@A-B said in Spirit Lake - Discussion:
Tinuviel - Elucidate?
You just keep going and going and going... You've been told "no" by @Tat... and yet you're still fuckin' going.
@A-B said in Spirit Lake - Discussion:
Tinuviel - Elucidate?
You just keep going and going and going... You've been told "no" by @Tat... and yet you're still fuckin' going.
@Kestrel said in RL things I love:
@Ganymede said in RL things I love:
As far as I can tell, being filthy and horny is great and the sort of thing that a hippie like Jesus'd enjoy.
Why were he and his mother both virgins, then?
(Allegedly.)
No. No.
Theology goes in its own corner.
@A-B said in Tips for not wearing out your welcome:
@Tinuviel - We've moved on from that, I'm not talking to the Spirit Lake mods, I'm trying to get advice from people about whether there's any way to make it less likely to happen over and over again in other things. Admittedly the original incident keeps coming up as an example.
Oh, that's easy. If your own name appears more often than anyone else's in your backscroll, you're talking too much.
ETA: That is the combined 'anyone else'. If your name is on twenty out of twenty-five lines? Too much.
@Aria said in RL things I love:
He was under the impression that vaginas will "hold the shape" of the last thing in them
Well. That would make certain prosecutions a whole lot easier.
@Warma-Sheen said in MU* Gripes and Peeves:
Just keep in mind there are many flavors of POC who also have many flavors of culture. A lot of people forget the distinction between skin color and culture. I know a few white dudes with chocolate frosting. I know a few chocolate dudes with white frosting. They are people too.
That's not quite my point. My point was that if we're treating these characters as real people, which is the way I do things, then a POC is going to have had different experiences than white people. This only really applies to real-world settings, of course, but I don't mean white people that act black, or black people that act white, or whatever. I meant that I don't really see how you can take all the experiences of a white dude and put them in black skin and say that's a black person.
I'm approaching this, mentally, in terms of homosexuality - since that's the only real minority I can claim to be a part of. Straight and gay people are basically the same. The experience of being a gay person is not the same as the experience of being a straight person.
@Aria said in RL things I love:
".....How do you think your father got your mother pregnant with you after your brother was born?"
You ask how, his mother's clearly asking why.
@silverfox said in MU* Gripes and Peeves:
I think it is an important conversation - maybe too important to be dismissed as a peeve.
Maybe too important to be left in the Hog Pit.
@Derp said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
@Tinuviel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
@Derp said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
Maybe there is something wrong with me
I'm sure that there's a great accounting somewhere. I'm pretty cool with that, really.
If there's a great accounting, there's a great accountant. And I am so not looking forward to that boring as hell meeting.
@egg said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
So people are choosing a whitewashed reality in this case.
I think you're attributing malice where it isn't warranted.
@egg said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
why do people love blue eyes? Is it just because they're pretty?
Because they do. That's literally all the reason anyone should need to play any kind of character they want, barring the socially and morally unacceptable ones.
You can't make people interested in something, in a casual hobby setting, they aren't interested in by demanding they think about it real hard. Why do I want to play a white person? Because I'm a white person, and it's easy. Could I play a straight Puerto Rican woman with aspirations to become a neurosurgeon? Sure. It'd be fuckin' boring for me, though, because that's not what I want.
I'm here to entertain myself and enjoy my time, not fill a quota.
@mietze said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
There are many many hours being put into it.
Same out here. I get to put "Member of the <district> Viral Catastrophe Management Committee" on my CV now.
@Kanye-Qwest said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
@Tinuviel said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
@Groth said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
Should people challenge themselves more and make more of an attempt to portray other cultures?
We do that, plenty. By playing in fictional settings with their own cultures.
Is gaming a good way to explore things you can't in your reality? Absolutely. Would I trust any random Tom, Jane, or Ashley to explore that with me on a MU? Christ no.
wow excuse you i am very trustworthy
I'd probably be exceptionally trusting with you regarding certain things I could explore. But I know the online you, at least more than I do the average bumfuck MUer.
ETA: This sounded more like a clumsy pickup line at a BDSM club than how I intended...
@JinShei said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
In the UK, our government has made some interesting decisions that the people who study this shit are saying are poor choices.
So business as usual, then.
@Sparks said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
But if I did read a correct implication there, then I think trying to limit yourself to only roles you have direct personal knowledge of is limiting, both narratively as a player
You didn't read it correctly, no.
And yes, your overall point is valid. But my only response is... so?
I don't want to use my fleeting RP time to break biases or shift my viewpoint. I want to play characters that entertain me and others. I spend my entire life learning about cultures and experiences both extant and extinct. I don't want to do that when I get to play make believe with my friends.
So again, people are going to play what they want to play.
@Derp said in The Work Thread:
make legal writing sound as arcane as goddamn possible because it's special
See, I always thought it was so that you could cover every possible loophole with dense and exceptionally jargonistic language.
@silverfox It's not simply about being our escapism. It's about being our place to do our thing, within the confines of whatever setting we're in.
If I choose not to deal with a certain kind of story, so long as it's reasonable within the confines of the overall game story, then I have the expectation to have that choice simply accepted and everyone move on. The same goes for those that want to explore the intricacies of race, or culture, or whatever else.
I really hope that I'm not coming across as bigoted or bullying here, as that's not my intent. Gaming is an excellent tool to explore all kinds of things, I just don't care to be told that I must think about X, Y, or Z all of the time always or else I'm a bad person.
@Seamus said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
we are talking high six figures.
@egg said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:
@Auspice So the two choices are to play someone exactly like yourself or a stereotype?
It doesn't have to be like this. People can educate themselves. I don't even run a game so I have zero power to "shove" anyone into doing anything at all. All I'm doing here is talking.
Okay then, tell me.
Why should I play a black person?
This has definitely strayed from "my landlord did a bad" right into the Political section.