@devrex It's a word that succinctly describes brash, abrasive, rude behavior. What does it accomplish? Maybe it causes people to stop and check themselves (before they wreck themselves).
Posts made by Selira
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RE: Something Completely Different
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RE: Something Completely Different
@reimesu Let's just say I also don't have the greatest opinion of you as a person based on the tone you choose to use and the level of empathy you generally show.
It was a political event, and it was a post in the politics thread. I actually don't think most people would have been happy about a political debate starting up in RL sads, and would be complaining about that instead.
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RE: Something Completely Different
@reimesu Derp absolutely is one of the people who deserved the pushback he got. He was being an asshole, and got called on it, and proceeded to flip a shit. We've all seen where that led.
@Devrex I'm not trying to silence you. Keep talking. I'm disagreeing with you. Disagreement is not silencing, and maybe that's a key point of fundamental difference? I'm saying I don't think you argue in good faith because here you are claiming you hate seeing words being twisted while actively twisting my words into things I never said or even remotely implied. Like trying to say that I'm silencing you.
And yes, I think calling someone being an asshole one is a good thing. I'm also an asshole. I'm not saying volume makes someone right or wrong, but maybe if a bunch of people are calling you an asshole, you're being an asshole and should evaluate whether that's what you want to be at the moment.
(It is, for me, right now.)
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RE: Something Completely Different
@devrex Oh, I've definitely seen plenty of people whose arguments collapsed down into "NUH UHHHH SHUT UP."
A great example just preceded the politics forum and Hog Pit being shut down!
I'll be frank, I think 'name calling' is a bad accusation, because it's people describing a behavior. It also wasn't ever against the rules in the Hog Pit to use saltier language.
But here's a great example where, yeah, I needed to step back and look at what I was writing -- I was using a general 'you' and didn't make that clear, and it looked like I was accusing you of things I don't think apply to you directly. I think you often argue in bad faith and have a real problem seeing your own biases while accusing other people of doing just that, but I don't think you use toxic language.
Probably is a blind spot. Happy to admit that. Still looking for cases where all this supposed bullying happened.
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RE: Something Completely Different
@devrex Oh no, people are being treated as if the opinions that they voice consistently might be indicative of who they are as a person!
I can't think of many cases where a misinterpretation of someone's opinion was what got argued as, except, actually, maybe to myself? But you know who came and defended me, and pointed out a lot of people were misreading what I'd written? Many people whom others would call part of the 'clique'. The irony here is that you're doing exactly what you're arguing against, classifying people by a misunderstanding of who they are and what they've done.
The people who've recently had massive blow ups at them all deserved the pushback they got. They stated bad opinions or did very shitty things. It's not a shock that a lot of those people are giving you likes right now.
But, maybe, I'm reading things wrong. Maybe there really is a consistent pattern of people being inappropriately labeled and their arguments twisted, but you know, maybe make your arguments better to make it explicitly clear what your point actually is. Maybe when people call you an asshole, instead of going "NUH uHHHH SHUT UP" you take a step back and reevaluate what the hell it is you're writing and how you're coming off.
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RE: Something Completely Different
@devrex I don't know, I see a lot of people right now claiming people were bullying when they were pushing back on someone's stated opinions and the arguments that they were making with those opinions.
If someone has misogynist opinions, they're a misogynist.
If someone's opinions involve a lot of rape apologia, they're a rape apologist.
This is how words work. What we say is very much a thing we're actively choosing to do. It's not "sticking someone in a box," it's calling a duck a duck.
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RE: Something Completely Different
@devrex said in Something Completely Different:
Over. Opinions. And in my opinion, that isn't right.
Especially as it would be more productive to engage with the opinion. A person is not a label because they hold a wrongheaded view. They're a person with a view. Views can change. Maybe you're too tired to engage your family with that over the Thanksgiving table (god knows I am) but it's a forum. A place to discuss opinions. And engage with opinions. The original actual opinion would be a bonus.
An opinion is not a sacrosanct thing.
It is, as you said, something that can -- and often should -- change. Hiding behind them as a defense is always something I saw as particularly cowardly and intellectually dishonest. People should absolutely be put on blast if their opinion is bad, and the opinion should be tackled and argued.
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RE: Final Fantasy
@derp you realize you just alt right did the same thing again right?
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RE: Final Fantasy
FFT can be played on mobile. War of the Lions. Source: I have it!
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RE: Final Fantasy
@greenflashlight Literally the moment I stopped playing. It was right at the start of Disc Three, I was excited for going into the endgame, saw that, went nope, and left that game behind for good.
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RE: Final Fantasy
i'm down with discussing other FF's too.
except that eight is trash. i will not be taking questions.
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RE: Final Fantasy
@mietze HELLO
Lizei Caprea @Siren here, for whenever data center transfer is available.
I'm here to cry for three hours straight and wow has this game delivered.
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RE: Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.
fucking sigh.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/le-a/
Samantha wasn't a popular, common name and seen as an odd one until Bewitched came out. Names develop, morph and change, move in trends, and always have.
Oh, no, a name has a spelling you haven't seen before. So what? What does it matter, aside from trying to make a child feel bad? What does it matter, aside from the criticism often carrying racist and classist undertones?
Inka, Uwe, Vercingetorix and Gaius are not common English names. Jack is a corruption of John which is a corruption of Jonathon which is a corruption of Yehonatan.
Yikes is right.
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RE: General Video Game Thread
@sunny said in General Video Game Thread:
Soooo, how about that queue boss?
(ffxiv)
I have not been getting enough sleep because when I'm able to sign on, I just don't want to sign off.
That said, I finished what I would loosely call Act I, and my god, is this worth fighting that queue boss for.
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RE: The Work Thread
"We need you to set up a volunteer opportunity for us in one month on this specific date at this specific time for ten people. This has to be done by Monday close of business"
Never mind that it's holiday season so everyone is flooded, that it's Friday and I just heard about it at 11:00 this morning, and that I have absolutely no experience or contacts in nonprofit work in the area to coordinate something like this.
Here's hoping some of these emails pan out.
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RE: General Video Game Thread
So Final Fantasy XIV is pretty good. I know, no one has heard this yet.
But being ahead of everyone else in my FC has meant I can watch their impending heartbreaks with glee.
It's a good feeling.
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RE: Sharing some Designs for a 'Zine' Styled MUSH-Like Project. :)
@kumakun a-maz-ing. You're really capturing the essence of hipster Portland here, and as a native, I love it.
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RE: Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.
So glad that MU*ing has taught me to always, always keep the receipts if someone is being shitty.