Regarding administration on MSB
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@ghost said in Regarding administration on MSB:
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ModeratorGammaI'm repeating my suggestion, because I think that had @Arkandel said it and not @Auspice this discussion would be happening differently.
I'll also note that this is the second time someone has cried foul at @Auspice using ModVoice, and the rate is seeming disproportionate to when Ark does.
I mean, FFS people, she was just trying to point out that someone reached out to her as forum moderation to let her know that someone was allegedly planning to use MSB as a way to bring the game down. This is exactly the kind of information you'd expect a moderator to receive, and if it were your favorite game you'd appreciate someone getting involved to try to stop the space from being used as an attack platform for selfish purposes.
My Spider-Senses are tingling. In my experience, this may not be so much a complaint about the use of ModVoice, but that the use of ModVoice is possibly the justification for a round of mud slinging.
Wow, so strange.
Auspice used 'mod voice' once in reference to a game she was actively defending as a player, and people (not me) called her on it.
Obviously people just hate Auspice, and that's not actually a questionable decision.
The complaint IS about 'mod voice'.
Arkandel isn't running around using mod voice in trivial situations.
Auspice and Ganymede are.
So yeah, it's not surprising they're getting reactions he isn't.
You trying to make it seem like it's something else is just nonsense.
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@tempest said in Regarding administration on MSB:
Obviously people just hate Auspice, and that's not actually a questionable decision.
You can't see it, can you.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@ghost guiltily put down monkey
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@arkandel said in Regarding administration on MSB:
@tempest said in Regarding administration on MSB:
Obviously people just hate Auspice, and that's not actually a questionable decision.
You can't see it, can you.
Your point? No.
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@tempest Maybe, just maybe, it has something to do with the fact that some of the same names who felt the need to create a whole thread to shriek about this were the ones braying for her head on a spike a handful of weeks ago.
It isn't a stretch to think they were likely none too pleased when they were told they weren't going to get the pound of flesh they wanted.
We've never seen that dynamic go down with an increasingly melodramatic display of micro-managing, histrionic hand-wringing, or aggressive policing of everything that person does or says on games (or forums), have we? Oh, wait, we absolutely have, all the damn time.
It's just gallingly transparent in this case. Whether or not there's an actual issue, the amount of drama it's generating is completely fucking ridiculous.
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I mean, I have no real problem with Auspice, or anybody here, despite occasional appearances otherwise.
As Apos was kind enough to point out, I hate authority. Especially in shit like forums. It ALWAYS starts to get very 'subjective' and once 'tone control' starts it is a descent towards outright censorship and eventually death of discussion.
But, if there is some disgruntled group on the board trying to crucify Auspice, my complaints are independent of that, I assure you.
I'm not friends with any of you fucking people.
I'll be nice to you if I see you on a game though.
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I mean ... apart from Tempest being extra as per usual and there being a thread to WTF specifically about reacting to a coup conspiracy that we all know doesn't, wouldn't and couldn't exist, what drama? Maybe i'm missing something here but I don't actually see what's gallingly transparent.
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@tempest I don't think you're one of the people playing that particular popularity/bullying game.
You're an equal opportunity shit-flinger, and, yeah, you're chill and fun to hang out with on a game.
That might be why you're not seeing what's kinda painfully obvious in regard to some other folks, though, 'cause that shit is so not subtle.
@saosmash Honestly? Some of the names in that thread were braying for Auspice's head in this one not so long ago. I've personally observed how long they wank on a grudge and go nit-picking and twisting anything and everything into a federal case for shit to attack when they single somebody out with the intent of causing harm or humiliation or driving someone out. It's childish bully behavior, it's bullshit, and there's no excuse for it, or turning a blind eye to it and pretending it isn't happening, amongst people who claim to be adults.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality said in Regarding administration on MSB:
@saosmash Honestly? Some of the names in that thread were braying for Auspice's head in this one not so long ago. I've personally observed how long they wank on a grudge and go nit-picking and twisting anything and everything into a federal case for shit to attack when they single somebody out with the intent of causing harm or humiliation or driving someone out. It's childish bully behavior, it's bullshit, and there's no excuse for it, or turning a blind eye to it and pretending it isn't happening, amongst people who claim to be adults.
Hence my suggestion for moderator logins like "ModAlpha". When it's not entirely clear who the moderator is, then their integrity cannot be assassinated for sport.
Which is sad, when you think about it, because this is the same method that cops in Mexico use to keep their children from being placed into Kidnap and Ransom by the Cartel for their being honest cops. They wear facemasks over their faces so that it's harder for the Cartel to follow them home from work and kidnap their family.
But the same concept applies.
Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
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@ghost Unless it was one posting account all the mods shared, people would guess pretty quickly; we're good at spotting 'voice', and all three of the mods here have pretty distinctive voices. Even with one account... the same would ultimately happen.
We already have people braying to know if all the mods were consulted on any given thing a single mod does, so it's hard to not be that pessimist who can see the petulant foot-stomping demands to know which mod wrote any given thing as a near certainty.
ETA: A whole lot of this comes down to people often making demands rather than asking, and not being able to accept a 'no' with anything resembling the barest shred of grace or introspection to consider whether their ask or demand was at all reasonable in the first place. It just becomes a reason to make the no-sayer/dissenting opinion's life a miserable hell thereafter as much as possible, cloaked in the most ill-adopted cloak of self-righteousness more or less ever.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality FYI, that thread had nothing to do with Auspice and everything to do with the STF staff and me actually doing what we are supposed to (taking shit flinging to the hog pit instead of leaving it iin the ad threads). There is no shrieking about this at all. Speaking of personal vendattas...or was there some other thread where there is supposed shrieking about this decision?
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@sunny Respectfully, I don't believe you at all, so I'm not interested in discussing it with you.
Oh fucking well.
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@surreality There is nothing respectful about that statement. My posts are not unclear.
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@surreality said in Regarding administration on MSB:
We already have people braying to know if all the mods were consulted on any given thing a single mod does, so it's hard to not be that pessimist who can see the petulant foot-stomping demands to know which mod wrote any given thing as a near certainty.
One shared moderator login would be amazing and might work, though I suggest that all communication @Ganymede and @Auspice has is sent via text to @Arkandel so that it all appears to be typed using his personal style, because you know that even if the others were logging into the moderator account, the differences in writing styles would be analyzed.
Someone please create a text-to-speech account that we can link in audio to, and then all the moderator has to do is insert a link to their text-to-speech announcement. That might work better.
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I think it would be fair to say that there are both people who don't think Auspice should be a mod who are nitpicking every action and also people who don't think Auspice should be a mod but who have stated so pretty civilly and respectfully.
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@ghost said in Regarding administration on MSB:
Hence my suggestion for moderator logins like "ModAlpha". When it's not entirely clear who the moderator is, then their integrity cannot be assassinated for sport.
Man, I can't make a post under "ModAlpha" without giggling. I don't know how to.
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Anonymous mod account names. Pre-set messages. Kick death squads in the night.
I have a waggish sense of humor.
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Like literally, the only comment I made in that thread about the mod action taken was to say that I agreed with it (because I did actually agree with it)...that is not braying for anyone's head, in my reality. I am not sure why shit is being flung in my direction because I...did what we are supposed to, in that I wanted to say a shitty thing about a game, so I took it to the Hog Pit.
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@misadventure said in Regarding administration on MSB:
Kick death squads in the night.
I want kitten squads in the night.
Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.
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