The idea of WoD roster characters is only slightly less humorous to me than the idea of WoD roster players.
"Looks like 'person who makes the same rich guy Benedict Cumberbatch character' just freed up for application. Just a reminder: We still have three appable 'barely literate bdsm rp fetishist' player slots open."
@faraday No I'm just tired and theorizing.
It sounds feasible to only apply IPv6 to internal devices and then use NAT to route to them? I dunno. I'm tired and possibly over complicating things.
The router itself would have an external IP address as the focal point of connections exiting the network. Each device on the network typically would have a device on it assigned one of the typical internal IP addresses 192.168.x.x, but I was trying to brainstorm why a connection would believe it didnt have an ipv4 address and here is where my brain went...
I dunno. Like I said I'm tired and was wondering why a device wouldn't have any sort of ipv4 recognized address (if even to route to) because a hard locked IPv6 config seems like a nightmare. There are typical simple home networking configs, then there are "dickin around with the network" configs.
@faraday Yeah to be more clear I meant for the MU client connections. The web portal connection would make port22 a less likely culprit, but if MU client fails to connect, as well, it could be related to a block.
Still find it weird that no IPv4 exists. Forgive me I'm sitting in bed pretty tired here, but could the router be providing all internal devices an IPv6 address and then trying to use some sort of NATing that's confusing the whole thing? Definitely sounds like whoever set up that router/network tightened up security a bit.
I could never connect to MUs at my favorite coffee house because disabling incoming telnet connections on port 22 is standard firewall security these days. Telnet is a massive security risk.
The IPv6 thing is weird. I'd suspect that first and if it still fails I would suspect a telnet block.
Someone once said they wanted to open a Tokyo Ghoul-themed game. That should have happened. That woulda been fetch.
@Coin Here's hoping God collected him using his feet rather than his hands, right? (Gallows humor reference to the infamous "Hand of God" goal)
Actual Cyberpunk
Battletoads
Cows of Moo Mesa
Captain Power
Farscape
@HelloProject Connection has a subjective focal point. I get the same stuff, too. I know I have people around me all of the time but there are times where I feel that maybe I'm not as close to them as I used to feel I was. When that happens I know a lot of it is in my own head, so don't let it be a thread into a deeper depression. It's totally normal-type feeling for the "quarantine era".
Right up to quarantine I was a house party every month, in-person gaming, coffee house hangouts after work. I'm a social motherfucker, so having that go from 5-10 things going on a week to not seeing these people for months at a time really laid into me. I was arranging movie hangouts over Discord and noticed that when I'm not driving it no one really speaks up and tries to organize it on their own, which made me feel somewhat annoyed; I get sick of being default "MC". But motivation these days is low and depression is high.
So don't be too hard on yourself.
@HelloProject Online gaming (not MU but stuff like Among Us and other social games) have been good throughout quarantine. Plus they require mics so there's more of a sense of human contact.
@Lotherio said in The Future is Now:
Secondary to this, if they opened up the monolith and it had the 6K year old texts that Joseph Smith was looking for to mark the promised land, I would not be surprised by that either.
"Oh god please please please dont let this thing be a Mormon play to fabricate some miracle bullshit."
"Well, that's definitely more creative than campaigns every 3 years to liquidate your kids' college savings accounts to donate to the church because "The Rapture is seriously happening this time, we promise", so I gotta applaud that a little bit. Well done."
@Aria said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
@Ghost said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
For fuck's sake my car doesn't have an extended warranty. whyyyyyy
'Cause you didn't sign up for one when you bought it, I'd guess?
You can add them after the fact, though. You can buy them at a dealership for whatever make your car is.
No I just keep getting that robo-dial about my car's extended warranty, in which there is none. Easily 2x/day at this point.
For fuck's sake my car doesn't have an extended warranty. whyyyyyy
Friend's wife and fellow D&D group member has gone from ER to ICU to ventilator and sedation. Double pneumonia. Her Covid experience is going the wrong direction. Fuck this virus.
I've already got one memorial to attend after this nightmare ends so please do not go through airports unless it is absolutely necessary. Do not go to bars and restaurants unless absolutely necessary.
It's been made pretty clear by now that this virus doesnt care how little you're afraid of it. Dont fuck around and find out.
These Fremen have become water-fat and weak. Mua'dib's name is no blessing. It is a curse.
Not that I'd want someone to OUT themselves (seriously, please don't), but I don't know of anyone who actually works in the psychiatric community who plays in these games. I feel like a therapist telling someone to go out in the wild in this hobby to roleplay through something as a proxy sounds like a really risky thing to tell a client to do given the pitfalls that can come with other players. IMO I don't think a therapist would immerse themselves in this hobby, regardless. Stuff like tennis and supporting your local sports team is a lot more healthy per dose by percentage.
100% please...never roleplay something personally cathartic to address your RL issues. 150% never do so without consent of the other player. If player consents, please refer to 100% don't.
@insomniac7809 said in Emotional bleed:
If I don't feel things when I play a video game, it isn't a video game I'm going to be interested in.
I don't like this approach, and I'll expound as to why: We're not talking about just "feeling" things.
People like going to the circus because it makes them feel something. People like watching horror movies because being scared can be fun. People like Thanksgiving dinner because it makes them feel something. People like eating ice cream because there's fulfillment in it. People like putting dollars into the claw grabber machines knowing all the while it's a ripoff because it makes them feel something. There is not one thing that anyone does so in life because there is zero feeling/gratification in it. We're not robots performing tasks; every action taken is applied to FEELING something.
