Posts made by saosmash

@scar No, I'm scared.

@apos I vaguely remember a zillion years ago Talen and Valkieri basically having a mutual hate-on that was hilarious, so I'm vaguely optimistic about the idea of opt-in condemns and finding someone to haterade with amiably BUT WHO.

@bananerz Describing it as "fringe cases" when it was prevalent as a problem issue across a significant portion of the playerbase is disingenuous at best. This is a thing that literally happened, on this game, to a player, on this game. It was not the only instance of it happening, only the most flagrant instance of it happening. No one who was doing it was thinking that they were participating in harassment OOC. They were thinking, "Oh my character totally agrees with this, of course I will participate."

And yet! It still became a massive issue that continues to distort the factual representation of what happened on this game over an OOC year afterwards.

When people can't use toys without behaving like snotty children on a playground, it's perfectly reasonable for toys to be taken away. Honestly, I'm glad condemns aren't there. I've had impulses that could have led to unfun things for someone else if I had that ready, anonymous way to be mean to someone who irritated me. It helps me be a better person that I can't do that. I consider myself a pretty empathetic person and there've been moments I could've used that anonymity to be a shithead to someone. If that's me, I'm pretty sure it's most people.

I mean, not that Aureth is particularly shy about telling people when he thinks they suck. But at least when he does that, he's open to being responded to and if he's gonna be nasty the person in question can fight back. You can't fight back against 40 people all being like "you suck" anonymously in the privacy of their own rooms where no one can react to their shit.

@ominous The point is that "everyone blame Dawn for this thing the High Lords collectively voted for" is a false narrative that continues to persist.

@sockmonkey Oh man, ninja presents action. What a good idea.

@shincashay I love the idea of theories in theory but it reminds me too much of homework when I try to actually do it and then I go lie down and nap instead. >.>

I have seen some REALLY misguided stuff IC, and people almost always double down when you try and steer them back towards reality because of course no one's made up theory that they made themselves could be based in inaccurate information or rooted in a mix of Arx theme and other fantasy stuff they unconsciously drew in from elsewhere.

I haven't run into this as an issue at all. I share clues routinely and freely unless there are reasons not to. I think clue "dump banks" where clues exist floating freeform without context and people just take them to justify whatever crazy theory of the week they're working with is a way more prevalent problem than people not sharing their clues.

The only thing I've run into as an issue that's brought up here is running low on AP for clue sharing when RPing at the end of a week. Which could be solved by me time managing better, probably. IDK.

Upkeep systems that require you to lose what you already have always come across systemically as player "punishment," and I don't think this would be any different than any other time that comes up. Sorry, but I really don't think this is a good idea. I also really hate the idea of protecting clues from erosion from sharing them to an org. Orgs are ICly groups that involve large numbers of NPCs. You should not be sharing anything to an org that you would not freely share with large numbers of NPCs. MANY, MANY clues should not be shared freely with large numbers of NPCs.

The ability to double check things shouldn't fade over time because the fact of having the @clue means that your character has sources of some kind to back up the information they have. Now, the ability to remember shit OFF HAND that they have sources on SOMEWHERE in their STUFF should fade over time, but let's face it, it does, because, human memories.

@surreality The lawyer whose case it was did bring some sanity in. But still.

@surreality Man, if any of our cps workers tried to do a removal on video games after knowing me for 4 years...

A commissioner in court threatened a mother with contempt if she didn't hand over the ps4 to the school. It wasn't my case but I was sitting there like ... asdfjkl;

@surreality I feel like I should clarify what I am upvoting but like ... I feel this. I'm doing a docket full of truants later this morning. One of the kids I had in this a couple years ago was literally in trouble for going to the park after school to hit people with foam weapons (it was a boffers' group). I just ... IDEK with self expression and agency for youth right now.

@arkandel Fair.

I think it's pretty easy to avoid rape factories by making society egalitarian, outlawing rape and banning creepers.

I think public groping in a nightclub is fine but at a Starbucks is eyeroll. Idk. I wish I were more surprised that this is a difficult line to draw in the sand.

I don't really WoD, but I do think that tone of a game is something that staffers and players collaborate about. There are definitely times when that is in conflict (I remember being real salty about the timing of a beach party scene at one point that made me writhe about the shared environment) but for the most part successful atmosphere has to be a two way street.

What you've described is very different from how jury trials work, too. But even in the bizarre world where that's a jury trial, lemme explain something here.

Trial by jury exists to ensure fairness in fact finding beyond a reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt exists as a standard of proof because of the belief that restriction of personal liberty is the hardest thing a government should ever be able to do to an individual person.

To compare "not being able to play on a game anymore" to the restriction of fundamental personal liberty in real life goes beyond myopic to actually offensive. I'm gonna be in a jury trial next week to defend a person who is accused of ending the life of another human being. He's facing years in prison. That justifies the tremendous effort and expense of a jury trial.

No one, in the history of justice, would call a jury trial "efficient". It is one of the least efficacious ways of administering justice there is. Because the rights at stake are so important. Human rights are important so we sacrifice efficiency in favor of protecting them.

You know what isn't an important right?

The privilege of playing a pretendy game on someone else's server.

Misbehaving on a game doesn't entitle you to a jury trial. This is similar to misbehaving in a restaurant and being told to leave. You know those signs that say "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"? Totes legal. And when you harass another customer and get thrown out of the restaurant, there's no appeal because this is a free goddamn country and that's a private business.

What consenting adults do in private is nobody's business but their own.

@shincashay Well, it wasn't me.

@quinn NO I'm just going to keep your room like a SHRINE. FOREVER.