RL Anger
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I don't actually think all of MU* RP is fanfiction, it's just a dumb sweeping generalization to make that fanficcers are all batshit insane. So I brilliantly countered with another sweeping generalization.
Two wrongs don't make a right. C'mon, we need you to be the adult here.
Fanfiction often gets thrown under the bus in fandom as kind of a "wrong" way to be a fan, which often means the "female" way to be a fan, so I'm biased in the other direction.
What? I mean, obviously, yeah it's totally the 'wrong' way to be a fan, but what's that got to do with women? Is this a stereotype I've managed to go decades without picking up on? My personal experience with fanficcers has been pretty well distributed between men and women.
Also, I'm a fucking hypocrite because I've read some doujinshi, so please take all of this with even more grains of salt than you probably already were. Not that fanficcers aren't the worst of the terrible, but I gotta cop to it.
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@HelloRaptor said:
I don't actually think all of MU* RP is fanfiction, it's just a dumb sweeping generalization to make that fanficcers are all batshit insane. So I brilliantly countered with another sweeping generalization.
Two wrongs don't make a right. C'mon, we need you to be the adult here.
Ugh fuck you why do I get stuck with it! (β―Β°β‘Β°)β―οΈ΅ β»ββ»
Fanfiction often gets thrown under the bus in fandom as kind of a "wrong" way to be a fan, which often means the "female" way to be a fan, so I'm biased in the other direction.
What? I mean, obviously, yeah it's totally the 'wrong' way to be a fan, but what's that got to do with women? Is this a stereotype I've managed to go decades without picking up on? My personal experience with fanficcers has been pretty well distributed between men and women.
I don't really write fanfic myself anymore -- I used to when I was a bright-eyed, eager youngster who needed to write all of her DBZ feels after Toonami -- but I've certainly some bullshit. I certainly know way more female fanficcers than male, but that's just personal experience vs. personal experience. There are definite threads throughout fandoms of criticizing certain WAYS of being a fan, and they all tend to be ways where women are more active than men. It's just fandom policing bullshit, AS PER USUAL.
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@Roz
Weird. The closest thing to being part of a fanfic thing was being part of a gaming/writing group...club...thing, where people wrote stories about their characters and the shared world we were using, but it was all original stuff (or rather, wasn't based primarily on any existing property). I know a lot of them went on to do fanfic type stuff, but it was like 6 girls and 5 guys, which is a pretty even split.I'm willing to concede my experiences may just have been less representative. It was a long time before I really got that people were being serious when they talked about RPGs being male-centric. Virtually every gaming group I've ever played with in RL aside from the very first when I was in middle school, had as many or more females than males. Shadowrun, D&D, WoD, etc, it's pretty much always been that way.
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@Roz said:
@HelloRaptor said:
I don't actually think all of MU* RP is fanfiction, it's just a dumb sweeping generalization to make that fanficcers are all batshit insane. So I brilliantly countered with another sweeping generalization.
Two wrongs don't make a right. C'mon, we need you to be the adult here.
Ugh fuck you why do I get stuck with it! (β―Β°β‘Β°)β―οΈ΅ β»ββ»
Fanfiction often gets thrown under the bus in fandom as kind of a "wrong" way to be a fan, which often means the "female" way to be a fan, so I'm biased in the other direction.
What? I mean, obviously, yeah it's totally the 'wrong' way to be a fan, but what's that got to do with women? Is this a stereotype I've managed to go decades without picking up on? My personal experience with fanficcers has been pretty well distributed between men and women.
I don't really write fanfic myself anymore -- I used to when I was a bright-eyed, eager youngster who needed to write all of her DBZ feels after Toonami -- but I've certainly some bullshit. I certainly know way more female fanficcers than male, but that's just personal experience vs. personal experience. There are definite threads throughout fandoms of criticizing certain WAYS of being a fan, and they all tend to be ways where women are more active than men. It's just fandom policing bullshit, AS PER USUAL.
I don't know how common this is, but when I write a fanfiction, I do try to stay as close to the source material as possible, for the most part. Like, if it's from a TV series, I try to make the story sound as much like a typical episode (or better, if the writing in the TV show hovers around sub-par). I do the stories I think should have been filmed/animated/written but weren't, officially. I've been writing fanfiction since 1989. (and yeah the old stuff wasn't as good, but back then fanfiction I didn't even know was a thing that other people did, and there were no internets in my house until 2000, so I had no idea fanfiction was a term or that it even existed (outside what I wrote)! So thankfully my teenage years didn't base themselves on what anybody thought of what I wrote (and I didn't bother showing it to very many people anyway), so I didn't turn all "fan-bratty", nor did I take severe offense if someone didn't like what I wrote. Hell the whole reason I started writing fanfiction in the first place was The Transformers Cartoon went off the air completely.
I mean sure, I've done a couple "wish fulfilment" style stories, who hasn't? But then comes the internets and I read fanfics of others, and facepalm at the fanbrattiness of some writers who get upset at the mildest of criticisms (such as grammar or text block of doom that should really be separated into paragraphs), as if the critic had kicked their puppy across the road or something. It's like all of a sudden there's a crop of people whose egos need to be stroked constantly or something or they'll get mad, regardless of whether they're putting out something of quality or not (most often not).
