Nov 20, 2020, 9:12 PM
Double posting to add:
@mietze You can be sad about whatever the fuck you want, and no one has the right to judge you for it.
RL Sads
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Double posting to add:
@mietze You can be sad about whatever the fuck you want, and no one has the right to judge you for it.
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So insomniac and I stopped to help at the scene of a pretty nasty car accident on our way home.
The driver wasn't wearing his seatbelt. Literally the only reason he didn't go through his windshield, which was crushed up against the guardrail across his entire front end, was because all of his airbags deployed.
WEAR YOUR FUCKING SEATBELTS, GUYS.
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Friend's wife and fellow D&D group member has gone from ER to ICU to ventilator and sedation. Double pneumonia. Her Covid experience is going the wrong direction. Fuck this virus.
I've already got one memorial to attend after this nightmare ends so please do not go through airports unless it is absolutely necessary. Do not go to bars and restaurants unless absolutely necessary.
It's been made pretty clear by now that this virus doesnt care how little you're afraid of it. Dont fuck around and find out.
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It's been made pretty clear by now that this virus doesn't care how little you're afraid of it. Don't fuck around and find out.
And to build on that point, because it is a virus, you are not the only person who is at risk from your behavior. You might be fine and your loved ones dead from the infection you pass to them.
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Well, there are reports of patients denying COVID-19 is real, even as they die from it so at this point I'm not sure, short of laws forcing them to obey measures with strict penalties if they don't, that counting on even basic common sense to prevail will work.
"You got hit by a car, please lay still"
"I DON'T BELIEVE IN CARS"
"Well, cars believe in you so..."- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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Well, there are reports of patients denying COVID-19 is real, even as they die from it so at this point I'm not sure, short of laws forcing them to obey measures with strict penalties if they don't, that counting on even basic common sense to prevail will work.
You really think that the laws will make them change their mind?
Look, some people deserve to die, all right?
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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I'd agree with that sentiment if not for the impossibility of preventing collateral deaths.
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@GreenFlashlight This.
It isn't that person I'm necessarily worried about. It's their potential as a vector.
The disinformation around this virus is as deadly or more so than the virus itself, and disinformation in general has an astonishing network to be amplified and spread through.
It isn't just the anti-vaxxers and similar spreading it; it's going through a very active and growing propaganda pipeline that has become large enough to pose a genuine danger.
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Then we all deserve to die.
Collateral damage is unavoidable, I agree. No matter what happens, there will be unimaginable suffering ahead for many.
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I think that certainly in the US the culture we have created is one in which we will now reap the consequences. But honestly the people that most "deserve" those consequences are never the ones that will pay them. I'm watching the behavior of my extended family this week and I'm sure the next, and I can't be sad anymore, just numb. But I'm feeling that about a lot of covid impact stuff now, because I'm still dealing with the impact of losing 14 clients in the first 2 months that it became news in the US, dealing with phones and seeing clients i knew lose everything and talk suicide on the phone and be able to do nothing to help them. I'm glad I'm in a job where I do not have to deal with that so directly, but I also know there are families with kids in our care who are deniers or what's the big dealers, so I have resigned myself to our center being hit at some point.
I really worry for our front line health professionals 6 months out. Especially the ones now getting abused by patients Nd family members whose cognitive dissonance is being torn from them so they need to scapegoat the staff. I imagine what I'm working through is less than a quarter of what they do.
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Look, some people deserve to die, all right?
Oh for sure. And you know what, if it's their choice and only affects them then so be it. For example if people choose to not wear a seat belt and get shot out through their windshields if there's an accident then... well, so be it.
But unlike Covid-19, not wearing a seat belt doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect senior members of my family, their coworkers, people on the same bus or who happened to be at the same store when they got in there with a mask dangling underneath their noses.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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But unlike Covid-19, not wearing a seat belt doesn't affect me.
You don't think it does? But it does.
There is collateral damage and unintended consequences of every policy. That doesn't change the fact that: (1) some people deserve to die; and (2) some people don't.
As mietze said, we are reaping the consequences of our choices, collectively. In the U.S., we are reaping the consequences of the continual erosion of our education and health care systems. For FY2019, we spent almost $700B on the military; yet we couldn't be bothered to pay a fraction of that to develop a vaccine for the public? Or to deploy and develop treatment and quarantine centers in our urban areas? The entire COVID debacle is so infuriating on so many levels that it makes my teeth ache.
So, I just shrug my shoulders at this point. Thinking about it makes me angry. Suffice to say, I've stopped caring who dies and just take steps to protect me and mine.
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Everyone deserves to die. I can't think of a more awful torture than living forever.
Very few people deserve to be killed by their government to stroke a senile narcissist's ego.
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@GreenFlashlight said in RL Sads:
Very few people deserve to be killed by their government to stroke a senile narcissist's ego.
71 million people don't qualify as "very few people."
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@Arkandel "it only affects me" was the argument against mandating car seat belt use and child car seats. (I'm old enough to remember it and how many people pouted and were extremely concerned about their freedom and ability to do with their families how they wished also). But it doesn't just affect that person. Bodies ping ponging around in a crashing/rolling vehicle kill others who might be wearing their restraints. In certain circumstances even in a painful sudden stop, the driver not being ejected means that they may be able to retain enough control of their vehicle longer or after to lessen the impact to others. First responders still have to pick up the pieces of adults and children even if they died free, that has an impact. Lessening injuries and deaths for lower speed impacts has an effect too.
I wish people were more cognizant that when it comes to safety issues and public health issues there's very few things that "just affect me."
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@mietze Fair point.
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And there is not enough nurses to care for all the patient's there is right now. I just got home after my government provided replacement didn't show up and we had to scramble. A manager took over so I could get a few hours of sleep before tomorrow. At a certain point is just not enough nurses to care for everyone. I am working insane hours. So every person who stays home is lowering the burden on the medical system, which is about to break right now or at least it feels that way.
I would say a lot more about the situation right now, but I just don't have the words right now and I think I would get emotional and too intense real quick.
I hope your friend improves, Ghost and I am sorry to hear about her situation.