RL Anger

[Groth]

@Wizz said:

Read: pervasive racism and sexism. If you really want to drag this down to semantics, fine, whatever, yes, he will encounter fleeting moments of "racism and sexism" by one of the literal definition of those terms outside of the context of this discussion.

Derp will face pervasive racism and sexism. Benevolent racism and sexism is still racism and sexism and has it's own issues. For instance it will most likely continue to remain hard for Derp to gain access to support groups as the social expectation is for him to be able to take care of himself

@Wizz said:

And yes, there will be a finite number of times in his life where he will experience real hostility or negative bias. There is still just no comparison to the kind of life typical to a person who doesn't check two arbitrary boxes.

Assuming Derp is telling the truth, then Derp is doing worse then the typical member of any western social group you can care to name. The typical, as in statistically median member of most social groups is doing just fine.

[Cirno]

@Lithium said:

Then I guess you just are flat out IGNORING what happens in certain african countries, because of the shape of people's noses. I am sure you are ignoring the times when yes, people are attacked and killed, because of NOT being black, or mexican, or south american, or not having the right religion, or not agreeing in the same VERSION of marriage?

You're right, just because you can link pictures of HORRIBLE stuff people have done to black people, means that black people have NEVER done HORRIBLE stuff to others because they weren't black.

I've seen what happens and experienced violence myself. I may not be dead and hung, or burned because clearly I am still here, but there are PLENTY of violence on BOTH SIDES.

EDIT: But hey, that's a complete fallacy, never happens, totally untrue.

Guess what, institutionalized slavery? Not a thing currently going on here. Bad shit happened, nobody is denying that. Bad shit STILL happens. But apparently it only counts when it happens to black people.

And this is why it will never end.

Edit 2:

And because I have no desire to try and outshock anyone, I'm not going to link what happened to /my/ ancestors.

But are you dead, though?

Furthermore, are you aware of the Rwandan Genocide? You know, the time when black people ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of other black people?

So your point about Africa isn't really going anywhere.

Also, What race are you? Declare yourself, or hold your peace. Not that it matters, because I'm pulling out of this thread.

[WTFE]

I assume that now that Cirno has stopped huffing glue (or whatever it is he's doing when he's not bored and trolling) there will be more impetus in getting an ignore feature into the BBS software?

[BigDaddyAmin]

@Wizz

Well then...

Give us a homeland where we can be our own CIS Gendered selves. You all can I guess...try and breed?

Newsflash...the real world doesn't work on Shangrila sexual principles.

[Lithium]

@Cirno said:

@Lithium said:

Then I guess you just are flat out IGNORING what happens in certain african countries, because of the shape of people's noses. I am sure you are ignoring the times when yes, people are attacked and killed, because of NOT being black, or mexican, or south american, or not having the right religion, or not agreeing in the same VERSION of marriage?

You're right, just because you can link pictures of HORRIBLE stuff people have done to black people, means that black people have NEVER done HORRIBLE stuff to others because they weren't black.

I've seen what happens and experienced violence myself. I may not be dead and hung, or burned because clearly I am still here, but there are PLENTY of violence on BOTH SIDES.

EDIT: But hey, that's a complete fallacy, never happens, totally untrue.

Guess what, institutionalized slavery? Not a thing currently going on here. Bad shit happened, nobody is denying that. Bad shit STILL happens. But apparently it only counts when it happens to black people.

And this is why it will never end.

Edit 2:

And because I have no desire to try and outshock anyone, I'm not going to link what happened to /my/ ancestors.

But are you dead, though?

Furthermore, are you aware of the Rwandan Genocide? You know, the time when black people ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of other black people?

So your point about Africa isn't really going anywhere.

Also, What race are you? Declare yourself, or hold your peace. Not that it matters, because I'm pulling out of this thread.

I've already declared myself. I am a mutt. I am a mix of a few different European caucasian branches, along with Blackfoot and Sioux. Enough so that I am legally of those two tribes but I don't look like an archetypical native american.

And yes, the Rwandan genocide does prove my point. Everyone does it.

Japan and China, the Korean peninsula, Indonesia, the caste systems in India, the general state of things in the middle east, humans are fucked up, racist, and downright brutal to everyone.

It's not a 'white' thing. It's a /human/ thing.

Until people can come to grips with that, and move beyond it, you're going to get the same old shit happening over and over again.

There is plenty of horror in this world there is no need to try and make it worse with an us vs them mentality that @Cirno is promoting.

[Cirno]

@Lithium said:

@Cirno said:

@Lithium said:

Then I guess you just are flat out IGNORING what happens in certain african countries, because of the shape of people's noses. I am sure you are ignoring the times when yes, people are attacked and killed, because of NOT being black, or mexican, or south american, or not having the right religion, or not agreeing in the same VERSION of marriage?

You're right, just because you can link pictures of HORRIBLE stuff people have done to black people, means that black people have NEVER done HORRIBLE stuff to others because they weren't black.

I've seen what happens and experienced violence myself. I may not be dead and hung, or burned because clearly I am still here, but there are PLENTY of violence on BOTH SIDES.

