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    Posts made by HelloRaptor

    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Derp

      I mean, I personally love that kind of RP, but it's not everyone's bag by a long shot, and most people just bitch and whine if you don't let them throw dice at things and not have to figure out how it works.

      Oh shit, not bitching and whining. You're right, I'd forgotten what a compelling reason that is not to do something, my bad.

      And that differs from anyone else getting a legacy how? You meet the initial prereqs and request it, and then every time you hit the shit for a new attainment you, like, update your note or whatever. Generous amounts of handwavium are often applied to this, just like with learning arcana, because nobody wants to go through all of the arcane tedium of trying to figure out how to make it A Big Mystery.

      If somebody wants to throw dice at trying to figure out the exact requirements necessary to completely duplicate a Legacy without being initiated into it somehow, like I said, more power to them. Since you cut off the important bit for your quote, I'll restate it here:

      More specifically, they don't want to ICly 'copy' anybody, so the idea of doing any of the above would probably put them off way more than just asking them to come up with a variation on the same.

      They don't want to throw dice at it, even, because they-the-player just want their PC to have the Legacy. Why should they have to go experiment on a vampire to become a Tremere? Bah humbug. They'll just mysteriously become one, tada, because poof Legacy. Or want to get all of the exact same Attainments and shit, anyway.

      Which brings us back around to: Something being technically possible doesn't mean staff has to, or even should, allow it exactly as presented. Just like your ST has the right to say no to a Legacy that will raise the bar too high (which, to be honest, would be a pretty fucking hysterical pitch given what's in the official resources) and tone it down, they've got a right to say they aren't going to handwave you just waving your hands and poof, gaining access to the exact attainments of a Legacy you've got no insight into IC.

      There are a number of Legacies that even specifically call out the fact that if you're already a part of the Legacy and either can't or won't follow the proscribed methods for advancing that Legacy (such as because you've been ostracized, or it requires access to a specific item that you can't get your hands on, or whatever else) your only option is to split off into a variant Legacy by upping the Gnosis requirements by +1 and coming up with an alternative attainment. If that alternative attainment could just be the exact one you're being denied like it's no big deal, I'd assume that would get some mention, but it doesn't.

      Which means, yet again, that I'm not going to be too sympathetic to somebody bitching and whining because they're not getting exactly what they want, when they're being a tool about it to begin with.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Derp
      I guess if somebody wanted to go through the effort to figure out exactly what the soul marks (or whatever) are, exactly what they did to get their Legacy, and ICly try to deliberately duplicate every last exacting detail the way someone else did it, more power to them.

      I usually encounter it more as an OOC matter of Bob's player wanting XYZ and so handwavium applied, Bob does some nebulous shit and just happens to come up with that exact stuff, because he happened to OOCly see the writeup. More specifically, they don't want to ICly 'copy' anybody, so the idea of doing any of the above would probably put them off way more than just asking them to come up with a variation on the same.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Miss-Demeanor said:

      Back to the thread topic... does anyone else have issues where a headset keeps being deemed 'incompatible' with its usb port? Because no matter WHERE I place my wireless headset's usb, it keeps telling me it isn't USB 3.0 compatible, no drivers are available to update, and I cannot for the life of me make calls on Skype.

      Is this in Windows 10? I know for one of the computers I updated to 10 even though it said it found all the drivers I did have to actually go download motherboard drivers for a couple of things to actually work correctly. Maybe doublecheck for mobo or add-in card drivers specific to win10?

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Derp said:

      @HelloRaptor

      Well, it says any legacy that you don't meet the restrictions for you can be taught anyway, your teacher just loses a dot of status with whatever group is keeping it exclusive to themselves. I mean, technically, every legacy is exclusive to something, path, order, subgroup. Something. So there is no such thing as not being able to be inducted into a legacy if you find a teacher that's willing to teach you. The requirements listed in the legacy are just those that they commonly look for (i.e., the ones that a teacher won't take a status hit for teaching).

      I think you misinterpreted what I was asking. I'm not talking about someone teaching you a Legacy you don't have the Path/Order/whatever for, I'm talking about:

      Bob's player wants Bob to be a Legacy Superdude, but the only Legacy Superdude is Dude himself. Dude is unwilling to induct/teach Bob his Legacy, so Bob is out of luck.

