RL peeves! >< @$!#
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Counter Peeve: Are people really so sensitive you can't just say 'hey, that outfit doesn't work for what we're doing'? Seriously? We have to find ways to say it that doesn't hurt their feelings? Fuck that. I have little time and less patience to concoct winding, rambly phrases that avoids blaming the person who chose the outfit despite knowing which activity was going to be taking place just because their delicate psyche can't handle it. I do not sugarcoat for adults. Real world, people, get used to being bluntly told you did something stupid/silly/shouldn't have done. Accept it and go change your goddamn outfit so we can get to where we're going or someone else is probably going to bitch that we're late.
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@Miss-Demeanor I prefer "take that off before someone takes a picture of it".
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@Silver People of Walmart, yo.
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@HelloRaptor said:
@Sponge said:
If you find yourself saying "I don't mean to X but..." stop right there. The most effective way to not do that thing is to just not do it. If you have to, hold your lips closed because any sentence that starts with that format is not going anywhere anyone wants to go.
This peeve comes up a lot. I have to wonder if none of the people who bitch about it have ever said anything they realized might be taken out of context or otherwise in completely the wrong way due to who they're speaking to.
I realize it's often enough used as if it gives a get out of jail free card (it doesn't) when prefacing something that is absolutely racist/sexist/assholeish/whatever, but c'mon, really? You've never said, "I'm not trying to be mean, but that outfit is a terrible choice for what we're doing." and legitimately were not trying to be mean, but knew you're talking to your histrionic sibling/friend/whatever who takes any such observation as if it's the end of the world?
Oh I have, and it didn't go anywhere anyone wanted to go. As a cerebral alpha-nerd (or maybe just Hue-Man) I've said all kinds of stupid, insensitive shit I've regretted.
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@Miss-Demeanor Yes. Yes there are so many sensitive people that can't handle that. These people are not my friends and this is maybe why I don't have that many friends. Whoops. The friends I do have are kind of awesome in that they'll point something out to me in a store 'that is a tacky ass dress, it's so you!' Which is true. I love some obnoxious shit.
I have a friend I game with. She's a sweetheart, but a bit of a nut. I tell her when she's acting crazy. I've told her she's much too fat because she eats too much. Why beat around the proverbial bush when honesty works better. I can't be friends with people without honesty.
I've gotten in trouble multiple times on TR for it. Opal got me in trouble a lot. No regrets there. I got in trouble for telling Spider she's full of shit. If I don't cater to my friends, I'm not catering to anyone else's delusions.
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"To tell you the truth..."
"To be honest..."Why, do you lie to me all the other times we communicate?
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I guess they figure they have to tell little white lies, lest someone spot them for the giant, assholish rhinoceros of conversation they are. Or it's a 'brace yourself' kind of cue.
Don't get me wrong. I've said plenty of things I regret. But there's often at least a way to say something that might be harsh without totally tearing into someone.
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Oh, here's one. Someone tells me I can't be seriously mentally ill because I have a degree. Wow. Thanks... I feel a lot better about it now...
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@silentsophia said:
Oh, here's one. Someone tells me I can't be seriously mentally ill because I have a degree. Wow. Thanks... I feel a lot better about it now...
Whoever said that hasn't met some of the scientists I have.
But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
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@Silver said:
@silentsophia said:
Oh, here's one. Someone tells me I can't be seriously mentally ill because I have a degree. Wow. Thanks... I feel a lot better about it now...
Whoever said that hasn't met some of the scientists I have.
Whoever said that hasn't met, like. Anyone.
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Anxiety and panic attacks. I'm not sure 'peeve' is a strong enough word. Maybe the peeve is when people say 'oh just do X (think positively, ignore it, meditate, exercise, take meds, etc)' to get over it. OMG I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT in the 3 years I've been dealing with it! Thank you for your brilliant observation and critique about how to fix my mental issues, and for your dismissive, superior attitude.
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@VulgarKitten said:
Anxiety and panic attacks. I'm not sure 'peeve' is a strong enough word. Maybe the peeve is when people say 'oh just do X (think positively, ignore it, meditate, exercise, take meds, etc)' to get over it. OMG I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT in the 3 years I've been dealing with it! Thank you for your brilliant observation and critique about how to fix my mental issues, and for your dismissive, superior attitude.
