Jun 7, 2018, 6:56 PM
RL Anger
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Yeah it does. And please correct me if I'm wrong, @surreality, but you pissed her off by coming off as dismissive of her opinion. In my experience with her here, that's not how you get her on your side.
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@wizz You're wrong. Pissing her off takes a great deal of effort and the phrase "I prefer chiffon."
He/Him
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Sorry, I just went back a page and saw her response to your discussion with me, which didn't show for me because this platform is super cool and hides responses sometimes, especially if people are posting in rapid succession.
I'mma bow out man, sorry for dragging this out longer than need be.
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Don't even make with the dares about sequin tights, because I don't care how fat I am, I still have sparkly mermaid-scale leggings because I refuse to be an adult all the time. And some things you just can't unsee, people. Some things you just can't unsee.
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I just heard sequins.
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Here's the thing, talking about a thing? Especially a thing that puts us into dark places where there seems no way out at all?
Most people that I've tried to do that with just don't get it. They don't have the issue so they see all these 'outs' and the thing is when you're in that dark place there is no light at the end of the tunnel. It's just more darkness as people trying to be helpful... aren't.
People tend to ignore shit that doesn't affect them directly, which just compounds the issue.
I've never seen this show, because I /can't/ watch some things without being pushed into a darker place. It's why I never watched Law & Order SVU too.
Awareness of an issue is always a good thing though.
My problem is when something that needs to be fixed is turned into 'Entertainment'.
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Fuck you, Ontario voters who decided to elect a corrupt government shill.
It was too much to ask you to have some faith in a lesbian.
It was too much to ask you to examine how much shit this eminently-capable woman accomplished in six years, turning Ontario into the most prosperous state/province in North America, just behind California.
Yeah. Like, fuck you, people who were dog-whistled by sexist bullshit and fear-mongering propaganda that were completely divorced from fact.
To quote Ray Patterson: "Oh gosh. You know, I'm not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to leave you wallowing in the mess you've made. You're screwed, thank you, bye."
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Read all the words in my email, people. ALL THE DUCKING WORDS. EVERY ONE OF THEM IS IMPORTANT. I could understand if I had written walls of text or something but it was like 3 sentences long. READ IT!
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@surreality said in RL Anger:
@tyche ...most recent? Sure!
Go ahead and keep trying to have this argument with someone trained in fashion and costume design, it'll be cute.
Most people at my high school had trench coats. This is because -- like most other local regions of this place called 'earth' -- it sometimes rains here.
I never saw a teenager at my high school wearing a trench coat. Back then only adults wore trench coats, like teachers, businessmen, or P.I.s like Humphrey Bogart.
It didn't become a thing for high school teenagers until the late 90's.There were a whole host of alternatives, ponchos, rain coats, parkas and a strange device we called an umbrella.
So don't even attempt an argument with someone with over a half century of first hand experience with rain and snow.Let's put it this way, then:
Would an appropriate response to that statement from the student have been, "Oh, sorry, got my gross student crimes mixed up, I thought you were talking about raping an unconscious girl and posting video of it online, they were all prep jocks, right?"
I'm thinking no.
Keep your grossness to yourself, please. It's fucking disgusting and inappropriate as hell. People in this thread are talking about having lost personal friends -- who were wearing trench coats. Have some goddamned shred of human decency, for fuck's sake.
I have a hard time getting all worked up over the author's recollection of an exchange between a student and an administrator that occurred 19 years ago.
And it's quite likely they either misconstrued it or just made the whole thing up.On the other hand, you go over-the-top crazy with a profanity laced emotional tirade.
ETA: I am not even going to engage with this further, actually. Ignore time; the only appropriate response to this level of sheer ignorance.
That is exactly what you should do if you can't handle yourself.
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@Tyche Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't fucking happen.
People wore trench coats in high school depending on fashion and weather needs of the location.
Just because they didn't where you live(d) means /nothing/.
People didn't use spray on tan at my highschool, but I am pretty sure it was used in some!
Hello! Long time listener, first time caller...
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@lithium Oh lawd, is he still trying? (Apparently, the new block feature doesn't even show that someone has posted. I suddenly lurve nodeBB like it gave me a box of chocolates.)
Even the 'baggy clothing' argument is such bullshit. The 80s were the era of the tee big enough to serve as a dress. Super huge shirts and baggy jeans are still a thing. There's plenty of loose clothing that can be used to conceal quite a bit. Peasant blouses and hippie skirts can hide a lot, but I don't see anyone trying to ban those. Plus, any formal dance? Bwahahahaha. Skirts to the floor, everywhere. Some years, most of them are tight enough to hide nothing (much to much chagrin), but most years...
