@Aria Yup, that. I have to be blunt, too, I am a non-fan of religion, and very much a non-fan of the Catholic church much of the time. I'm just not blind to the fact that these places hold significance to people that aren't tied to religion at all, and are much more about community and culture in a broader sense.
I don't think shaming people for caring about Notre Dame is in any way helpful to anyone. FFS. Why even.
@Groth Something with the general vibe of Penny Dreadful would be more or less spot-on for that. And well-worth playing on, I think.
@stabby I wish I could recommend something. I'm an EST nightowl by nature, also, just not really checking places out lately. If I stumble across something, I'll definitely pass it along.
Sadly, sometimes 'there's a ton of people on' seems less likely to produce results than 'there are only a handful of people on but they're all also looking for people to do things with' -- and it's damnably impossible to tell which kind of game it is until you're through CG and plant the flag of 'anybody wanna do some stuff?' somewhere visible.
People are often super gung-ho about every new face before they CG, but I notice the enthusiasm seems to drop once that 'potential new buddy' turns out to be a different sphere they wouldn't interact with for whatever reason, not their gender of boinking choice in some cases probably best avoided anyway, etc. etc. etc. in ways that are frustrating in their own right, but the initial wave of 'this could be the answer to my dreams!' going on in some heads that spawns some enthusiastic newbie greetings can sometimes give a false appearance of 'there are opportunities here!' when... welllllllllllllllllllllll, not so much...
If I ever find a thing in these hours when it comes time to beat the bushes for places to play, will pass it along, though.
@Aria Same.
There is a message it sends that I also am really not at all cool with, that I don't think they intend, and it's especially heartbreaking to me, and I just... can't.
I think there will be a 'Viking Werewolf' setting coming up soonish in some of the published material, if it isn't out yet. It was one of the options in the kickstarter voting, and while it didn't win its particular round, they got enough interest to include it anyway. It's one I'd be all over myself, in addition to the Victorian setting.
@stabby While I'm not big on Changeling (so I'm not there m'self), I really hope Darkwater does well. A single-sphere Changeling game sounds like it could be fun even to me, and one without... well, certain influences is something I am incredibly glad is up and running. (If I was ever going to try to learn it and then play somewhere, that's definitely the place I'd pick.)
@Rainbow-Unicorn said:
I remember hearing a lot about Nightscape. What was it like?
It was pretty good, actually. Original theme and system horror/urban fantasy, set in a somewhat different post-apocalyptic setting. It was 'post-angel/demon war on earth' rather than post-nuclear war, and both the offspring of demons and lingering angels that couldn't get back home once heaven essentially closed the gates and said, "NOPE, that place is just all kinds of fucked, time to bunker down a while," were among the character types. There were also shapeshifters and mutants (which were more like classic psychics/psionics).
It was pretty cool, really.
@gingerlily It is. Real conversation from earlier in the day:
Me: Look at the thing I just sent you! SHINY!
Husband: Shiny, yes, but ouch. Also: no. Bad Dee.
Me: I know. I eat keyboards for breakfast. I no can has. But... I...
Husband: If you do it, so help me god, I'm ordering that black vintage bass from Japan.
Me: <lipwobble> I'm still parking it in my amazon cart in case of sudden windfall!
(I really do go through 1-2 keyboards a year, a $220 keyboard is not a smart use of $. But but but... )
Only child. Neighborhood where I grew up was mostly retirees at the time, with a whopping two other kids in the whole development for most of my childhood, until we got a third. (Woo!) You want the recipe for 'introvert able to amuse the shit out of themselves in creative ways', well, that's pretty much it in a nutshell.
In some ways, I'm grateful for my differently-functioning brain. It took me a very long time to appreciate the simple fact that I would have doubtless been the most bored and miserable, sickly child, otherwise. If I didn't amuse myself, well, nobody else was going to do it. In some ways, I was lucky to a fault. My family is full of creative nutters. As infuriating as they all are sometimes, it was at least something they understood in theory, and when I talk about 'I will always be an artist in some form or another even if it means starving in the street' it's something I count as a tick in life's win column simply because it is one thing I can do, and that would not be the case if there had been no support or understanding there. (There's a downside to this one, though, too. Because of course there is, right?)
