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SWEET CHRISTMAS.

That is all.

ThugHeaven

Luke Cage is pretty damned good. Three episodes in and I'm really enjoying it.

Auspice

@ThugHeaven said in Good TV:

Luke Cage is pretty damned good. Three episodes in and I'm really enjoying it.

I'm 4 episodes in and it might be my favorite of the Marvel shows now.

surreality

Under the heading of 'save yourself the time', I would not recommend bothering with the Macgyver reboot. My inner child of the 80s is sad to say it, but damn. It isn't even enjoyably bad.

And the lead looks like he meant to show up on the set of the latest high school teen drama, and made a wrong turn at the third soundstage on the left.

Karmageddon

@surreality, I learned that there is going to be a Magnum P.I. sequel. Part of me is waiting for NBC to take another stab at a Knight Rider reboot.

surreality

@Karmageddon The Knight Rider one had me in tears laughing with it's horribleness at, I am not making this up, 'our car is on fire, oh no! We have to strip down to our underwear now so we don't roast alive!'

Must have been sweeps week?

Karmageddon

Damn. Now I regret not watching the horribad reboot. YouTube, so far, has let me down. I may not have found that "hot rod" episode, but I found this reaction gif, which I consider a solid win:

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surreality

@Karmageddon Found it. First episode. 8 minutes in, the ultimate hilarity begins to unfold. You'll have to get through the first commercial and a few more minutes in, but. At lucky(?) minute 13 or so, we get the classic line: "Sarah is correct, Michael. Removing your clothes will reduce your core temperature, thus delaying your death," in robotic car monotone.

http://www.nbc.com/classic-tv/knight-rider/video/a-knight-in-shining-armor/n1869

God, that's so, so much worse (and funnier) than I remembered, too.

Karmageddon

@surreality, I mean this in as non-creepy a way as possible: I you so much, right now, and want to give you ALL THE PIE and ALL THE CRAFTING SUPPLIES. Even though I can't get past how I feel that the guy playing Michael 2.0 makes the think: That's a lot like what Jason Alexander would look like were he younger, taller, fitter, less bald, and less talented. When I'm not being reminded of James Mardsen, Scott Wolf, Skeet Ulrich, and Vincent D'Onofrio. Can his face be any more of a pastiche?

And now I got to the part when KITT became a Transformer. WTF? >.<

And now I'm at the scene you referenced and, ~~KFC~~ JFC, the bint didn't remove her metal jewelry. XD

I think the most lulz part is that the weblink classifies the show as classic tv.

ETA: Damnit. I even see a bit of Chris Pratt. Which is kind of fitting being that he was rumored to be attached to a Knight Rider feature film that I think is still just a pipe dream.

surreality

@Karmageddon It really is so horrible it becomes amazing, right? I couldn't get through even that pilot entirely, but damn did it make an impression.

(And I know what you mean about the weird hybridization. I kept trying to decide if the MacGyver dude was the bastard clone hybrid of the dude who plays Matt on The Vampire Diaries and Heath Ledger or not, and I ultimately did not come down on the side of not.)

Also: that necklace needs to go for the sake of good taste if nothing else, I mean, goddamn.

Sunny

I so totally second or third or w/e the statement about Luke Cage. Hot damn, that show is fucking amazing. It's not as brutal as Jessica Jones was (thank god), but SO GOOD. Entertaining as hell, super badass.

Ganymede

@Sunny said in Good TV:

I so totally second or third or w/e the statement about Luke Cage.

I'm not.

I like it. I really do. But it's slower than Jessica Jones, and not nearly as entertaining or witty as Daredevil. And, yes, I'm going to say it: the acting isn't as sharp.

But it's still better than a lot of the movies.

surreality

I am hoping we get more Jessica Jones. I was a bit saddened that 'Oh, let's make a Luke Cage!' show seemed to be one of the biggest takeaways of that one -- and we could use more female hero shows that aren't cheeseballs of sucktastic awfulness. (I'm looking at you, Supergirl... )

Roz

@surreality Don't worry, JJ has already been renewed. And the Luke Cage series wasn't exactly a takeaway in response to JJ -- it was already planned out as part of the Defenders quartet (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist).

also supergirl is awesome

surreality

@Roz Supergirl gives me pain. At least its presentation of feminism does, and I simply cannot get past its horrible social media pop culture shallow childishness on that front. It comes across as 'screw unequal pay, screw the right to our own bodies, screw <insert every possible serious issue here>, and let's focus on whining about how it's supergirl instead of superwoman because that's totally the most important thing to fixate on!' (etc.) in ways that make me want to stab all the things.

I can't get past that aspect of it. I just can't, and I've tried.

Edit: If they had just left all of that out of things entirely, it would have been a better show by far. If folks are going to go there, going there in the most shallow of all possible ways is just... it's worse than just pretending it's not and never has been an issue, you know? Even my mother, who is not exactly the most progressive soul, groused about how that show was an enormous embarrassment to the challenges her generation and mine have faced.

Ganymede

@surreality said in Good TV:

Supergirl gives me pain. At least its presentation of feminism does ...

I don't mind it.

Not every superheroine just marches in, sword and shield, and completely out bad-asses the boys the movie's named after.

surreality

@Ganymede said in Good TV:

Not every superheroine just marches in, sword and shield, and completely out bad-asses the boys the movie's named after.

That's not at all my issue with it, and isn't my expectation.

Misadventure

I was really hoping that all of that was a clever character growth arc for her, and not some dumbed down obvious version for the "modern"
audience.

surreality

@Misadventure I compare it a lot to The Flash, which is prrrrrrrrrrrrrobably not entirely fair of me. The Flash is really good (to me). I think they were aiming for a similar target in mood/feel/audience/etc. though, so it's hard to not make the comparison there, at least on some level. I find it ten times easier to care about and believe in the characters in The Flash -- they just vibe more genuine, and it seems to have more gravity. It's more... believable? Empathize-able with? I dunno how to put it. It has less 'glossy TV aura' going on.

I'd just rather they ignore the feminist issue by handwavium than handle it in a way that feels ham-handed or shallow to me, but I feel that way about every show and every 'very special episode' that I feel misses the mark in the same way, so it is a common festival of sighs.

ThatGuyThere

I have tried to like the Flash really i have but I just can't. I know it is likely my anti-pathy for most things Silver Age. (I am very much a Golden and Bronze age fans when it comes to comics and comics adjacent things.)
I just can't bring myself to care about what happens to Barry Allen even if the TV version is not that much like the comic version even time i hear the characters name I zone out a bit.
So it has become that odd show for me. I hear good thing about it recommend it to others but cant watch it myself.
I plan to try to watch when Jay Garrick appears again at least for the episodes he is in.