EDIT: But hey, that's a complete fallacy, never happens, totally untrue.

Guess what, institutionalized slavery? Not a thing currently going on here. Bad shit happened, nobody is denying that. Bad shit STILL happens. But apparently it only counts when it happens to black people.

And this is why it will never end.

Edit 2:

And because I have no desire to try and outshock anyone, I'm not going to link what happened to /my/ ancestors.

But are you dead, though?

Furthermore, are you aware of the Rwandan Genocide? You know, the time when black people ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of other black people?

So your point about Africa isn't really going anywhere.

Also, What race are you? Declare yourself, or hold your peace. Not that it matters, because I'm pulling out of this thread.

I've already declared myself. I am a mutt. I am a mix of a few different European caucasian branches, along with Blackfoot and Sioux. Enough so that I am legally of those two tribes but I don't look like an archetypical native american.

And yes, the Rwandan genocide does prove my point. Everyone does it.

Japan and China, the Korean peninsula, Indonesia, the caste systems in India, the general state of things in the middle east, humans are fucked up, racist, and downright brutal to everyone.

It's not a 'white' thing. It's a /human/ thing.

Until people can come to grips with that, and move beyond it, you're going to get the same old shit happening over and over again.

There is plenty of horror in this world there is no need to try and make it worse with an us vs them mentality that @Cirno is promoting.

There will always be the Us vs. them mentality. It's not going to go away. It is basic human nature.

I'm sorry, but I didn't make the rules.

[Lithium]

@Cirno said:

@Lithium said:

@Cirno said:

@Lithium said:

Then I guess you just are flat out IGNORING what happens in certain african countries, because of the shape of people's noses. I am sure you are ignoring the times when yes, people are attacked and killed, because of NOT being black, or mexican, or south american, or not having the right religion, or not agreeing in the same VERSION of marriage?

You're right, just because you can link pictures of HORRIBLE stuff people have done to black people, means that black people have NEVER done HORRIBLE stuff to others because they weren't black.

I've seen what happens and experienced violence myself. I may not be dead and hung, or burned because clearly I am still here, but there are PLENTY of violence on BOTH SIDES.

EDIT: But hey, that's a complete fallacy, never happens, totally untrue.

Guess what, institutionalized slavery? Not a thing currently going on here. Bad shit happened, nobody is denying that. Bad shit STILL happens. But apparently it only counts when it happens to black people.

And this is why it will never end.

Edit 2:

And because I have no desire to try and outshock anyone, I'm not going to link what happened to /my/ ancestors.

But are you dead, though?

Furthermore, are you aware of the Rwandan Genocide? You know, the time when black people ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of other black people?

So your point about Africa isn't really going anywhere.

Also, What race are you? Declare yourself, or hold your peace. Not that it matters, because I'm pulling out of this thread.

I've already declared myself. I am a mutt. I am a mix of a few different European caucasian branches, along with Blackfoot and Sioux. Enough so that I am legally of those two tribes but I don't look like an archetypical native american.

And yes, the Rwandan genocide does prove my point. Everyone does it.

Japan and China, the Korean peninsula, Indonesia, the caste systems in India, the general state of things in the middle east, humans are fucked up, racist, and downright brutal to everyone.

It's not a 'white' thing. It's a /human/ thing.

Until people can come to grips with that, and move beyond it, you're going to get the same old shit happening over and over again.

There is plenty of horror in this world there is no need to try and make it worse with an us vs them mentality that @Cirno is promoting.

There will always be the Us vs. them mentality. It's not going to go away. It is basic human nature.

I'm sorry, but I didn't make the rules.

So then you admit to being a racist, and unwilling to even try and make the world a better place.

Fair enough, you are officially part of the problem and not a part of the solution.

[WTFE]

@Cirno said:

Not that it matters, because I'm pulling out of this thread.

There have been [ 2 ] messages since the flouncing "I'm leaving" message.

[Cirno]

@WTFE said:

I assume that now that Cirno has stopped huffing glue (or whatever it is he's doing when he's not bored and trolling) there will be more impetus in getting an ignore feature into the BBS software?

We get it, WTFE, you hate black people and don't want them saying things around you. Go back to China where they keep black people out. I apologize for being black and saying words in your vicinity.

@Lithium said:

So then you admit to being a racist, and unwilling to even try and make the world a better place.

Fair enough, you are officially part of the problem and not a part of the solution.

There is no such thing as "black racism". Please educate yourself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/reverse-racism-isnt-a-thing_55d60a91e4b07addcb45da97

The idea of 'black racism' is a recent concept 'ginned up by white people. Many academics have already covered this.

[Groth]

That article doesn't say what you think it says. Racism when used academically refers to an institutionalised system of oppression, that's not what anyone refers to when they call someone a racist.

[Lithium]

@Cirno

ROFL

If you believe black people cannot be racist against people of other ethnicities...

I have no words to truly convey things at this point, but I will try. That's just hilarious, and sad, but mostly sad.

I'm starting to agree with @Arkandel at this point, you've got to be trolling and either way, done feeding this pointless conversation.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On Topic, I hate people who don't use their fucking blinkers. It's like, the flip of a lever, really, turn on the god damned blinker before you start cutting people off.

