In other, late news, the new Star Wars movie is pretty alright. Not great, but given the troubles surrounding the production, I think it did the best it could. I was slightly confused by some of the visual metaphors, but I look forward to the inevitable video essays that will explain what I missed; whether they were actually intended to indicate something or were just supposed to be visually pleasing. The cast is great, the action is inventive, and there's some good signs they intend to move the property forward rather than jog in place.
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RE: Good or New Movies Review
@Derp said in Good or New Movies Review:
Maybe it's intentional.
In the first place, I do not care about a person's intentions when compared to the outcomes of their actions. If you only accidentally hit me in the nose, does my nose stop bleeding once I know it wasn't your intention?
In the second place, it absolutely was intentional. The filmmakers cannot possibly be so bad at their jobs they don't understand the metaphors they themselves built from the ground up.
But most people aren't going into Frozen 2 looking for queer iconography.
It's not about what I'm looking for, it's about what the creators put in but either lacked the courage or couldn't obtain the permission to follow through on.
All things in time.
Then they can have my money and my support in time.
@Ganymede said in Good or New Movies Review:
The only reasonable conclusion to suit your position is that you believe a production company should either have complete, unabashed representation or none at all.
My position is, I don't think you should say you're an ally if you're not willing to do things an ally would do. Lying is generally a bad thing.
And I don't think that's a reasonable position to take.
I don't think it's reasonable to treat gay people like a taboo subject, but here we are.
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@TheOnceler said in Good or New Movies Review:
Despite the consensus here, any queerbaiting in Frozen 2 is subtle enough that the vast majority of adults seeing it would have no goddam idea what you're talking about.
I don't understand your point. Is this meant to justify or excuse it, or what?
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@Ganymede said in Good or New Movies Review:
Can you tell me what so offends you about queer bait?
I dislike being lied to, or at least being lied to by people who aren't willing to put in the effort to do it well.
I should probably say something more noble about the importance of representation, but that wouldn't be true. I don't like when people pretend to be my ally while refusing to back it up like they think I'm too stupid to notice how craven they are. I am stupid, but not so stupid I can't tell the difference between words and deeds, and it bothers me Disney thinks they can trick me into giving them money for saying they're doing things they aren't doing. That's all.
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@Arkandel said in Good or New Movies Review:
However pigs will fly probably fly before Disney (of all studios) makes an major animated movie aimed at kids whose protagonist is gay. I don't even think they have the guts to make any of the supporting cast, either.
I'm confused by your 'however.' Do you think I haven't noticed Disney will sell me a rainbow-colored Mickey Mouse cap during Gay Pride but won't give me a movie about a gay woman who has a girlfriend, or do you mean something else I'm overlooking?
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@Rinel said in Good or New Movies Review:
I guess it's just that I view bait as something like a lure instead of, idk, a stick of dynamite tossed into the water.
I consider it bait in that Elsa is coded very gay for people who know what to look for, and Disney is aware of but has refused to comment on Elsa's sexuality, meaning they want us to believe whatever we believe and to take those beliefs with us to the ticket stall. But they'll have her sing about figuring out she's not straight, they'll have her walk through tunnels and fog clouds both shaped like spread vaginas, they'll have a female character stroke her knee oops I mean stroke the scarf resting on her knee, they'll even have her sister say things like "I don't want to change who you are, I just don't want you to get hurt;" but they won't give her a girlfriend? Nah.
I mostly like this movie, a few nitpicks with pacing aside, but nah, it can fuck off with the queerbait.
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@Rinel said in Good or New Movies Review:
Is it even queerbaiting at this point
Yes. It's incredibly blatant subtext, but subtext is still all it is.
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RE: To OOC Room or Not to OOC Room (and Other Artifacts)
@Three-Eyed-Crow said in To OOC Room or Not to OOC Room (and Other Artifacts):
Why does any PC need more than 1 room, if the issue is grid bloat?
Wish fulfillment.
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So, uh, Elsa sure does enter a lot of tight tunnels while singing about having confusing new feelings that nevertheless seem right and make her tingle, huh?
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@Roz said in To OOC Room or Not to OOC Room (and Other Artifacts):
For the people who are fond of OOC rooms, I'm curious: what benefit or functionality do they provide for you that channels don't?
They're easier to opt into or out of than channels are (why do no two games have the same commands for turning a channel on, aliasing it, and/or turning a channel off?), and easier to tell who has opted into.
