Posts made by Carex

@sunny

The court of public opinion...

You mean like a trial by jury? Courts of public opinion are the cornerstone of most modern justice systems.

Also I'm only talking about punitive actions not how to run the game.

@roz said in Let's talk about TS.:

@carex Seeing that staff is willing to engage in public humiliation doesn't increase trust and investment by players. It just tells them that staff will be willing to humiliate people, including them.

And it would keep those kinds of players away from the game in the first place.

What happens when you get the players who are serious issues but are also great at ingratiating themselves and forming shields of other players?

Ok, let's pretend that somehow this creeper creates a human shield of creeper-sympathetic players who protect each other from the ban, that means a majority of your player base wants to be creeping on each other.

People who don't want that kind of creeper RP would be informed by the votes to protect the creeper as to who these trolls are and avoid the problem people while the people inside the creeper's circle of friends would get what they want and keep playing.

Even in this highly unlikely situation where an army of trolls invades your game and become a majority, everyone would be better off by being more informed as opposed to banning the creepers one at a time and letting the others troll go on unexposed.

Even in this highly improbable, worse case scenario, you are still giving the players what they want which is the single most important thing you can do for your game's longevity.

If your goal is to keep your players engaged and playing, then this is one way do it. It's more effort than dictating justice by proclamation but it engages the will of the majority.

Give your players a justice system they are part of and your game will last longer with a more loyal player base.

@roz

Can you be more specific? Why is it a horrible idea?

@cobaltasaurus

This is slightly off topic but unilaterally banning someone for being a creeper seems like a bad idea. I would go with something more insidious.

Instead of just banning them, make a public show of the issue and take a vote on the matter. Let the players decide if a ban is appropriate. 99% of the time they are of course going to agree with you and ban the creep.

More importantly, if you publicly humiliate them before you ban them and make it the players choice then you deflect a lot of angst and accusations of being a dictator before they happen.

Make a Court Room off the OOC nexus where players can read the logs of people under temporary punitive suspension and vote on permanent bans.

Create a thin layer of democracy and let the people choose how to deal with the issues then you are absolved of all accusations of wrongdoing.

Also this will create emotional investment by the players. If they feel like they have power over the outcome of the game, that they can bring justice to issues, that can be a powerful psychological hook.

@tempest

I have been deathly ill for several weeks where is this game that opened and stole half FC's players? Do you think they will stay there? I had just found Fallcoast before I got sick but the people there seem very nice.

What is this new game's address? I'll check it out and see what all the fuss is about.

@cobaltasaurus

In any society where the blood line a woman comes from is more important than the contributions she, as a person, can make it always ends up that way.

Arranged marriages, selling young women to old men for dowry. Look at biblical laws where a woman is property and if you rape her you have to buy her. Look at even modern times in America where child brides are legal and common in several modern states because poor people want to marry their kids into a better life. Nazis had pure breeding programs. Slave owners in America would buy slaves just for breeding with strong male slaves to make a better slave. The guy who started Kellog's cereal company tried to get government to implement a eugenics program to enhance white purity.

The very words we use to describe women are based on the historic ideals that they are only for breeding. Vagina is from the Latin for sheath because she only exists as a place to sheath your sword.

Every culture which has ever been focused on blood lines or "purity" has ended in women being breeding equipment. You don't have to go that way of course, but historically, that's what humans normally do as what each woman can contribute to society becomes less valuable than what their male offspring might bring to the table.

It really doesn't matter how smart, wise, or powerful a woman is because she can make more people. If she is powerful, people will demand she make more powerful people. It's just a matter of survival. If you have a good thing, make more of it.

It's cool. Perhaps I am too jaded but I have always followed the axiom "Getting power is easy. Keeping it is the hard part." so any roadblock between upstarts and the establishment seems logical.

It also depends on your definition of power. If magic is way more important to the nobles than control over the citizens and economy then they'll welcome newcomers that they can manipulate. Fuck the plebs. No magic no value.

Also, just so you are aware, you are building a total rape factory. Your society is going to devolve to the point that women are property and only useful for making babies unless they have magic then they are only useful for making noble babies.

@sunnyj
I agree. Quality wins every time because it attracts players and keeps them there.

