@Wizz said:
I've been thinking about this all day and actually I don't know, my friends and I are creeping into our thirties and looking at us... maybe this really is noteworthy????
I am 28, and therefore creeping into my thirties, and I am not at all wrinkled. Granted, I also avoid the sun like the plague, and don't tend to do the sort of things that would cause weather and wear on your skin.
Also: Re-promotions and age of crew on Star Trek games, the ones I've been on it always became some thematic hard rule about age and time in services, and etc. etc. So what ended up happening was if you wanted to app in as a high rank Lt, LCDR, or heaven forbid the rare CMDR, you had to app in at an older age.
...and then when the game started to thin out on players, and positions needed to be field, and promotion-time game around the younger crew PCS whose players stuck around were promoted up and what about your precious theme now, asshole?!
Now you have someone who went from ENS to full LT. Or LTJG to LCDR.
/me rants.
I think that's why some games highly restrict apping anything higher than 'entry level'. Promotions are earned by those who have an interest in the game, longevity in their roles, room for learning code, and less 'Captain Kirks' about.
Every time someone asks to app higher on the Trek game I'm on (entry level starting required), it's always a request for command, and they always expect existing characters to magically want to crew under them. The other players don't take to that well; anyone that does start higher is often looked suspiciously as a potential staff alt, and falls off the game within 2-4 weeks anyhow.
TiG = RP? Nice.
When TiG is not the only element to promotion, they do correspond well.
And it also beats someone apping a Chief Science officer, only for that person to last two weeks, and the person who has to report into him (science junior officer) being left in a rut. Again.
@Cobaltasaurus said:
@Wizz said:
I've been thinking about this all day and actually I don't know, my friends and I are creeping into our thirties and looking at us... maybe this really is noteworthy????
I am 28, and therefore creeping into my thirties, and I am not at all wrinkled. Granted, I also avoid the sun like the plague, and don't tend to do the sort of things that would cause weather and wear on your skin.
I was more making a joke about the "maintained his physical condition while still being in his thirties." I'm also a Morlock and hiss and spit when confronted by the day orb, but dude yeah some people our age have been ruined.
Hollywood has really ruined our perceptions of what age really looks like and what we expect it to, too, in my experience.
"Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.
@Coin Or good looks. Watching british TV series sometimes reminds me of that fact. That secretary #2 isn't a softly lit person with great teeth and glowing skin.
@Arkandel Lolz, yes. The Brits are a lot less obsessed with mainstream attractiveness.
Or is the BBC more obsessed with abnormal bone structure? DUN DUN DUNNNN
@FirePuff said:
I think that's why some games highly restrict apping anything higher than 'entry level'. Promotions are earned by those who have an interest in the game, longevity in their roles, room for learning code, and less 'Captain Kirks' about.
Every time someone asks to app higher on the Trek game I'm on (entry level starting required), it's always a request for command, and they always expect existing characters to magically want to crew under them.
Bullshit. That statement says more about your own limitations than about anyone else's motives.
I recently explored apping a NCO (that is to say, someone ineligible for command) in his late-30s/early 40s on a game like this. It was not because I wanted the character to be in a command position but because I like playing characters who are dealing with the changed expectations and career goals that come with age and for whom issues of rank and experience can help define their actions and personality. I couldn't get anyone on the game to understand what I meant, however; they seemed to think that the only reason someone would want to play an older character was to have a higher rank and a better sheet. At least they were up front about it, which I figure saved us all some frustration.
@Coin said:
Hollywood has really ruined our perceptions of what age really looks like and what we expect it to, too, in my experience.
Goodness, yes. I pretty much have three loose age categories for people based on looks:
Child, Teenager(??), and Adult. I pretty much have no idea how old people are based on their appearance.
@BetterJudgment said:
I recently explored apping a NCO (that is to say, someone ineligible for command) in his late-30s/early 40s on a game like this. It was not because I wanted the character to be in a command position but because I like playing characters who are dealing with the changed expectations and career goals that come with age and for whom issues of rank and experience can help define their actions and personality. I couldn't get anyone on the game to understand what I meant, however; they seemed to think that the only reason someone would want to play an older character was to have a higher rank and a better sheet. At least they were up front about it, which I figure saved us all some frustration.
Yeah, this is dumb.
There should be no reason to restrict apps of mid-grade officers or mid-grade NCOs on most of these sorts of games. These people aren't in charge of anything (though it creates a pool that's far more sensible to promote faction-head positions from). This is just how career progression in the military works.
@BetterJudgment said:
@FirePuff said:
I think that's why some games highly restrict apping anything higher than 'entry level'. Promotions are earned by those who have an interest in the game, longevity in their roles, room for learning code, and less 'Captain Kirks' about.
Every time someone asks to app higher on the Trek game I'm on (entry level starting required), it's always a request for command, and they always expect existing characters to magically want to crew under them.
Bullshit. That statement says more about your own limitations than about anyone else's motives.
I recently explored apping a NCO (that is to say, someone ineligible for command) in his late-30s/early 40s on a game like this.
In the game I'm discussing (WNOHGB), mid-grade NCOs were permitted with appropriate bio. It's only really officers that had the restriction.
Of course, they did have some change in a couple administrators recently, so reactions might be different.
Maybe some sort of at Chargen merit that maps out the IC level of and OOC expectations of potential rank would be helpful.
I'm performing a Necro on this thread.
After watching The Martian the itch for space based exploration/adventure (i.e. Star Trek) creeped up but there really is nothing out there. Is there a reason for this? I've seen the standard arguments of the sitting on stations or hiding in bunks etc, but there was a time when you couldn't avoid seeing Star Trek MUSHes and now the only options are a MOO and a decades old space shooter (ATS). What happened to Trek?
There's also Faded Glory (corpexpanse.com:2100). It's Penn (I think) and it's basically dead too. Perhaps some new blood can light the engines again.
I've popped into Faded Glory over the years when I've seen ads for it that seemed to want to vitalize/revitalize it. I got the impression, frankly, that it was one of those places where staff wasn't terribly interested in running things. Which is fine, just not what I'm looking for. Is there any indication this will change or has changed?
Well "staff" is one person and I think she's pretty much given up.
Someone should make a game based on the new movies, then we can pose about all the inconvenient lens flares we now deal with in everyday life.
I miss Anomaly Trek MUSH/MUX. ( ATM), I mean I played Zevarin a Betazoid and I loved her. I missed Anomaly so much it was exciting and different. A ship based game, like Voyager.
When TiG is not the only element to promotion, they do correspond well.
And it also beats someone apping a Chief Science officer, only for that person to last two weeks, and the person who has to report into him (science junior officer) being left in a rut. Again.