[Wizz]

@BigDaddyAmin said:

@Wizz

Well then...

Give us a homeland where we can be our own CIS Gendered selves.

The fuck? Newsflash: You live there right now.

You all can I guess...try and breed?

Hey, because that's the end goal, right? (PS: I'm a fellow heterosexual white male. I'm just not an asshole about it.)

@Groth said:

@Wizz said:

Read: pervasive racism and sexism. If you really want to drag this down to semantics, fine, whatever, yes, he will encounter fleeting moments of "racism and sexism" by one of the literal definition of those terms outside of the context of this discussion.

Derp will face pervasive racism and sexism. Benevolent racism and sexism is still racism and sexism and has it's own issues. For instance it will most likely continue to remain hard for Derp to gain access to support groups as the social expectation is for him to be able to take care of himself

That is not what pervasive means. And...what do you mean? Are you claiming he wouldn't qualify for welfare? Or are you saying that there are no support groups for adult men, because that is bullshit.

@Wizz said:
Assuming Derp is telling the truth, then Derp is doing worse then the typical member of any western social group you can care to name. The typical, as in statistically median member of most social groups is doing just fine.

...Yyyyyeah, I'll call your cards on that one, hombre. What axis are you even referring to? Financial?

[WTFE]

Experts Say Best Option Now is Keeping Nation As Comfortable As Possible Till End

That about sums up the American political landscape and its toxicity these days.

Me? I'm all about the popcorn.

[OrcRiot]

So what else are we angry about?

[WTFE]

People who ask dumb questions.

[Roz]

Flight cancellations two days before Christmas.

Airlines.

[Arkandel]

@Roz said:

Flight cancellations two days before Christmas.

Airlines.

Flying in general. Treating everyone like a potential terrorist with measures proven to be 95% ineffective, just to show they are doing something.

[Luna]

@Derp Wins the thread. And since I started it, I get to declare these things.

I used to say the same. Wah wah no scholarships so hard so expensive blah blah. Then I got amazing single mom privledge and get to go to school for free. It's super awesome! I get the same pell grants as everyone else, without the drag of a second income to support me and the baby. I have to go to a really inexpensive online school that I breezed into because of the foundation of education I got in high school, which included 2 years of college all folded in. I somehow retained college level algebra and even some of that college level calc.

Oh, yes, I went to a massive 5A high school which had everything from roping and animal husbandry, (because Texas) to college level AP calculus and every language you could want. Meanwhile, HISD struggled, but that's ok, inner city is where all those brown people went. They have some awesome charter programs now that make their schools like mine already was.

There is the point. Statistically, white people are more likely to go to a school like mine. This makes it easier to get into college. And that's the point, were more likely to go to college. So it sucks if you lost the white person lottery (like most of my white trash family), but we're dealing with population statistics not individual cases.

[Tyche]

@Cirno said:

@deadculture

Why... would they do that?

Since when have white people needed a reason to do anything, pal?

Nice segue. /sarc

[Insomnia]

I've been off work since mid October. Bad luck of getting the flu and then getting pneumonia on top of it. I was pretty lucky that I never had to go to the hospital, and I'm living in a place that won't kick me out for missing rent for a few months. But I've gotten to the point that I've pretty much drained all my rainy day funds and when I start work my first few checks are going to go to my dad, and to pay off my credit card. My Steam wallet has more money than I do from selling cards during the holiday sale.

I'm pretty much single, and I haven't spoken to my mom in a decade, so it's just pretty much my dad I have to get anything for is my dad. I got him a little something I saw that I knew he would like and have been hiding it from him for months. He went to see his girlfriend and kids because he's going to be working pretty much straight through to New Year's Eve, so he went to see them now. They did the whole gift thing and he comes back with the thing I had gotten him.

So I go to the only place open on Christmas Even and try to use my points that I have gotten from my many, many prescriptions this year. Can't use them on branded gift cards, but you can use them on the store one, load it up and use it however. Great! Oh wait, no you can't. Okay, I'll buy something and use my points. Great but you have to use the amount exactly, before taxes. And they are tired. So if you want to use $60 worth of points, you can't use $60 of points on a $50 dollar thing. And as I said you pay tax on everything. So if you spend more than your $60 worth of points, tax adds up at 15% here.

So of course I didn't have enough on me. I thought if you use $50 worth of points that gets subtracted from the total. So then I have to play item shuffle, getting to just right to the point tier. And the whole time the cashier is calling over the aisle asking for help because she doesn't know what to do. But instead of just asking for help on how to clear something she practically screamed "She doesn't have enough." four times. And of course the lines that weren't there when I started, kept growing. And she just kept shouting it even though I know I must have looked uncomfortable. I know the people in the line were looking uncomfortable.

I don't know if she was hoping someone would be filled with Christmas cheer and fork over the four bucks I was short or what but damn. It's bad enough to have that happen on just a normal day. And it's not like she's a new cashier, she's been there a while.

So not anger, but not helping with the holiday cheer, and I had to get it out, somewhere.