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@surreality said in Good TV:
@Aria Same.
There is a message it sends that I also am really not at all cool with, that I don't think they intend, and it's especially heartbreaking to me, and I just... can't.
Yeah. Yeeeeeeeeeeah. Coupled with the end of 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend', which is not at all their responsibility because those shows aren't even the same parent company, let alone the same network....
Aw man, I loved the finale of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.
I did, too. My point was more that with the timing of it ending and the season finale of The Magicians, there seems to be a sudden gap of representation of characters of -- ahhh, a particular type, which is all I think I can say without ZOMG SPOILERS -- who have positive relationships, rich emotional ranges, and are able to create meaning their lives despite the thing as opposed to their usual portrayal. Which is generally depicted as burdensome to others, horrific/a warning, a joke, or villainous. I find this deeply upsetting.
OH! You mean that you're now missing that representation because they're both off the air now. I misread earlier!
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@Roz Yep. Especially because while I would say that the character's arc in Crazy Ex-Girlfriend ended on a positive note, I absolutely would not say that about the season finale of The Magicians.
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And JFC, I am having a major feel. Yes, it was beautifully done. And yes, the character in question asking what they did at the end totally makes sense for them and their mental process. But I am legitimately really upset about it in a "representation matters" kind of way, and not just because of the specific trope @Sparks is referring to.
Yeah. There's the one trope I'm a bit upset about, and then a second representational issue which doesn't match a named trope that I know of but which I'm also a bit upset about. I suspect what you're referencing is the second of my blargh factors.
But god, I have to give them credit for execution. Despite my issues with it, it was beautiful in the most awfully painful way. I'm gonna freaking cry every time I hear that song now, I just know it.
I want to have a conversation about this but don't want to post spoilers to the board.
I think I also need a hug.
I have had a couple of private-message conversations about that finale on here because I have many feels, both narratively and otherwise.
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@surreality I can't either
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I didn't really have an representational issues with the season finale, but god damn that fire pit scene about broke me in half and gave me a People's Elbow in the feels.
Well done, and one thing I am grateful for is that they announced that they'd be back for another season next year.
Great show.
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@Ghost My main gripe has nothing to do with representation, actually. I'm 100% on board with irritation regarding the two brought up by Sparks and Aria, though, and how.
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Doom Patrol and the Beard Hunter. That shit was insanity. Amazing, dry-heave inducing insanity. And when I wasn't shutting my eyes and trying not to hurl, I loved it.
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I don't really feel the Magicians finale fits the trope. I'm going to steal from a reddit comment that summarized how I felt about it much better than I could:
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I don't really feel the Magicians finale fits the trope. I'm going to steal from a reddit comment that summarized how I felt about it much better than I could:
HUGE SPOILERS FOR THE FINALE AND ALSO A LOT OF WORDS:
***SERIOUSLY THESE ARE BIG SPOILERS***
click to show***=Ok, so, my thoughts in this vein More spoilers for Magicians follow...***
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I agree one hundred percent with you. I know this is what upvotes are for, but I don't think upvotes are enough.
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BONDiNG is amazing.
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Oh, and one more thing about Alice
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@Lotherio Rick Derringer
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@ZombieGenesis said in Good TV:
if you hurt my friends
then you hurt my pride
I gotta be a man
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