      Technically Bob doesn't need shit from Dude, because by the technical reading of the Legacy creation rules, Bob can create a Legacy of his very own, and because there's no rules against it, it could just duplicate Dude's Legacy in every possible way, except that the Gnosis requirements would be one higher. Bonus points if Bob-the-character doesn't even know the exact specifics of Dude's Legacy and the copypasta is 100% purely OOC and Bob is just ICly lucking into it.

      Despite technically correct being the best kind of correct, I'd still frown at somebody doing that.

      Edit: Your previous post seemed to indicate that doing that was not only technically possible, but mentioned in the books as a thing-that-gets-done-no-big-deal, and I didn't recall seeing that be the case.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Derp
      Does it actually explicitly call out being able to exactly copy another Legacy, one you can't get inducted into, as a thing? Or are you just extrapolating from the rules on creating your own Legacy technically allowing you to?

      I acknowledged that the latter was true, but I don't recall seeing the former. It's been a long time since I looked at it. And like I said, I wouldn't say no to getting something very much like it, but I'd feel a direct copy on an OOC level would just be a type of cheese I'd find unpalatable.

      I do get where you're coming from, though. I feel much the same way about people coming up with 'secret' spells that they then want to pitch fits about other people 'coming up with' via creative thaumaturgy. I can see not wanting them to be able to buy a rote you came up with if they don't have the means of making that rote themselves, but spellcasting is basically just clever ideas, and you don't have a patent on clever ideas.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Misadventure said:

      PCs are always special, I thought?

      Like most rules of thumb, that doesn't need to get applied completely without any sense of restraint. As I said:

      I wouldn't flat out say no, mind, but I'd probably ask that they change some shit up rather than just duplicating an IC Legacy (especially one they had no real insight into IC) word for word because they OOCly saw something they liked.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Coin said:

      @HelloRaptor said:

      @Miss-Demeanor said:

      AT&T has an option for unlimited data, too. So it isn't just T-Mobile. Pretty sure Sprint has something like that as well.

      So @Ark is just crazy. Crazy!

      Or he doesn't live in the States... so maybe it's different.

      Eu não entendo o que você está dizendo, você poderia explicar?

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Miss-Demeanor said:

      AT&T has an option for unlimited data, too. So it isn't just T-Mobile. Pretty sure Sprint has something like that as well.

      So @Ark is just crazy. Crazy!

      Also, could somebody else running Windows 10 try to use google maps? I'm too lazy to go check one of my other machines, but when I load it here the map comes up, but as soon as I put an address in and search all the map portion of the screen goes black. The various google map gadgets and options and stuff in the overlay are there, the map is just blacked out.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Thenomain
      I guess it was more just the most immediate example I had of there being an unlimited data plan for smartphones, which Ark seemed to be indiating wasn't a thing.

      As to the service, I don't really leave Atlanta much. It worked fine from California, and I've got a friend who goes back and forth from Canada regularly who says it works fine when she's up there as well, but I'm sure that's not the case everywhere.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Arkandel

      The player-made Legacies on TR at some point Legacies straight out of the books were a terror with some of the most powerful spells picked as reflexive, free Paradox-free effects (and that's Mage, so they were really potent).

      Fixed that for you. As somebody who had a Legacy that routinely got whined about by some folks, this is a pretty bullshit complaint. While I realize your literal phrasing is just stating that they were potent, it's an echo of a common complaint. 📃

      Given that the books include Legacies that let you do shit like sit in your rocking chair on your porch while engaging in paradox-free transmutation of energy and matter on a large scale at a range of twenty-one miles while perfectly seeing across the entire distance, oh and you can also teleport anywhere in that range, or ones that give free reflexive teleportation, or a host of other truly crazy shit, I didn't see anything (in mine or others) custom Legacies that even reached the bar for Legacies, let alone raised it.

      So after they got them, campaigned for the Legacies to remain exclusive to them alone.

      I can't speak for others, but my character developed his Legacy in game. He was literally the only person with that Legacy. I was not adverse to inducting other Thyrsus into it, but it was not a Legacy that existed 'out in the wild'. There was even a note saying as much included in the job submission for the writeup that went on the wiki, which was approved, staff just screwed up when they were formatting it for the wiki and didn't copy anything below a certain point, and then other staff let somebody else start with it without even looking into it. A simple glance at my +notes would have shown I was picking it up at the +1 Gnosis requirement that meant it wasn't picked up elsewhere.

      @Derp

      Someone else can come and make that very same legacy at +1 Gnosis costs, just like they did.

