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    A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like

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    • mietze
      mietze @Derp last edited by

      @Derp said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:

      To be clear here: I don't think anyone is attaching me, though I do appreciate @Surreality for saying that. It's refreshing. 🙂 ❤

      To be clear on another thing: Yes, the entire staff of Fate's Harvest is listening. We are aware of the feelings, we're in active discussion on the matter, and we take your concerns seriously.

      What we are doubling down on is this: We are not going to remove a player before they have presented themselves as a problem on that game. This goes against the spirit of things that the Game Owner wants to see become canon there. So no amount of outcry is going to get us to magically remove the player before she has done so.

      However, that doesn't mean that we aren't doing something. We've already shifted course a bit in light of these things, and continue to discuss ways to try and help handle the situation in a way that protects us and all of our players, both present and potential. While we haven't come to any solid conclusions yet, you're being heard. We just won't take the (in our opinion, drastic) measure of removing a player from the game before they present themselves as a problem. I know that this leaves some people disappointed, but that's just the way it is.

      And on that note: We invite anyone who sees something shady going on to let us know. Staff can't be everywhere all the time, as players have pointed out, but the players also have to communicate with the staff if something suspicious is going down (beyond 'this person is present'). If you see something, say something. Preferably with some kind of log so that we can see it too.

      One interesting thing about the game: logging is pretty heavy on most players' to-do lists. If you want to do more than the standard one xp a week, logs must be submitted. Pretty much everyone is aware of that, and scenes get logged pretty diligently, so logging is already in our nature. And we do read them.

      So, as constructively as possible: We know. We hear you. We'll take action if it even starts to look like a problem. But so far, it doesn't look anything like that. If that changes, we'll be on it. Trust.

      You might want to clean this up a bit and post it to your ad thread. This is an excellent, actual response.

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      • WTFE
        WTFE last edited by

        It's so cute watching the village bumpkins pick up their pitchforks, confident that they, this time, can slay the dragon.

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          Paris @WTFE last edited by Paris

          @WTFE The only people who can stop her are the staff who allow or disallow her to play on their games. I think we're all aware of that.

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          • Tinuviel
            Tinuviel last edited by

            @Paris And that requires people, us or other people, being capable of establishing why such people shouldn't be allowed to play their games. With reason and justification, not histrionics.

            He/Him

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            • Thenomain
              Thenomain @Tinuviel last edited by

              @Tinuviel

              Agreed. I don't think that, or much of that at least, is happening here.

              “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
              ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

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              • Meg
                Meg @WTFE last edited by

                @WTFE

                Sometimes when you post, I really want to send you chocolate. (You're always so grumpy! Do you want some chocolate, WTFE?)

                #FreeFarfalla

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                • Templari
                  Templari @Derp last edited by

                  @Derp It's your game, and your right to do such. However. I'm confused as to why you're doing the MU* version of bringing a stinking festered skunk into the middle of your living room. Is it that you need to suffer the effects for yourself before you realize it's a bad idea? The moment you crossed your doorstep with it was when you stepped from 'bad idea' to 'intentional self-harm'.

                  Head. In. Sand. Pages and pages of how it happened on every game, yet you'd rather wait until it is too late to act. Not making a decision is a big decision. @Miss-Demeanor is correct, it's going to be too late.

                  You're losing people coming into the door, that alone should be enough.

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                  • WTFE
                    WTFE @Paris last edited by

                    @Paris said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:

                    @WTFE The only people who can stop her are the staff who allow or disallow her to play on their games. I think we're all aware of that.

                    It's the staff I'm viewing as the village bumpkins. Their whole "we've got this, trust us" thing has me giggling. It's almost as if nobody has ever in the past thought of watching her closely with an eye toward stepping in if she starts being a problem...

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                    • WTFE
                      WTFE @Meg last edited by

                      @Meg said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:

                      @WTFE

                      Sometimes when you post, I really want to send you chocolate. (You're always so grumpy! Do you want some chocolate, WTFE?)

                      Chocolate. And booze. Either works. 🙂

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                      • Meg
                        Meg @WTFE last edited by

                        @WTFE

                        Ok, PM me your address, the random internet person. Right?? I'll send chocolates.

                        #FreeFarfalla

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                        • WTFE
                          WTFE @Meg last edited by

                          @Meg Uh... That would be remarkably expensive.

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                          • Autumn
                            Autumn @WTFE last edited by

                            @WTFE said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:

                            It's so cute watching the village bumpkins pick up their pitchforks, confident that they, this time, can slay the dragon.

                            Oh.  Crap.

                            "Unclean beast! Get thee down! Be thou consumed by the fires that made thee! "

                            God damn I love Ian McDiarmid.

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                            • Ghost
                              Ghost last edited by

                              My personal favorite is the one of us might be a Cylon paranoia. Far too many people(for comfort) I've met on these games would often go into stalker mode themselves trying to determine who is who.

                              • That person typed a pose like VASpider does! Might be spider!
                              • Your character name is vaguely similar to an old character name who stalked me...are you <blah>?
                              • A creepy guy used that PB once on another game and I can't trust you arent him, so please don't take offense

                              It'd be interesting to see the results as to whether or not the damage done out of paranoia is > the damage done by the actual bad guys.

                              Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
                              I really don't understand He-Man

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                              • Arkandel
                                Arkandel Admin @Ghost last edited by

                                @Ghost said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:

                                • A creepy guy used that PB once on another game and I can't trust you arent him, so please don't take offense

                                I'm getting flashbacks of that chick who flipped out because my posing style was similar to a guy who had stalked her. <shudder>

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                                • Ghost
                                  Ghost @Arkandel last edited by

                                  @Arkandel See?!?!? It's everywhere

                                  Once I had a player I didnt even know start texting me really weird questions about where I'd played. Turned out she was screening me on behalf of someone else I was actively rping with at the time.

                                  DUDE, I got blackOps'd screened.

                                  Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
                                  I really don't understand He-Man

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                                  • Arkandel
                                    Arkandel Admin @Ghost last edited by

                                    @Ghost said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:

                                    DUDE, I got blackOps'd screened.

                                    That's the badass interpretation for what happened. I can't blame you for choosing to go with that one.

                                    ... You could also say it was like highschool all over again and getting a friend to check you out first, but that doesn't sound as cool.

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                                    • Ghost
                                      Ghost @Arkandel last edited by

                                      @Arkandel well, the next logical step after that would be to suddenly have a lawyer show up at my door asking me to sign an affidavit that I'm not Bucky0hare420. Or, worse yet, being waterboarded at a Chicago black site until they're convinced I'm truly not that person...and then release me to return to WoDMu#8778

                                      Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
                                      I really don't understand He-Man

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                                      • Arkandel
                                        Arkandel Admin @Ghost last edited by

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                                        • Ghost
                                          Ghost @Arkandel last edited by

                                          @Arkandel sometimes...the bullet is easy to dodge.

                                          Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
                                          I really don't understand He-Man

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                                          • surreality
                                            surreality @Arkandel last edited by

                                            @Arkandel She didn't force them to do anything.

                                            The collective antics of crazy people did, her included among them.

                                            Go take a look at the Batshit Crazy thread, at the trolling I got, where someone pretended to be my abusive (recent) ex, and insisted they were angry with me for having them banned. (Never did. Never gotten anyone banned from Shang.)

                                            That is one of the people who was fucking with that girl for sport. He has admitted doing exactly this. If he was using similar tactics, and was part of a group doing the same? Yeah, she might not be stable, but people were actually fucking with her in some dark-as-fuck sicker-than-that ways for their amusement, and that is absolutely not OK.

                                            Oh fucking well.

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