I know how to fix anxiety issues! Just stop being so anxious!
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@Roz said:
I know how to fix anxiety issues! Just stop being so anxious!
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?! We have spent BILLIONS on this research, and HERE YOU ARE....
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@VulgarKitten Just breathe! I don't know what your deal is. God. All you have to do is get over it. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
Fun? What is this fun thou speakest of?
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@Miss-Demeanor said:
Counter Peeve: Are people really so sensitive you can't just say 'hey, that outfit doesn't work for what we're doing'? Seriously? We have to find ways to say it that doesn't hurt their feelings? Fuck that. I have little time and less patience to concoct winding, rambly phrases that avoids blaming the person who chose the outfit despite knowing which activity was going to be taking place just because their delicate psyche can't handle it. I do not sugarcoat for adults. Real world, people, get used to being bluntly told you did something stupid/silly/shouldn't have done. Accept it and go change your goddamn outfit so we can get to where we're going or someone else is probably going to bitch that we're late.
So, so much this. +9000
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
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@Derp Yeah, but this is still no excuse for being a dick when you don't need to be.
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@Luna said:
@VulgarKitten Just breathe! I don't know what your deal is. God. All you have to do is get over it. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
Right??? Why didn't I think of that? It's like my brain just shuts down or something...
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Unicode. The standard, the consortium, and the people on it. All of it together. It's a festering pile of shit.
But…
Until recently it was the best we had. For whatever reason TRON Encoding never really took off. This left us with a billion other subtly incompatible and immiscible ways of doing mixed-language text that were half-baked and horrible to use. In comes Unicode to the rescue!
But…
Today, twenty-four years after Unicode was first released as a standard it has utterly failed in even covering all the "glyphs" (a typical horrific piece of Unicode jargon) used in major world languages. There are literally millions of people who cannot properly write their names in Unicode's characters. In some languages inappropriate combining must be done to approximate the real glyphs. In others the glyphs don't exist in any form at all, combined or otherwise. This despite seven major revisions (and innumerable minor ones) of the standard.
Along the way we've seen a dozen things like the political and technical stupidity that is the Han Unification. (Know what it is and disagree with why it's stupid? Well, under the logic of the Han Unification, most European languages really belong under a hypothetical Greek Unification because of the massive overlap in both characters and history between Latin, Cyrillic, and Greek alphabets. I mean really, what's the difference between A and А or P and Р? There's no reason to separate them! Hell even N and И are clearly variants of the same glyph! Stupid, no? Same applies to Han Unification.)
So... with seven major revisions behind us we still can't write everybody's name even in the major languages. (You don't want to know what being in a minority language group is like!) But with 7.0 we got this festering turd of an addition. On the down side: a few million people can't actually write their names yet. On the up side, however, they can at least express their discontent at this in ways that are disarmingly creative (�, code point 1F4A9, PILE OF POO) and they can be diverse when doing it! Because the hard-working members of the Unicode consortium have been tirelessly slaving to ensure that you can use cutesy icons when communicating, but not on, you know, making it possible to actually write your name!
TL;DR Unicode jumped the shark with 7.0. It's hard to take this shit seriously any longer.
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@VulgarKitten said:
Thank you for your brilliant observation and critique about how to fix my mental issues, and for your dismissive, superior attitude.
The converse: if you don't believe that my advice will help fix your issues, then please avoid telling me as I'm conditioned to suggest solutions when people bring problems.
Not accusing you of foisting your problems on others, but I work in a field where people do this. And then, they don't listen to me or others when we're really trying to help them.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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@silentsophia said:
@Derp Yeah, but this is still no excuse for being a dick when you don't need to be.
Agreed. But bluntness is often taken as 'being a dick'. Just because I don't cater to the delicate flowers does not mean I'm being a dick. It means I have bigger things to worry about than if someone can 'handle' their own dumb choices being pointed out to them. Catering to that sort of behavior just encourages more of that sort of behavior.