      While this is true on a purely technical level, as a staffer I'd probably look at it with a pretty critical eye if someone tried to do that. There are Legacies that are explicitely never taught to anyone outside of a particular group, which make a point of what 'carefully guarded secrets' they have, and others that are noted to only be possible through learning them from a particular item or by exposure to blah blah blah entity. All of which becomes moot if you can just exactly duplicate another Legacy because your player thinks that shit is cool. Even if it does cost you more.

      I wouldn't flat out say no, mind, but I'd probably ask that they change some shit up rather than just duplicating an IC Legacy (especially one they had no real insight into IC) word for word because they OOCly saw something they liked.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Arkandel

      If only phone companies offered infinite data plans... but they don't.

      Whaaa? Maybe I misunderstand the comment here, but I know plenty of folks who are on T-Mobile and get unlimited data. There can theoretically be some throttling if you've gone over 21gb and are engaged in heavy data usage at a time and place where others are doing the same, but several of the folks using it burn through more than that in downtown Atlanta without noticing any significant speed reduction, so I dunno how bad it really is. From the accessibility page linked there it doesn't seem like it's an automatic slowdown, just prioritization based on that 21gb data point if there's a lot of competing traffic just then.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Thenomain

      A "no you", HR? Really?

      A condescending bit of sarcasm remarking on how no matter how often you declare you've had enough, literally nobody except you believes you won't keep going, counts as a 'no you'?

      I feel like there's a bug in your code somewhere, and you should maybe report to the debugging station before you glitch out completely.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Magic: the Gathering

      @Coin said:

      @HelloRaptor said:

      @Arkandel said:

      @HelloRaptor How are they not canibalizing their own MTGO game with it? What's the major feature missing?

      I'm not sure what you're asking. Cannibalizing their ...whatnow?

      "What is better about the paid versions that make them not completely obsolete by the free versions?"

      Oh, I don't know. Like I said, I haven't played Magic: Duels, the one that just came out and is free. But... it's free. It costs absolutely nothing except some bandwidth and time to go check it out. So it seems like it'd be worth looking into for people who want a MTO game for PC.

      My impression is that the previous yearly releases were campaign-and-challenge-mode play first with multiplayer stuff tacked on, while the newer Duels thing is more focused on multiplayer stuff with some single player tacked on (practice matches against the AI, maybe challenges).

      If anybody really wants to wait that long, I'll probably finish up with the Magic 2015 campaign mode in a few days and load up the M:D free game to see what it's like, and post something here.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Magic: the Gathering

      @Arkandel said:

      @HelloRaptor How are they not canibalizing their own MTGO game with it? What's the major feature missing?

      I'm not sure what you're asking. Cannibalizing their ...whatnow?

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Thenomain

      Okay, now I'm playing

      It's cool, we know you never really stopped to begin with.

      (Thenomain:) illogic
      (HR:) There's no logical fallacies here
      <snip>
      They are not anything close to factual, and "not logical" is not "logical fallacy". It's just "wrong".

      ...sorry, was I supposed to just assume you couldn't keep track of your own posts? Did the space between my first line replying directly to the bit I quoted and the bit addressing you in general just... confuse you? Maybe this will help, leaving aside my poor grammar:

      (Thenomain:) Wow, this is so much fun, throwing logical fallacies around.
      (HR:)There's no logical fallacies here

      The one time I don't quote shit line by line and it gets you hung up in the most ridiculous way. You brought up logical fallacies, I disputed that any were in play. You might want to read for comprehension before berating me for thinking you said something you didn't say absolutely said.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Magic: the Gathering

      @Arkandel
      Hmmm. I dunno about Duels, but I seem to recall you're correct on the earlier Magic 201x titles. It may have been retroactively changed, but I know for sure in 2015 you've got a good bit of freedom. Some of it requires that you go through the Settings menu to uncheck things, as there are a few built in bits to help novice players (like automatically assigning the best land-to-spells/summons ratio), as well as turning off an option that keeps you from 'accidentally' targeting an enemy creature with a beneficial enchantment. You're legally allowed to do it but the game assumes you're making a mistake by default. Luckily the options can be changed on the fly while in a game, so I was able to target a couple of supercharged creatures with a +1/+1 lifelink enchantment since they had a rider about being sacrificed if they were the target of spells or abilities. ^_^

      Anyway, I haven't tried to get really into the deck building part of 2015 yet, other than tweaking the one I started with because I prefer to run all the way through campaign mode with a deck (then do it again with another) to see how it handles a wide variety of stuff. It LOOKS like it's pretty robust. I know I have a fuck ton of non-white/black creatures (playing a vampire-soldier deck) I haven't looked through.

