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Not quite "TV" per se, but...
... Netflix sure seems to be going down fast. Many people are hoisting their colors and sailing the high seas in response to the streaming services fragmenting so much that subscribers are asked to join several of them to keep up.
What's your take on it?
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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They're canceling themselves before they can reach a satisfying conclusion. Their specialty.
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Not quite "TV" per se, but...
... Netflix sure seems to be going down fast. Many people are hoisting their colors and sailing the high seas in response to the streaming services fragmenting so much that subscribers are asked to join several of them to keep up.
What's your take on it?
I mean, isn't this the market regulating itself?
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
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@coin It will. In the past there was just very little choice. You either had cable (for example) or you had whatever your antenna could deliver... or no TV at all.
These days either someone needs to figure out some kind of bundled service for all of these completely different streaming companies (Netflix, Prime, HBO+, Disney, etc) which from what I see is fucking unlikely to happen or whoever has a bit of know-how will just pirate the crap out of content.
With Netflix, at least for many people - myself included - it was just... the convenience. It was easier to pay $13/month or whatever to have a lot of crap at my disposal. Some of it (other streamers taking back the rights to stream shows and TVs for themselves) isn't really Netflix's fault... but a lot of it, such as canceling good shows definitely is.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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... Netflix sure seems to be going down fast.
Is it?
Netflix reported a loss of 200K subscribers. If you consider that it lost ~700K by cutting services to Russia and Belarus, you're looking at a gain of 500K. This is far lower than the estimated 2.5M gain it expected.
But there's only so many people in the world that can access Netflix and its content. That's reality. And there are a lot of services out there, many of whom pulled their content from Netflix to start such services (like Disney, for instance). Should we have been surprised?
I'm not. This is market and media over-reaction.
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Is it?
Maybe, maybe not?
There's a difference between the actual impacts of Netflix not seeing the growth it wants and expects and the impacts of Netflix's reactions to the less than expected growth and its results on the user experience.
So even if it is a market overreaction (which seems likely) the fact that Netflix is responding by cutting anticipated shows, cracking down on password sharing, and talking about plans to introduce ads seems like this might be the start of one of those shifts where the company stops trying to build business by attracting more customers and starts trying to extract more revenue from the customers it already has, and that's a shift that can spiral really quickly.
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Not quite "TV" per se, but...
... Netflix sure seems to be going down fast. Many people are hoisting their colors and sailing the high seas in response to the streaming services fragmenting so much that subscribers are asked to join several of them to keep up.
What's your take on it?
Netflix has a few things that I really like. Elite. Toy Boy. A handful of others. But then Paramount does too, and Disney. And Amazon. I think that Netflix is going to have to lower its sub prices if it wants to remain competitive now that it doesn't have monopoly.
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@insomniac7809 said in Good TV:
So even if it is a market overreaction (which seems likely) the fact that Netflix is responding by cutting anticipated shows, cracking down on password sharing, and talking about plans to introduce ads seems like this might be the start of one of those shifts where the company stops trying to build business by attracting more customers and starts trying to extract more revenue from the customers it already has, and that's a shift that can spiral really quickly.
Sure, but I do not mistake managerial incompetence with foreseeable market trends.
And that's why I have an M.S. in economics, not an M.B.A.
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These days either someone needs to figure out some kind of bundled service for all of these completely different streaming companies (Netflix, Prime, HBO+, Disney, etc)
Uh, you do realize that was what cable was originally and kind of still is? A bundling of all this extra content in which you chose levels to buy that included different channels? You had basic cable, extended basic that had like, 30 extra fluff chans like food network, then the specialty ones that had sports or specific movie channels.
This is just everything old is new again kind of things.
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No spoilers for the Moon Knight finale. Just...
WOW.
A good WOW
And there's a mid-credits scene you CANNOT miss. Just keep watching. You'll thank me later.
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@runescryer So far I've watched Moon Knight and it was okay, but it hasn't grabbed me. But I'm one (two, now) episodes behind.
I hope this does the trick.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@runescryer I'm planning on binging it this weekend. I saw the first episode and I felt attacked by it in the best possible way when they introduce Stephen with his ankle bracelet and sand and tape. It was at once comforting and a wake-up call to see someone with obvious mental health issues who's been so unwell for so long it doesn't even occur to him that this isn't normal; that there's some shit in his life he needs to fix. I'm getting emotional just thinking about it.
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I want to know who asked that woman out.
I have a waggish sense of humor.
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@misadventure You'll see.
No Spoilers.
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@arkandel Yeah, the final 2 episodes are a serious roller-coaster. Just grab on and enjoy.
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@greenflashlight Backstorry on Marc/Stephen comes in Episode 5.
CW: trigger for child abuse.
Just letting folks planning on watching it all a heads up.
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@runescryer Appreciated. I got that vibe from the YouTube thumbnails I've seen of people reacting to the fifth episode, but it's still good to have it confirmed and a warning given.
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@insomniac7809 said in Good TV:
Is it?
Maybe, maybe not?
There's a difference between the actual impacts of Netflix not seeing the growth it wants and expects and the impacts of Netflix's reactions to the less than expected growth and its results on the user experience.
So even if it is a market overreaction (which seems likely) the fact that Netflix is responding by cutting anticipated shows, cracking down on password sharing, and talking about plans to introduce ads seems like this might be the start of one of those shifts where the company stops trying to build business by attracting more customers and starts trying to extract more revenue from the customers it already has, and that's a shift that can spiral really quickly.
It is indeed a sign of a larger problem. Sometimes you can be right, but for the wrong reasons. This seems to be the case for the media.
The market... maybe not so much. Netflix has always overspent and carried huge debt. It was only a matter of time before it all fell down. They tried to pull an Amazon and throw money at the problem until they became too big to fail, but online entertainment is the wrong market for that business model. Also that strategy only works if you see it through to the end. If you can't go the distance, your outlook is grim. Changing programming strategies was and will be their downfall.
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PICARD. OMG. That last episode, man. Right in the feels. The whole damn time.
STRANGE NEW WORLDS -- Is glorious. Pike has all the charm and charisma you could hope for in an old-school star fleet captain. BEWARE MAJOR SPOILERS FOR DISCOVERY all through the first episode.
Halo -- I have never played the games. But this series is dark dude. Like holy shit. And I'm here for it.
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
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I don't do much television, but I'm about to give Ozark a whirl. Fingers crossed that it doesn't end up a poor use of my time.