So I feel like this approach to the question of "emotional attachment and bleed" when it comes to online gaming and the emotional turmoils that come with that type of obsession shouldn't be written up as "If I don't feel anything it wouldn't be worth it to begin with".
FEELING something isn't the same as actuating trauma through a hobby. It's not people like you that I'm concerned about when it comes to these games. People like you and I do (did) this stuff because there was juice in the squeeze, but there are others who squeeze until it hurts, and maybe a little bit of upset when the squeeze stops hurting. There are plenty of players in the hobby that approach it with a balanced eye, but when the hobby causes emotional bleed that leaps off of the keyboard and into the RL/OOC realm in ways that aren't "darn, the claw grabber didn't get the Popeye doll; better luck next time" we then enter the realm of where things on the other side of the keyboard can go wrong.
So in that light I personally don't think this conversation should go in that direction. Example being stuff like the times someone's RL mental health resulted in conversations about suicide as the direct result of things that were (or weren't) happening IC. I've been there. Others have, too.
I know it's been around for years, but I'm actually really liking "The Punisher" on Netflix.
I'd avoided it for a while because I was concerned that it might be a bit too Purge/OOORah/Tacticool/Don'tTreadOnMe. After swearing off Walking Dead because misery porn is just too much for me during a pandemic and all the social/political drama in life, I kept it at arm's length.
I was wrong. The Punisher makes it clear that the story of a soldier who wasn't proud of what he did in war, while suffering with PTSD, still stands for good things and doesn't support domestic terrorists as heroes. He's a tortured soul, but still a good man. The Punisher on Netflix is every bit the same Frank Castle who sneered at cops wearing Punisher logos. I'm enjoying it a lot.
@Pyrephox said in Emotional bleed:
I build characters with an eye to be good delivery pieces for the RP I want to have, not really to convey my personality or values into the game world. I admit that it absolutely bothers me when I realize that someone else isn't doing that, and instead has IC morals/values that are very tightly wed to their OOC values.
To build off of that....
I always kind of daydreamed that if many players took my list approach (see previous response) then the feedback coming would be really great for people aspiring to write/build characters because the feedback would be bound in the player's ability to create and convey a character rather than a potential critique on the personality/wishes/dreams of the character they're trying to RP those through, if that makes sense? I've had the pleasure of having RP partners who set clear lines on IC/OOC bleed and the feedback in terms of story ideas, writing ability, character design, humor, plot twists, etc was very fulfilling feedback that I could apply to self-confidence on a creative level without exposing my own personal RL issues, etc on because it was about crafting something and not a quasi-IC version of Second Life.
90% of everyone in the hobby is still really a stranger to me, even if I'd Rped with them dozens of times, and I've never been comfortable having that much impact on anyone's emotional well-being based on which decisions the character makes in my little amateur puppet show.
@theznar said in Is this a really dumb theme?:
@Ghost Thanks! I just needed someone else to be like...that sounds cool! The internet has jaded me.
If you rock themes like "WW2 pilots", jazz, 1940s/50s fashion, the dawn of the era of television, radio shows, etc I think it's a great idea, especially if you bend things to break down sexism and racism walls from the real world 40's/50's. Female pilots, black officers over white soldiers, etc.
@Pyrephox said in Emotional bleed:
@L-B-Heuschkel To some extent, there are several different issues:
People who use "have some ooc/ic separation" to be dicks in a way that would STILL BE A DICK even if we were sitting around playing cards or a board game. Like, rubbing someone's face in a loss, targeting another player to ruin their experience, mocking how someone plays - being upset about these things says nothing about one's ic/ooc separation, and trying to hide behind "oh, you just don't have good boundaries" is dumb. Bad sportsmanship is the center of it.
People who use "everyone gets attached to characters" to be dicks in a way that is manipulative and creepy, and yeah, would still be a dick if you were playing, idk, Warhammer tabletop or something, and decided that your faction was objectively the best and threw temper tantrums whenever you lost. They use their "attachment" to demand, overtly or covertly, that the game and other players conform to that attachment - I think my character is awesome, so I demand that you treat him/her like they're awesome, or my heart will break and it's all your fault.
I'm someone that tried to maintain a pure separation between IC/OOC, so I'll chime in here.
As someone who has been threatened, threatened with self-harm, yelled at by players for their emotional/marital health, had to wriggle out of uncomfortable RL attachment issues, been told "I love you" out of nowhere, been the target of trying to breach RL separation with promise of sexual favors, repeatedly dumped into situations that were I need you to do this for my RL needs, etc etc etc....
I came to the belief that at all times the best policy was to make it clear the following:
I came to that point because, frankly, I was sick and tired of people accusing me of off the wall shit or make me feel like their emotional health depended on my attendance and/or action through a PC. Which, I'm sympathetic to people who are at that place emotionally, but the only way to keep myself sane and healthy was to accept that if anyone is like that towards PCs in the hobby, it's probably not because of one player's existence; if it wasn't me getting that attachment it'd be someone else next week (or maybe I wasn't the only one getting that level of heat at the same time).
I think that list above is healthy, sets fair boundaries, and is a good mantra to follow. IC/OOC separation avoids bleed, and I think it needs to be a practice (like meditation or yoga). After all, plenty of actors have mental/emotional issues because they committed too much to a character. Why should amateur "roleplayers" on the internet be any different?