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@derp I mean, except for that weird Wil Wheaton appearance that i refuse to acknowledge happened.
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@wretched Aww I liked that. It made so much sense with respect to how Wesley left the series and Wil was clearly having so much fun. It was such a nice set of goodbyes.
I'M STILL CRYING OVER THE HUG. YOU KNOW THE ONE.
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Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
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@derp also re: strange new worlds the expansion on Spock/T'Pring was fascinating (lol) and i loved getting more insight into Vulcan social norms being matriarchal (which falls in line with T'Pau!!!). It was just such great insight into a female character who in the original series was basically just like an irredeemable raging bitch, and the show is like 'oh did you know relationships have two people in them who both have perspectives'.
When this was first bruited about I was like, ??? more prequel shit, but honestly I take it all back. Makes me wanna go look for Sarek/Amanda fanfic that takes that into account, except that I'm old and I don't have time for fanfic anymore.
(Also omg baby Uhura legitimately solving things with communication!)
It's also nice to have TV that I can watch with my dad. Discovery has been A Bit Much for him, but the aggressive tie-ins to TOS work to keep him interested. My parents were huge Trek nerds. We watched GoT together but it was basically like, uh, suffering.
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Can I also say that it was amazing to get to see Nurse Chapel in a sort of leading lady role? She was amazing. Just every second of her on the screen @Devrex and I were like "yeah girl, get it!"
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
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@derp I loved to see her and Uhura introducing herself to each other too. All the lovely nostalgic fan service, but not in a way that it was disruptive to the story? Very nicely done.
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@saosmash It could be that I'm not used to seeing MrWheaton as an actor these days. It felt very jarring to me, like they shoehorned in a commercial for a spinoff. Like for whatever reason it really threw me out of the episode. The rest tho... omg. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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I thought it was adorable, his showing up. But I respect that take!
Racism isn't Tinkerbell. It doesn't need you to believe in it for it to exist.
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@derp And i fully acknowledge my brain is weird, I can def see the happy side fer people.
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@saosmash You know what I really liked about Strange New Worlds? It wasn't dystopian at all. In fact it was downright hopeful.
I want Star Trek that speaks to the best of humanity. Showing us in a place and at a time we're not raging assholes or living in a grimdark reality where everything is terrible, but - for once - part of the solution than the problem. Giving us a vision of a future in which humans believe in something which isn't just that the one with the biggest guns wins - in fact, where violence itself is a failure, not a solution.
And FFS, a Captain of a Starship worth looking up to.
Especially in the new movies I never felt that way. Kirk was an action hero - all of them were. Which is fine, I guess, but it ain't the Star Trek I'm into.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@arkandel I 100% agree. I'm probably what others might term an "edgelord". I like dark stuff. I like really dark stuff. I read, write, and publish splatterpunk horror. I live for gritty and disturbing fiction.
Just not in my Star Trek. Or my Superman for that matter. It's why I never really enjoyed Man of Steel. It didn't feel like Superman to me.
It's also why I haven't really enjoyed Discovery or Picard(though I intend to go back and try to rewatch Picard season 1 so I can watch season 2).
And while I enjoyed the Star Trek reboots with Chris Pine and crew they also never quite felt like Star Trek to me. I just thought they were okay sci-fi movies(well, the first and third. Not so much the second).
I've been looking forward to Strange New Worlds since it was announced and I don't think the first episode disappointed. I loved it and can't wait for more. It felt like Star Trek and that excites me.
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Apparently the first very, very early review of The Rings Of Power (the new Tolkien TV series coming up, based on the Silmarillion) are good... as provided by The Tolkien Society. And these folks are pretty hardcore.
Frankly if they are satisfied then most likely so will I. Here's to hoping!
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@arkandel but it has people who arent white and everyone knows thats not how middle earth was
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I am told the Heartstoppers show on Netflix is enjoyable. I'm reading the web comic so I can't say.
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@misadventure It's ADORABLE.
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@greenflashlight said in Good TV:
@arkandel but it has people who arent white and everyone knows thats not how middle earth was
See, I'm very much a purist when it comes to the properties I'm really into. But to me that means I want it to be true to its core themes and plotlines.
For example do I think Tolkien didn't envision his characters being pretty much all white? I'm sure he did, being a product of his age. But it changes nothing at all in either 'themes' or 'plotlines' to have black Elves or whatever else.
Likewise the Wheel of Time (... <much nerdrage ensues>) was butchered, in my opinion. Was it because Nynaeve was black, Borderlanders were Asian, etc? Hell no. It's because they took the plot as well as the way channeling worked and shat on it.
I think sometimes the racial aspect expressed by a tiny minority serves as an excuse for these productions to get themselves off the hook a bit. Sure, "they made changes and that's bad" is the gist of it, but just because some of those were in adding diversity that doesn't mean everyone who objects fixates on that.
Make Galadriel any race you want, dammit. Just find a great actress and write her to act like Galadriel, not Xena: Warrior Princess.
- He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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@arkandel Yeah, if it wasn't clear, I'm mocking the kind of knob who thinks racial purity is important in a TV show about imaginary elves and wizards.
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Make Galadriel any race you want, dammit. Just find a great actress and write her to act like Galadriel, not Xena: Warrior Princess.
You take that back about Lucy Lawless, sir.
“It is better to live doing the things that you like. It is foolish to live within this dream of a world seeing unpleasantness and doing only things that you do not like.” -- Yamamoto Tsunetomo.
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