that uses dairy. Butter is dairy.
You can have 2 of course but it can just be patted into shape instead.
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Or you can be like my in-laws and have meat, dairy AND pareve dishes. And kosher for pesedach, too.
At least they're only Conservative, so they don't lawyer everything else about shabbat.
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@hedgehog Yeah, my sister in law came from an orthodox family so they had multiple sets. She's eased up over the years but still keeps kosher. My parents never did but things like that are handed down, often unintentionally. It never once occurred to me to use a loaf pan for meatloaf because my mom never did. She might not have because her mom never did. Etc, going back to whoever it was who did keep kosher and just patted her meatloaf into shape instead of having a second loaf pan.
I'll have to try this loaf pan thing.
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I'll have to try this loaf pan thing.
You should. It's not just a Midwestern thing; it's also a Chinese-Canadian-from-Toronto-area thing. The good thing about a loaf pan, I've found, is I can make the loaf a bit more moist.
Mine is a double-decker.. has drainage holes in the bottom of the interior pan which lets me use a bit more liquid flavoring in my loaves as the excess will drip out rather than make it a soggy mess. ^_^
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Someone I asked yesterday said she puts some bread at the bottom to absorb grease if the meat used is less lean.
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...that we're discussing the best ways to prep meatloaf in the RL Anger thread is one of the reasons I love this forum sometimes.
We always do a mix of meats in ours. I have to wonder if that's normal or something we just picked up from my grandmother, as she'd use the leftovers to make meatballs (or the leftovers from meatballs to make meatloaf, depending). It's usually the meatball mix our local butcher shop has -- and I forget precisely what's in it, but it's beef and a few other things pre-blended from fresh, and it's really, really good, if a bit pricier than just using ground beef.