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@reimesu which one?

[Arkandel]

Hawkeye episode 3 was pretty good. And apparently it's getting a lot of positive attention for the way it handled certain physical disabilities.

But they really need to work on how to close an episode out. The ending didn't make me go 'wow I really want to see what happens next'.

[Arkandel]

... Hawkeye episode 5 was very good!

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The Kate/Yelena scene in particular stood out. Both killed it.

And Vincent D'Onofrio is back as the Kingpin! I wonder if they will bring back any of the other Netflix characters along for the ride before the season (series?) concludes next week.

[silverfox]

We're watching Dopesick right now and it's hitting really close to home. My husband's father died of an OxyContin overdose when he was 13 so watching others go through what his family did...

Yeah.

[GreenFlashlight]

@arkandel said in Good TV:

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I pay extra to ship it express.

[BetterNow]

Finished Hawkeye on Disney+ last night. It was DELIGHTFUL! As a fan of the Matt Fraction comics, it pleased me to no end to see them incorporate a lot of the feel of those while still planting it firmly in the MCU. So many easter eggs for fans of those comics. SO MANY. And a lot of surprises! Enjoyed the hell out of it.

[Warma Sheen]

Loving The Big Leap on Hulu. It is one one my favorite shows. It was everything I wanted Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist to be, but wasn't.

It probably isn't getting a 2nd season, but I love this show for everything that it is. Best dancing I've seen on a show for a while, especially in terms of variety. And it isn't just the dancing that has variety. It has a little something for all types of people. Granted, the lack of focus is probably one thing that some people didn't like, but for me it was amazing.

[buttercup]

I know this is “Good TV” but the Book of Fett is crap thus far. Yuck. Just watched it and if it wasn’t for the kids would have turned it off.

[GreenFlashlight]

@buttercup I'm not watching it, so this is a question rather than a challenge. What's so bad about it?

[Wizz]

I would have personally stopped short of saying it was bad before I saw the third episode, but now I'm struggling to find positive things to say about it either.

It's hard to put into words exactly what's wrong, because on paper everything happening should be cool as hell -- a grim sci fi story about the rise of a crime lord on a barren desert planet, featuring a man who has been witness to some of the biggest events in the galaxy and now just wants a slice? How is that not fucking rad??? -- but the execution is...off. The sets and costumes are too weirdly clean and brightly colored. Everything looks like it's made of plastic and rubber to a degree that seems almost deliberate.

Parts of the premise are kind of baffling (he's supposedly taken over Jabba the Hutt's criminal empire, but up until the third episode it's like...literally just him, Fennec Shand and two pig aliens? That barely even qualifies as a street gang. Why anyone takes them seriously is never explained.) Any fight choreography involving Fett so far is frankly pretty goofy. It's understandable given that he's not a young guy but with at least one action set piece an episode, that's a looooot of upcoming awkward, clumsy fighting to swallow, and the pacing throughout is painfully slow. There's a speeder "chase" scene where everyone involved appears to be moving at maybe 15 miles an hour? It's so weird and like I said, just off.

[buttercup]

@greenflashlight

I'm trying to put into words what is wrong with it. A lot.

When the gang of colorful speeder Vespa riders became apart of the series I was done as done could be.

They killed off the only kinda/sorta part of the series I kinda/sorta liked already.

[Wizz]

@buttercup said in Good TV:

They killed off the only kinda/sorta part of the series I kinda/sorta liked already.

Same. I really thought they were going somewhere with that, but they're already done-zo by episode 3, which is...a puzzling choice.

Maybe they'll revisit it later?

But yeah, the Cyborg Mod Squad is just goofy and completely out of place on Tatooine. I would have accepted them on Coruscant, but like...the hell are these trust fund kids doing in some backwater slum, struggling to pay for water if they can afford their fancy dapper clothes, mopeds and prosthetics?

[Arkandel]

I am not sold on Book of Fett either. It's not that it's bad.

For starters I agree with what others said; like it or not the actor isn't young any more and it's hard to pull off cool, choreographed fighting scenes. That's something they should have been able to work around though - Fett wears a full armor and helmet, for crying out lout. Surely they could have professional stuntmen doing the flippy flip stuff.

It's also though that the show isn't giving us a cool supporting cast. It's merely hinting at it. Ming-Na Wen is awesome but she barely does anything. There are morally gray characters such as a local club owner played by Jennifer Beals but she also does very little other than appear now and then. The Mayor is cool but what's his story? The henchmen have no lines. The desert tribal people have no lines.

We need some fucking dialogue in this show. Character development. Something.

[Wizz]

@arkandel said in Good TV:

That's something they should have been able to work around though - Fett wears a full armor and helmet, for crying out lout. Surely they could have professional stuntmen doing the flippy flip stuff.

