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@bobotron said in Active Modern Day Games?:

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The comics made it clear that ANY Girl who would be a Potential became a Slayer at that 'coming of age' point.

That's less interesting (to me) but okay.

@wizz said in Potential Buffy Game:

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The whole concept of the Senior Partners as the kind of evil you can't even really fight, but you try because what else can you do is just....HRRRRRGGHHHHSOGOOD

*pain too real because good thing *

RIGHT. The Senior Partners to me feel like the actual legit inheritors of The First, because like it, they cannot be ended, they simply will continue to be.

The First can't die because good can't exist without evil; and the Senior Partners can't die because evil needs to be fought.

It's cray-cray shit, man.

LIKE OKAY

The First is the grandaddy of all Evil. It's scary, yeah. It has a lot of goons that are powerful, yeah. But it's not practically powerful right now and its army is kind of ehhhh.

If you talk to Illyria or Glory about The First, they'd go, "geez, that old geezer? i don't even wanna run into it, it just goes on and on about the good ol' days", and Jasmine's like the capitalist grandchild that is legit on non-speaking terms with the First on because she used all the things the First taught her and then totally dumped it in a home.

That's the First.

It's big. It's scary. But it's old and kind of tired and everything it does will be heinous if its wheelchair (the Hellmouth) doesn't get a stick shoved through it (Spike) by some upstart kids (Buffy and the Scoobies).

Glory and Jasmine got way closer to totally fucking everything up than the First (even if the First took Sunnydale with it).

I think the main difference here is that both Glory and Jasmine, for example, died. The First--well, did it really? No. Probably not. It's still there. Being annoying and old and shaking its cane at the Wolf, the Ram, and the Hart. "Poop on your own lawn!" it says, while some PTB-appointed champion ala Drogyn changes its metaphorical diapers.

@wizz said in Potential Buffy Game:

@coin said in Potential Buffy Game:

she was old when the Wolf, the Ram, and the Hart were bugs to be stepped on.

Can I just geek out for a second and say that to this day if I watch an episode, every time a character talks about them individually like that I still get crazy chills? God damn Angel was a great show.

Yesssssssssss, same. I think it's because at least two of them are so innocuous and one is literally often used as a symbol of purity (Hart) that to have them used so viscerally as the epitome of modern evil is just... yikes.

@wizz said in Potential Buffy Game:

@coin Yeah, and the First Evil is presumably at least as big a deal as the Senior Partners. But that's why I said her villains tended to be smaller scale.

I would say The First is like... like... the originator of the company that eventually became Wolfram & Hart. Like, I mean, The First is technically even older and worse than Illyria and she was old when the Wolf, the Ram, and the Hart were bugs to be stepped on.

It's just that, like, the First is kind of old and tied to its ways (and maybe even mystically tied to a certain type of function).

There's a lot of theorycrafting one can do with all that.

@wizz said in Potential Buffy Game:

You should spend some time developing the themes and scale you want as well as the setting. Picking an interesting place is important, but how involved are the various powers at play, and how zany are things going to get?

Like, going back to the whole Buffy vs Angel thing, Buffy was largely agnostic about a lot of the Higher Power stuff? They maybe nudged events here and there, but Buffy herself didn't really seem to care either way about them and her villains tended to be very small scale and personal (until the finale with the First Evil anyway); she just wanted to grow up and live her life. Angel's entire life was constantly screwed with by the Powers That Be, and his whole thing was destiny and fate and ancient prophecies and his villains tended to be (on the whole) huge and impersonal.

Where is the game going to land on that scale? Are there "tiers" of cosmic involvement that players can opt into and out of? Stuff to think about, maybe!

Well, I mean, Glorificus was pretty big-time, but they curbed her so well within her season that I see how it works the way you're saying it, yeah.

I mean, she was basically more or less around the same scale as Illyria.

@quinn said in Potential Buffy Game:

And Monster of the Weeks are always popular, even if there's no monster and everyone just gets to go play a prank on a rival school.

And you make the poor nerdy werewolf have to save the jackass NPC jock from the monsters. >:/

(I have a weirdly vivid memory for some stuff. Yikes.)

@quinn said in Potential Buffy Game:

@ixokai I staffed Devilshire for three years. People would stack things (or try) that created ridiculously overpowered characters. We ended up making lots and lots of house rules about it and at one point rewrote a ton of the offered packages. Some of the pre-built demons were ridiculous. People were always finding ways to try to start with Dex 9 or 10. Or have that character that couldn't take damage or be killed. And they were very creative with how they tried to do it! We would think we wrote or ruled out ways to abuse the system and then we'd get another crazy app.

It was ridiculously easy. Personally I just sort of surrounded my squishy character with those people, but yeah.

