RL peeves! >< @$!#
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@Roz And maybe they should turn to that baby-pack that all mothers of 3-and-unders have, and get out those boobie covers. So feed your kid and manage to avoid others' "sense of awkwardness".
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@Glitch And sometimes babies throw a fuss at being smothered by a blanket because they're tiny monsters with like a level 9000 difficulty. Why are people so horrified by boobs?
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@Roz People aren't horrified by boobs, it's the exact opposite. People love boobs. Boobs may be nature's nectar for munchkins, but the rest of the time, they're sexual for a large percentage of the population. Until such a time as that is not the case, there will always be social tension in their baring.
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@Glitch Okay so maybe that percentage of the population should try to chill a little more instead of telling moms to go feed their kids in areas they deem "appropriate." The solution is normalizing the whole thing, not putting it in a closet.
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@Roz Not everyone in that population is going to demand a mother wander off somewhere private to breastfeed. I'm only saying it seems a bit intentionally obtuse to ignore the reason people react to it.
As for normalizing the whole thing? You mean the baring of breasts entirely or just during breastfeeding? Because I don't think it's the solution, or any solution at all, for the former and the latter still falls into that vastly smaller percentage of time when a woman breastfeeds in her lifetime.
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I think we should all support glitch's more boobies initiative. I know Litch didn't think it woudl be a sollution but how do we know until we try.
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@Glitch Not everyone will, but it's a pretty common difficulty mothers face when they're just trying to feed their kids. I know why people have the reaction, but my point is that that reaction is on them and not reason to tell moms they can't feed their kids certain places.
I'm not a mom, but I am a woman, and the percentage of my life I've had guys objectify my breasts is high enough that it's like -- what, sorry, my boobs are making you uncomfortable now? Yeah, well, guys have made me uncomfortable about them for years, so maybe you can suck it up a bit.
I specifically meant normalizing the act of breastfeeding, although I certainly think anywhere guys can go around topless, women should be able to. I live in NYC where that's specifically the law.
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@Roz said:
I specifically meant normalizing the act of breastfeeding, although I certainly think anywhere guys can go around topless, women should be able to. I live in NYC where that's specifically the law.
Interesting fact: In Texas the law for Indecent Exposure explicitly prohibits the display of "anus or genitals" for purposes of sexual gratification in a public place. Breasts and nipples of both sexes are not mentioned, and due to common female anatomy a woman literally would have to bend over while naked and spread her business to display the so prohibited area. Because of that a naked woman casually walking around in public cannot be charged with Indecent Exposure in Texas.
Guys still have to put something over their junk because nobody wants to see that. Seriously. And if they're showing if off in Starbucks they go to jail.
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@Silver said:
@Roz said:
I specifically meant normalizing the act of breastfeeding, although I certainly think anywhere guys can go around topless, women should be able to. I live in NYC where that's specifically the law.
Interesting fact: In Texas the law for Indecent Exposure explicitly prohibits the display of "anus or genitals" for purposes of sexual gratification in a public place. Breasts and nipples of both sexes are not mentioned, and due to common female anatomy a woman literally would have to bend over while naked and spread her business to display the so prohibited area. Because of that a naked woman casually walking around in public cannot be charged with Indecent Exposure in Texas.
Guys still have to put something over their junk because nobody wants to see that. Seriously. And if they're showing if off in Starbucks they go to jail.
A+ fun fact
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Breastfeeding is a natural function.
So is defecating and urinating. I don't want to see people do that in public either.
Keep your tittyballs in your shirts.
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@Admiral said:
Breastfeeding is a natural function.
So is defecating and urinating. I don't want to see people do that in public either.
Keep your tittyballs in your shirts.
Okay, guys can keep their shirts on at all times too, then.
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@Admiral said:
Keep your tittyballs in your shirts.
Stop ruining it for everybody. Stop being That Guy.
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@Roz said:
Okay so maybe that percentage of the population should try to chill a little more instead of telling moms to go feed their kids in areas they deem "appropriate." The solution is normalizing the whole thing, not putting it in a closet.
I would never tell a mother breast-feeding her kid in public to go elsewhere, but I also think doing so is gauche, given the availability of solutions which can put others who don't believe such behavior is acceptable at ease. And I say this as a parent of twins under the age of 2.
Incidentally, my partner, who bore them, never breast-fed our kids in public.
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Relevant? Just from today's news.
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Story Time:
I was in a Starbucks when a lady started breast feeding her kid, and an older guy got all bent out of shape over it and asked the barista to tell her to stop, and the woman behind the counter told him if he had a problem with her feeding her baby he could go wait in the bathroom until she was done.
A good laugh was had by most present, but it did draw even more attention to her, and she got kind of flustered and said something like "Okay, everybody can stop staring at my breast now." and the same barista told her that if she had a problem with people looking at her bare breasts, she could go bare it in the bathroom until she was done.
I put a tip in the jar and I wasn't even there to buy anything, just waiting for a friend, because that was fantastic.
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The worst horror-kid thing I've ever personally watched was a couple of years ago. A movie (I think Iron Man 2) had started a few minutes earlier when a child's mother walked in with a valet who I assume was a friend of hers since I could hear them talk in stage whispers. And talk. And talk, right at the door so there was also light coming in... at which point they unleashed the kid inside and left.
The boy, who looked to be around 5-6, probably couldn't even read subtitles and he just moved from free seat to sit, ran around going vrooooom vrooooom!, got tired and sat down in the steps, ran around some more, over and over again. It was so much fun for everyone involved.
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@HelloRaptor Right, see that's more to my point... If you are gonna have a case of the ass about someone looking at something you put out there, maybe don't put it out there.
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@Arkandel
I know I've mentioned this before, but for a while I went to a theater where you could ask at customer service for a call device. They only gave out a few per theater, but it had like four buttons on it, all of which would silently call someone to look in and respond as necessary.The buttons were:
- Phone/Pager
- Camera/Piracy
- Conversation/Disturbances
- Noisy Children
Yes, noisy children got their own button. A++. Sadly the seating sucks so we don't go there anymore.
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I'm going to say that breastfeeding in public is alright but don't get bent of someone looks. People look at people all the time but if you act hostile then it's on you. I feel the same about girls that wear really low cut things and then get all bitchy when you look at their cleavage. Damn, you called attention to it, I'm going to glance.
And, in closing, just don't be tacky.
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Misplaced loyalty. I was at my last job for 8+ years and loved it but at my current job people are getting laid off on a regular basis, the turnover is pretty impressive for its size. I'm relatively safe due to the nature of what I do but I've interest from elsewhere, and I'm feeling guilty just discussing it with a recruiter.
Rationally I know former coworkers came to work one day and got fired during the lunchbreak with zero warning so if management doesn't care why should I? And yet I do.