I kinda wonder if they ran into the Robert Downey Jr. Problem, where there was some part of Temuera Morrison's contract stipulating that he get a certain percentage of screen time for his face??

It is otherwise pretty odd how often he's just wandering around with his helmet off, considering he literally has to do all of his own grunt work for his "crime family," lol.

[Coin]

I like it pretty well. But I'm notoriously low-maintenance for shows compared to other people. As long as it entertains me for the duration, it's fine.

So it's good.

[Wizz]

I just can't with Boba Fett anymore. My mouth was actually agape watching episode four, and I kept saying out loud, "oh my god, there is no way they're about to do something that stupid. Are they that stupid?"

And then they were that stupid. It almost feels deliberate to me, like someone is just trying to drive this project into the ground and salt the earth.

***=Like how else do you even explain***

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That he thinks his armor is in the Pit of Sarlacc.

I thought he was purely going to the dumb little desert stomach monster to get his revenge, we saw him in the very first episode escape in his armor, and then try to fight with the Jawas as they stole it from him.

So just immediately baffling, like even Shand is like "what are you even talking about, why would you think it was still in there?"

But that's not even the extent of how dumb this show is willing to get. He tries to fly his big stupid impractical space ship down into the Pit, nose first, while the ship's weapons are in the tail??? AND GETS STUCK BECAUSE THE SHIP LITERALLY HAS NO THRUST OR MANEUVERING JETS WHAT THE DJDNSNWGEVRKFFIXIAJ

But then of course the jets on the back of the ship just.....magically reverse direction. The exhaust is still flaring out like the jets are propelling the craft forward, there is literally no other way they could work as designed, but...movie magic makes the ship back up, and then Shand releases a mine that coincidentally happens to fall in just the right place even though there is no physical reason for it to do that.

Just...what. WHAT.

It's like they are actually trying to make me angry.

Disney must think we are fucking morons, or just can't be assed, or I don't even know what, it is just insulting either way and I am not watching anymore.

[Lotherio]

@wizz Other than a few things, I'm faring well with the series.

I'd like to just respond with my thoughts but I have to write a few things to hide the spoiler thing so, without further ado.

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The only bad thing for me so far was the vespa speeder zipper gang. But they didn't return yet other than look alikes in the cybershop to help Fennec. And they weren't on screen much. I was okay with the chop doc. I'm more upset that instead of using the Dune Sea tuskens like fremen, they instead killed off his clan. The female warrior that trained him would have been good in his growing collection of bad asses as well. Its a shame they killed them off so quickly instead of letting them be a big part of his gig as crime lord/clan leader. It would have helped replenish the force he and others are killing off during his take over part.
Off moments that didn't turn me off. The backwards thruster thing was weird, but I was okay with the Slave I hovering over it, it looked like he was looking down and planning to repel in while the ship was lowered. The armor thing and his memory I think is going to come into play more (as Fennec even looked surprised they were looking in there and as pointed out, Jawas were part of the problem). He was hazy enough to be easily clubbed and have his armor stolen, he might have foggy memory of that event. He was oxygen deprived, he had to use oxygen found from storm trooper armor that hadn't yet deteriorated. The eye sore for me was the lining of the armor, it was like a big diaper bandage. I get it, it looked realistic in a modern sense of padding but it didn't seem to fit theme, much like zipper gang and vespas.
A lot of the other stuff, most of us have seen things similar on various star wars mu*s, so I'm seeing part of the tweaks as a little fan service to us nerds and things we've rp'ed.

I'm still good with it, mine are minor peeves with things mentioned.

[Arkandel]

Fuck you all, I binge-watched the shit out of Cobra Kai and I'm tired of pretending I didn't!

[GreenFlashlight]

@arkandel I find Cobra Kai generally enjoyable but also weirdly frustrating in parts. My biggest gripe is with little moments where child characters are written as having to reassure the sixty-year-olds (and thereby the show's audience demographic) that hey, old stuff is still cool and it's okay to have not listened to new music since 1989. Little stuff that I suspect gets on my nerves in a way it wouldn't do to others, which means it's gotta be pretty good overall, right?

[Arkandel]

@greenflashlight Cobra Kai is heeeeavily based on 80s nostalgia. And it's overly dramatic - even cheesy - by design. That's the kind of show it is!

Realism is thrown out of the window the moment cops and concerned parents haven't already gotten pretty much everyone involved in these massive high school karate brawls expelled and pressed charges on their assorted sensei.

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Hell there were complaints online that Daniel's daughter didn't fight Johnny's son in the final. Because of course it'd be a great look for this show if its season's climax involved a dude punching his ex girlfriend in the face after their breakup in front of a cheering crowd.