@arkandel said in Potential Buffy Game:

@coin said in Potential Buffy Game:

It would come with an actual compendium of demons and other monsters; it comes with lore; it comes with an actual system (the cinematic unisystem) that is built to simulate play in a "cinematic" fashion so you can do shit like what happened in the show.

I suppose what made Buffy special to me (perhaps due to my own age when I first watched it) is that everything was placed at a school and the characters were figuring their shit out - supernatural, dating, sexuality, family, career - at the same time... all while monsters tried to eat them.

I'm not saying it can't be done with older characters, just that it'd probably feel very similar to other kinds of Hunter-y games then. Different setting, sure, and the lore could make all the difference, but it'd still be quite a lot like those.

Watch some angel and the later seasons of Buffy (like 6-7) for non-school related hijinks in the Buffyverse, I guess?

@arkandel said in Potential Buffy Game:

@zombiegenesis Okay, I'll start!

What differentiates a Buffy game from any other supernatural game if PCs can be anything? I don't mean that as criticism but as a point of discussion; what makes it stand apart compared to, say, a Hunter game?

It would come with an actual compendium of demons and other monsters; it comes with lore; it comes with an actual system (the cinematic unisystem) that is built to simulate play in a "cinematic" fashion so you can do shit like what happened in the show.

@zombiegenesis said in Potential Buffy Game:

I figured I'd open this here so it has it's own thing instead of derailing the other thread. A lot of this is contingent on me looking at my Buffy code and finding that it's usable but...

I'm thinking of opening a Buffy game. That's about as far as I've gotten with the idea but here are the seeds I've been pondering...

1: Put it in a big city that hasn't been explored in the Buffy-verse(so not L.A.)
2: Have it be in real time since the show went off the air. So it's been 15 years since all the potential slayers were made active.
3: No limit on slayers aside from them having to be women. Given the time period since all slayers were made active this is all the current generation has known, Buffy may even be a legend at this point (ala Luke Skywalker).
4: No comic continuity. Keep it strictly TV canon.
5: No real limits on what PCs could be. If it was in the Buffy/Angel core rules I think it should be supported on the game.

And that's it for now. Those are the ideas I'm thinking about running with. Thoughts? Ideas? Thanks!

I think you need someone to write up some good, chronologically sound news files about what happened post-Angel finale, and I think you need to figure out the absolute shit-show that is balance when it comes to "quality packages", etc. Honestly I wouldn't allow more than one package per person, for starters.

@admiral said in General Video Game Thread:

@coin https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483

I've got a friend who worked at Riot as a programmer. She described the behavior of people at Riot as being the 'norm' in various companies she's worked at, though not to the same degree as at Riot. The only one she never described in that way was EA, which was described as basically 'faceless workers in cubicles, grinding out their existence.'

Ah. yeah. I have a friend who worked at Riot for a while. She was not pleased.

@arkandel said in Active Modern Day Games?:

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I don't know how the others were done, but basically Devilshire was a small town with way too much magic in it and two Slayers designated to patrol it (legit it was just two slots for slayers).

In this era of "omg you can't limit slots whaaaaa" I don't know how people would do it other than, you know, maybe just no one gets to be a slayer.

Yeah, that was one of my questions. Also can PCs be Slayers? What can PCs be? And what about themes - is this a coming-of-age thing centered around highschool drama with monsters in the mix or would the usual former sniper/marine concepts be a thing?

The latter, in general, though from what i remember the age limit was lowered to like, 16, for high school-related fun.

@cobaltasaurus said in Active Modern Day Games?:

@coin Or anyone can be-- since one of the things the show ended with was Willow awakening every potential slayer ever. . Which was how the couple of Buffy Games I've played on had done it.

Well, she awkwned all Slayers ALIVE. That was twenty years ago. There's plenty of 18 year old girls who were born after. I don't know if that means they start awakening when other slayers die or what, I haven't read the comics.

That said, everyone being a Slayer would be insane lol.

@arkandel said in Active Modern Day Games?:

@sunny said in Active Modern Day Games?:

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Please Buffy? Please? This is me making big eyes.

I'd love Buffy too but I have so many questions about how it'd be done, MUSH-wise.

I don't know how the others were done, but basically Devilshire was a small town with way too much magic in it and two Slayers designated to patrol it (legit it was just two slots for slayers).

In this era of "omg you can't limit slots whaaaaa" I don't know how people would do it other than, you know, maybe just no one gets to be a slayer.

@kanye-qwest said in General Video Game Thread:

Riot games sucks and it's really disappointing to me, because I put a lot of hours and a lot of money into their game. If things I love could stop letting me down that would be great.

What'd they do now?

There's a reason I refuse to put money into that game.

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