      Again I can't speak for Duels, but it's newer than 2015 and SEEMS like it's aimed more at the multiplayer deckbuilding crowd, so... It's free to play, and you can earn all the cards by playing it claims, so no reason not to give it a try.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Arkandel said:

      @HelloRaptor I'm not aware of it happening on TR. It did on HM (I remember people freaking out in the VampSphere about some Mage who was handing theirs out to Sleewalkers attached to bloodsuckers - but don't ask for names, it's been too long).

      I'm generally of the opinion that a couple of assholes shouldn't ruin it for everybody else, no matter how often that seems to be the case. >_>

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Magic: the Gathering

      @Arkandel
      It's not free (sorry @Coin) but all of the Magic: Duels of the Planeswalkers games on Steam have been pretty good, and you can unlock all the decks and cards without paying anything by playing through the campaigns, I believe. I have the 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015 releases, and I think they only cost like $10 each. I've easily gotten more than $10 of entertainment in playing through all their campaign modes alone. I thiiiiink they might allow for multiplayer for duels, but I haven't really tried. They're all really slick and have a ton of cards.

      • Magic 2012
      • Magic 2013
      • Magic 2014
      • Magic 2015

      There's also Magic: Duels (here's your free one, @Coin) which is also a wotc product, but I haven't tried playing it yet (I'm still working on clearing out the 2015 campaign mode) but it's purportedly a full on officially licensed Magic game made (I think) primarily for multiplayer duels and such, so you could check that out on Steam.

      Edited with links and a correction on Duels.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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    • RE: Rewards in WoD

      @Arkandel

      A common example includes people making magical items, paying the XP costs from throwaway characters then handing them out to their friends (with whom they play as their 'real' PCs).

      While this was brought up as a doomsday scenario, I was unaware of anyone actually doing this, at least while I was handling relics. Who actually did it?

      @Coin

      I need to actually finish writing the guidelines for this stuff on Eldritch, but essentially, if you give someone else an item, they have to spend XP for it, yes.

      As long as the first person gets their xp back, I guess, under sanctity of merits or whatever. Double dipping is pretty lame.

      @Tempest

      That's one glaring flaw that is easily fixed, even though I imagine it'd spawn whining. Throw in some BS houserule about the XP spend representing the artifact 'attuning' to the user or something.

      Or you could just not worry about it. You don't really see people scrambling to fix the zomgsoglaring cheatery (sarcasm, yes) of one person with Resources buying a gun and giving it to someone without. Or staff telling them they can't because the recipient doesn't have the Resources to purchase it themselves. 😛

      In my experience it was a lot of concern over very little actual problem. There wasn't some vast underground market of throwaway item creators who never roleplayed, just churning out stuff to their alts, or even for other peoples alts until they ran low on XP and recycled over to a new item creator char with a fresh start (and xp catchup), which was the doomsday scenario proposed that somehow never materialized.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Windows 8 & 10 - Thread Updated

      @Thenomain said:

      So, yeah, no, stuff your illogic down each other's throats; I'm not playing.

      Clearly you are.

      There's no logical fallacies here. You said that if people were willing to pay for it, it couldn't be overpriced, and that is an incredibly stupid thing to say. Get your panties twisted all you want, but it is.

      @ThatOneDude

      My point with Apple was only that its funny when I hear things that people think are so great in Windows 10 that have been on the Mac OS for years, yet those same people claim to despise OS X/Apple/Mac <haven't heard it hear yet but the haters at the office>.

      You've been able to do virtually all those things in Windows, too, just not native to the OS. People are basically lazy, though, so they're probably unaware of that as well.

      I do generally despise Apple machines, but mostly due to compatibility issues and proprietary nonsense. I used to work with them over a decade ago, which I do understand is very different than now in a lot of ways, but I generally found them to be a real pain in the ass whenever I wanted to tinker with the OS or the hardware. Add to that the fact that I just do not even have the patience to fuck around with Wine (and given the number of Apple enthusiasts I know who dual boot windows so they don't have to, that's not exactly a rare thing), and I just see zero benefit. For me, anyway.

      Truthfully for the vast majority of computer users there's functionally zero difference other than learning curve with whatever they aren't used to, between Windows and OS-whatever. They use browsers, they do email, they change virtually nothing. Neither is really better for either, but when my friends like that come around to wanting a new computer I'll pretty much always guide them towards letting me build them something that'll have considerably better specs for a fraction of the price.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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