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@HelloRaptor said:
Maybe the fanfiction community should stop being so utterly filled with some of the most ridiculously crazy fucking people ever? Fanficcers make MU* drama queens seem utterly tame by comparison.
@Roz: You're making me agree with @HelloRaptor. Please stop!
I've seen some seriously scary shit in MU* circles, and heard of even scarier. And none of it holds a candle to even the surface stuff when I poke my nose into a fanfic community.
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Guys, this is pretty clearly explained.
Fanfiction communities are open to being read and criticized and experienced by non-ficcers. MUs are always going to be pretty exclusively self-contained within the MU community.
And, I mean, I made this point earlier when talking about amount: MUers are considerably less than fanfiction writers, so of course the latter is going to be fucking chock full of crazy and have even crazier. The potential is there due to the sheer numbers.
Fucking duh.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said:
Fanfiction communities are open to being read and criticized and experienced by non-ficcers.
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@HelloRaptor said:
@Coin said:
Fanfiction communities are open to being read and criticized and experienced by non-ficcers.
Remember the other day when I was picking at you for using easily nitpicked language?
Well, fuck you for returning the favor, asshole.
I meant they are public enough that anyone can go and criticize, not that they are open to criticism as people.
Jerkfase twatmonkey.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@Coin said:
@HelloRaptor said:
@Coin said:
Fanfiction communities are open to being read and criticized and experienced by non-ficcers.
Remember the other day when I was picking at you for using easily nitpicked language?
Well, fuck you for returning the favor, asshole.
I meant they are public enough that anyone can go and criticize, not that they are open to criticism as people.
Jerkfase twatmonkey.
Bookmarking to read your post later, too blurry from tears of laughter still.
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@HelloRaptor said:
@Coin said:
@HelloRaptor said:
@Coin said:
Fanfiction communities are open to being read and criticized and experienced by non-ficcers.
Remember the other day when I was picking at you for using easily nitpicked language?
Well, fuck you for returning the favor, asshole.
I meant they are public enough that anyone can go and criticize, not that they are open to criticism as people.
Jerkfase twatmonkey.
Bookmarking to read your post later, too blurry from tears of laughter still.
You unclefucking turdlicking jackass.
I mean, as long as you aren't reading it...
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Writing decent attempts at a fan novel only to have dust bunnies float by while Starscream-Megatron Rape Mpreg Sparkling Estrus Gangbang MLP crossovers get 10,000,000 reads.
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I just have to mention this oldie but a goodie that some of you have probably forgotten and others were lucky enough to not have heard of. Until today.
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/12/fan_ficition_friday_goku_and_anne_frank_in_until_t.php
Yes, you read that link address correctly. Dragon Ball Z and Anne Frank. Oh, yes. Hitler is in it too. Naturally.
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@TNP said:
I just have to mention this oldie but a goodie that some of you have probably forgotten and others were lucky enough to not have heard of. Until today.
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/12/fan_ficition_friday_goku_and_anne_frank_in_until_t.php
Yes, you read that link address correctly. Dragon Ball Z and Anne Frank. Oh, yes. Hitler is in it too. Naturally.
My RL Anger stems from me being so incredibly stupid as to have opened that link, and read through the article.
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@TNP said:
I just have to mention this oldie but a goodie that some of you have probably forgotten and others were lucky enough to not have heard of. Until today.
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/12/fan_ficition_friday_goku_and_anne_frank_in_until_t.php
Yes, you read that link address correctly. Dragon Ball Z and Anne Frank. Oh, yes. Hitler is in it too. Naturally.
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@JaySherman said:
Writing decent attempts at a fan novel only to have dust bunnies float by while Starscream-Megatron Rape Mpreg Sparkling Estrus Gangbang MLP crossovers get 10,000,000 reads.
I uh, I think I mighta had a
tinyhand in getting the "estrus" thing out there. Oops. sry! dies laughing forever at the description of the fics that get ALL THE READS, because that's pretty much spot on. The kinkier the fic, the infinitely larger reads/views!
In the space of a few months, for the SAME author, Vanilla fic, 300 reads. Super ultra kinky with extra tentacles, 6,000-13,000 X(Also, your fan novel. Show me them.
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RL Anger: ESSAYS. Fuuuuuuuuuuck. Damn. Stupid Marx. Stupid Durkheim. Stupid views on education. RAWR!!!!
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Can I just be over everything right now? I'm so over it I don't even want the cake I saved calories for.
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@TNP That one was on BadFanfiction.net. I used to love reading the selections there because they were Ed Wood levels of hilariously awful. Stuff like 'Agony in Pink' or The Matrix: Rearloaded or Arcee does Hulk Hogan.
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I am angry because it is unreasonably hot and no one here has air conditioning.
I am angry because some poopstick is going to buy a bunch of fireworks from the rez and set them off into some tinder dry brush and burn down this stupidly hot land.
And we still won't have air conditioning.
"...and a single tube of glorious MAC Russian Red lipstick because I am a fancy motherfucker." - Muffy Bolding
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My Reddit is ruined but Voat can't keep up. All my hater sanctuaries are messed up.
Fun? What is this fun thou speakest of?