In '87-'91, the ancient days of my high school years, trench coats were actually the territory of the preppy crowd for the most part. They tended to be the ones able to comfortably afford different coats for different weather more than most others, and heavens forfend somebody's newest The Limited outfit got damp.
Granted, my senior year was also super weird and no one was allowed to have a non-collapsing (the ones that stay full length all the time rather than collapsing down to purse size) umbrella, for fear someone might try to stab someone with it. To this day no one's sure where anybody got the idea anyone had that idea to begin with, with the prevailing theory being 'somebody killed someone with an umbrella on Murder She Wrote or Matlock and the principal saw it and panicked'. Nail files, also banned that year; even the cardboard ones. (Meanwhile, half the guys in school wore swiss army knives on their belt loops openly the entire time I attended with zero incidents, and no one ever brought that up as a potential issue. The proto-gothy dude with the biker jacket with a pair of brass knuckles adorning each shoulder strap didn't get any attention, either.)
Maybe there is something to this whole 'fashion accessories are the actual lethal weapons' approach...
...to complete idiots.
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Whenever I read discussions like this I realize how different the time and place I grew up in was, it was very rural so knives were always seen more as a tool than weapon so not uncommon and there were even rifles in trucks in the parking lot during hunting season but not allowed in the building. Of course this in the late 80s early 90s well before the age of school shootings.
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@thatguythere The crackdown on nail files and umbrellas -- gods, just typing that makes my eyes roll so hard they start to cramp -- was because our principal was paranoid, pretty much. We were a pretty small school. The district closed the even smaller high school in the area just before my senior year, with it's 9-10-11s being split between our school and another in the opposite direction. The entire senior class came to us. (Even then, the total population from 9-12 was around 600ish? Not per class... total. And that's after absorbing all the seniors from the closing school.)
It had been known this would happen since we were sophomores, and at some 'all the sophomores in the district go see some historical movie or other' thing, there was a single fist-fight over it all, since it had been announced the week before. (The smaller school was small, but very tight-knit, with a very strong sense of community... partly because it was so small. It was also the poorest school in the district and there was a not-unreasonable amount of 'the district just picked us because we're the poor kids, the snotty fucks!' going around.)
Needless to say, out of paranoia that -- heavens help us all -- another single fist-fight might occur, the principal more or less cancelled everything that could be cancelled. Zero field trips for anyone to anywhere that year. Two school dances: homecoming and senior prom, when there had been one a month or thereabouts in previous years. Pep rallies? Zero. And so on. This wasn't a budget thing -- it was 'to ensure there were no chances for any tensions'.
We eventually had a sit-in. They threatened to suspend anyone who attended it and expel those who organized it... but when 400+ of your 600 students all cram into the lobby and peaceably plant their asses on the ground in spring, after months of not a single hint of an altercation ever occurring, well. That didn't happen.
And it probably would have looked really embarrassing for the school to expel the entire senior AP English class, who collectively wrote up the basics as an outline, which our teacher offered to proof read for us. (She never snitched, either; she was proud as hell of her 'trouble-making deviants'.)
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@Tyche Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't fucking happen.
People are remarkably unreliable when it come to relating conversations they heard a year later let alone almost twenty years later. Posting it on the internet doesn't mean it happened either.
The thesis of the article in a nut shell:
"Trust me. It won’t work. High school already sucks. Believe me when I tell you that a massive uptick in security makes it worse."The author would have had a strong point if there had been a shooting at his school after they "secured" the school. He actually bemoans that the school district had an "obscene median income" which allowed them to install security detectors/cameras, and hire armed guards. If it don't work, why is it that Sidwell Friends private school where all the elite in Washington send their children have far more elaborate systems of security and armed guards. Better the school district was poor and couldn't provide security? Sorry the article was way too long on feels and too short on logic.
People wore trench coats in high school depending on fashion and weather needs of the location.
Just because they didn't where you live(d) means /nothing/.The point is that where and when they were popular does mean nothing. And if a school district determines it doesn't want kids to wear them for "reasons" then it's not the end of the world.
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Spotted at my new post last night (Day 2 at this location), wiry lil punk ass bitch with at least 3 visible swastika tats. In a neighborhood with a rainbow of skin tones.
And here I thought the worst I'd be handling is arguments, maybe a slap fight, and basic people drama. Not the fucking ultraviolence these pieces of shit bring to places. God-fucking-damnit.
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@taika Yeah, I had to deal with AR-15 armed white nationalists marching down the street outside my job site last year. They kept throwing hissy fits when I told them they couldn't enter the building.
I can't stand people like that. Because they're inferior pieces of shit, they have to make up reasons to feel 'better' than others in spite of their own many faults.
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I wore a Canadian Airforce Trenchcoat through high school. It was an intimidating medium blue. So not just adults before the 90s.