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I like OOC rooms because they provide a place and a format to get to know other players prior to playing with them. I'm at a point in my life where I don't want to play with randos. I want to play with people I like, and having a place to talk to others as well as to see how they treat others is a good way to gauge them.
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@mietze said in Model Policies?:
Is there any reason to have an OOC room where people can "talk out loud?" The more time I spend on games that do not have them the more I'm convinced that they have little purpose other than being yet another thing that is a drain on the game.
I like OOC rooms where I can talk to people because it allows me to engage in pleasantries* before asking about finding scenes and planning what the scene should be with my potential partner.
*not that anyone actually responds to pleasantries, which hurts my feelings, and is probably a net argument against an OOC room in which people can talk, but whatever, I have my rituals and I must follow them
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@Bad-at-Lurking said in Model Policies?:
Something about the OOC room brings out the inner mean girl (regardless of player gender) in some players, which is, for reasons I've never really been clear on, tolerated by fellow players and staff.
I think it's intrinsic to gaming. Once you start measuring
penisescharacter traits in objective terms, there becomes an incentive to value those measurements by comparison to others'. So someone who has a seventeen dice in their Fuckability dice pool on a WoD game, or someone on a superhero game has the ability to lift 100 tons, people will want to be sure their primary character shtick gets respected for how long, thick, and veiny it is. -
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@Ghost said in RL things I love:
In other news, I failed to convince my SO that the netflix show "V Wars" is the sequel to "The L Word".
Reminds me of a video review of God of War I saw once. "My boyfriend told me Freyja was from Milfheim and I believed him for way too long."
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@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:
I meant more: Sucks that these writers, game makers, content creators, etc worked so hard to keep it going, made so many awesome things that people loved, all on the assumption that Mr. Star Wars was on board with it...and then in the end he comes out and says "Yeaaaaaaah I dont know any of those guys and didn't read any of that. They dont count."
That makes more sense. Thanks for explaining. I still don't fully get it, though. I don't know any writers, so I'm pulling this from my ass, but I'd have thought the satisfaction would come from the fans (and the paycheck), not the acknowledgment of the guy who owns the land you're mining and who owns the rights to whatever you dig up.
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@Rinel said in Good or New Movies Review:
One of the best things the Morrowind community ever did for me was getting me to realize that "canon" is a spook.
I'm a comic nerd, so I have a lot of reason to question the value of canon and continuity. They mostly seem to be excuses to hate the thing you love by asserting your intellectual superiority over the people who produce the thing you pretend to love.
General "you" there, for the record.
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@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:
Which, yanno, sucks.
I don't fully get that. Like, if you enjoy the books, they're still on your shelf, right? If you like the comics, they're still in your longbox. George Lucas can't take them from you, or make you stop liking them, or make you think they didn't happen if you want to think they happened. The only thing anyone can do is not make movies about them, which they could still choose not to do even if the books and comics and whatever are canon; so how does it hurt anyone?
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@Arkandel said in Good or New Movies Review:
Look, there's a reason the Thrawn books were wildly acclaimed among the fanbase. Not everything in the EU was (a whole lot of it was uninspired shit) but the spirit of the original movies was perfectly captured in them, and the tale was incredibly enjoyable because of it.
I love the first three Thrawn books, but when you set aside how well-written they are, in spirit, they're fanfic filled with Zahn's trademark political intrigue, eidetic memory characters, devoted retainer characters, and logic puzzles with slightly inductive answers. I don't think it's fair to say they weren't leaving his mark on the property, especially since at least one of the characters has been folded into the rebooted franchise.
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@Ghost said in Good or New Movies Review:
@Arkandel God damn. That's bleak as fuck.
Well, yes. It's a series about war, told by someone who watched his generation destroyed by the Vietnam War; mostly about a boy who's King Arthur with the serial numbers filed off, and remind me how Arthur's story ends again?
It's always been a bleak series, and I feel like a lot of the backlash to the new trilogy is based on the audience resenting that they now have enough critical thinking skills to recognize the things they weren't savvy enough to notice as kids.
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@Rinel said in Good or New Movies Review:
Fight me.
You like a thing I like, but you don't like it as much as I like it, which means you're not just a bad person, you're my mortal enemy and I must never forget this injury you have done me which definitely doesn't mean my life is so low-stakes I can treat levels of performative devotion to a movie about space wizards as an enraging injustice.
Sleep with one eye open, you monster.