@tempest

What is the address for the game that is open now?
Is it the same basic theme? Rules and so forth?

@pyrephox

You could also create a secondary class of nobility by calling the newly seeded "Blessed" and make them part of a church structure. You go from commoner to priest to noble if you are lucky.

Economically and socially it's really, really, a bad idea to leave outcast nobles alive. If you prune someone you need to remove all ties from them. Have a ritual of forgetting that erases them from all records and burns their belongings.

They need to not only be treated as if they are dead but as if they had never existed in the first place. If you can get away with it just kill them.

If you leave even a hint of noble ties then they have kids those kids might form a rebellion later. You can't have kids popping up taking portions of wealth or land unexpectedly because you let some pruned seedling walk away with an untapped legacy. It's horrible for the stability of the nation.

If you want to incorporate people moving from being a commoner to a noble then have multiple tiers of nobility. A titled and untitled nobility perhaps.

One tier that can inherit land and one that can only be awarded land by a higher noble. Once someone is awarded land they get a title and their offspring can then inherit land.

You don't want just any old commoner who wins the genetic lottery gaining political power. You need a system of gate-keeping.

@sunnyj
Easy solution: What makes Blood different from the other game?
Answer that and players will know which they want to choose.

@shelbeast

Ninjas never get the recognition they deserve.

There was a guy who went on lots of WoD games and made mages just to mind control people into sex. This was that same guy according to rumor. Staff had made it too difficult to rape people in person because he was getting tracked down and almost dying so he just did it over page using dice rolls in such a way that no one would ever know ICly it was him. Jacking off and shooting a load across space and time into a woman's vag, apparently not vulgar.

Rumor had it he got his comeuppins later though because he had been using life magic to guarantee the pregnancy and that left a resonance so when he did it to a feral with awareness they hunted him down as a pack and made him eat his balls.

@shelbeast
Yeah, never make a character who isn't sexual. It's like it's a challenge for them. I made a weaver drone. No sex drive. (It was basically Sheldon)

Got enchanted by a mage and mind controlled by a demon to want sex.
They wanted to "fix" me.

Agreed.

Another pet peeve about TS is mages. I was dating a girl ICly when a mage, who literally met her at a party and thought she was cute, used Mind/Corr/Life to impregnate her from across town. Just out of the blue. She had met the guy once for all of three poses. Staff said he could do it so we rolled with it but it was fucked up and she stopped playing that character about a week later.

Funny side note: I was once a werewolf dating a kinfolk who was really popular and everyone thought we were the cutest couple. She wanted to have kids and stuff and I was all down with that but she got pregnant then just kept having sex.

She got even more horny at the idea of being pregnant. I actually asked some of my pack mates to bang her so I could have some peace and quiet. She was "secretly" having an affair with my best friend thinking she was getting away with something and it barely made a dent in her appetites.

I ended up trying to die a heroic death so I could roll another character and rejoin my pack without being attached to her and the fucking dice just kept saving my life. Over and over and over I survived the most insane things. I ended up gaining rank for slaying Wyrm beasts and exposing corruption of the land because the game would not let me die.

@three-eyed-crow
I guess I could just be mature enough to break up with them but it just seems so rude and insulting. Also it feels kind of silly to say, "I'm more than a penis you know!" there just never seems to be a way to do it without it being super-awkward.

Do you guys ever get TS burn out?

Frequently, when I'll get into a IC relationship with someone. We bang, they love it, then it's all that happens.

I try and get to know their friends, but they won't introduce me. I try and go out of the house with them, I try and do dates and have romantic outings but it's almost always something that the other person is just enduring until they to get back to the fucking.

I try to expand my characters social circles outside of the bedroom but usually I end up isolated and eventually I'll just stop logging in.

I think if I start playing again I might be bad at TS just to avoid the same thing happening again. I enjoy the social aspects of TS but I don't want it to be everything there is and for some reason that happens to me a lot.

@theonceler

I'm not saying it was a bad movie. It was good and I enjoyed it. I'm just saying, objectively, it's not a movie people should be pointing at as a liberal ideal just because it's got black people in it. It's suuuper racist and the character of Black Panther is a shit person who has to learn basic human empathy through the course of the movie.