Elementary school was hell, but I don't completely blame the ADD. The school where I landed first was... calling it a backwater would be a compliment. My parents were raised in 'good' Catholic schools; this wasn't one of them but they didn't grasp that at first. I was tiny for my age, and we'll just say I was lucky I was a girl, because I guess tiny was 'allowed'. A friend of mine since those days, also small, but male? They threatened to keep him in first grade purely because "He's too short for second grade." This is the level of 'whatever y'all are smoking, you're bastards for not sharing it with everyone else.'
Being small meant being physically pounded on regularly while the nuns blithely looked on without budging; if you came to them bloody and in torn clothes from being dragged across the parking lot by an ankle, though, by gods you were the problem, not the kids doing the dragging. This was a separate issue, but one extreme enough I still have spinal damage from it to this day, and the ADD compounded it.
Being 'untidy' or 'disorganized' or 'forgetful' was simply bad. Willfully, intentionally bad, and could be nothing else. Once you were 'the bad kid', forget any hope of help. Forget the chance that anything going wrong is not completely and wholly your fault. That kid who turns around and smacks you so hard in the head you spit out a baby tooth while you're reading? Well, you shouldn't be such a bad kid, and these things wouldn't happen to you!
I remember 'the nice teacher' simply dumping my desk over onto the floor and telling me to organize the mess all through second grade. I remember other students stealing supplies that still had my name written on them in sharpie, and being told I was the bad one for not having them/'being unprepared'; any other possibility was unthinkable to everyone with any authority to do anything whatsoever to help. It spiraled, badly. Kids are not stupid. When even the authority figure indicates in some fashion it's acceptable to treat someone badly, they know it's just fine for them to do it, too, and there won't be consequences for it.
Then, because it was the way things were done there and then, when it was time for report cards, it would get worse. They had the 'socialization section', and by gods, do I hope that's gone the way of the dodo, and I was so grateful when, years later, public school had no such fucking thing. I was sick of 'doesn't live up to potential' by the time I was six. Every single box there was to check was marked 'Unsatisfactory' save for hygiene. To this day, the word 'Unsatisfactory' makes me want to spit and punch whoever's mouth it comes out of reflexively.
No, I actually don't want to 'make friends' when that very clearly means 'let people hit me or jump up and down on my back while I'm face down on asphalt'. Who the hell would? When a five year old knows this isn't the kind of 'friend' you want to have... If only the Evil Overlord List existed back then, is what I guess I'm saying here. 
This is already long and this is... up to fourth grade. Everything from there gets so much worse for the next two year period I need to stop writing a while and just breathe and tinker with graphics for a little bit before even trying to tackle it.
Fuck. This means I have to agree to stick around or I can't use this?
Oh, well. I guess I'll stay.
@wretched https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078915Q1P is it. It makes me want to cry it's so pretty. I am a sucker for copper just... beyond. (They have a few other versions that are pretty, too, but OMFG copper and black leather.)
...didn't this conversation move over to politics or somesuch? ...a week ago?
@fortydeuce ^ This.
I wonder how many of us would have picked 'not the sword' if it was 'known for a specific skill' or something. Probably... all of us?
@Pandora And here is a sentence to fill up the new posts thingum so nothing shows under the spoiler tag, I do hope it is long enough. Where is my lorem ipsum template when I need it?
***Things are here.***
@tragedyjones you make me so sad sometimes.
would be more apt. She finally got that devotion I always wanted... 
Edit: "You ruined a brand new pair of Jimmy Choos and I'm the monster? Grrrrrrrrrar..."
@zombiegenesis My suggestion here -- take it with a huge grain of salt -- is to either not use them (which sounds like it hasn't worked out well for games that went that route), or write them all up custom, following a uniform formula for what they do/don't get as part of the bloodline.
The mystery cult guidelines -- which I'm not suggesting you swap in here -- are a good example of what I mean. I wouldn't tie it to status or rank or anything, but something like that, with something like this as a template:
(Or whatever.)
@SunnyJ 
Thank you. I am glad they let me test some of my crackpot theories on it.
