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[Misadventure]

@Ganymede In my one second of research I went with the definition as a statistically significant deficit in some common educational activity such as mild dyslexia, delayed speech dev, sociopathy, ADD, affective disorders. Downs, and not situational factors such as living in a war zone, displaced, foster child, Texas.

My conclusion is that if 1 in 6 kids are actually impaired, and less than 1 in 6 kids I see are total pains in the ass, I blame the parent-guardians.

[Ganymede]

@Misadventure said:

@Ganymede In my one second of research I went with the definition as a statistically significant deficit in some common educational activity such as mild dyslexia, delayed speech dev, sociopathy, ADD, affective disorders. Downs, and not situational factors such as living in a war zone, displaced, foster child, Texas.

Aside from Down's, many of the disorders identified above can be caused by shitty parenting at formative periods. So, if a child is an asshole, you can probably blame the parents safely.

[silentsophia]

I resemble that remark. And it sucks. It's part of why 'awww, did your parents not hug you enough?' as an insult annoys me.

Yes, I totally chose to have a negligent, malicious, generally terrible fucking human being as a mother. Thanks.

[Misadventure]

You don't strike me as the kicky fidget at the movies type, nor the running around the restaurant under the tables leaving your food wherever sort.

I thought you liked fish. ;_;

[Luna]

@silentsophia You're a bit of a hot mess but you're an adorable one. You're just fine!

[silentsophia]

I do like fish. As friends. And no, I didn't run around because I'd get beaten for it later.

[Cobalt]

@silentsophia said:

I resemble that remark. And it sucks. It's part of why 'awww, did your parents not hug you enough?' as an insult annoys me.

"Children are be seen, not heard." sets me off probably about as much as "did your parents not hug you enough" does you. : |

[Luna]

Yeah. That's the worst saying. I don't want to see children either damnit. Stay in your closet, Harry Potter!

Seriously though, kids make noise. And I have a very chatty child. Holy shit does she talk. She's pretty good and seems happy though so its a fair trade.

[ThatOneDude]

@Luna said:

Yeah. That's the worst saying. I don't want to see children either damnit. Stay in your closet, Harry Potter!

Seriously though, kids make noise. And I have a very chatty child. Holy shit does she talk. She's pretty good and seems happy though so its a fair trade.

What?! I wonder where she got it from?!

[Luna]

@ThatOneDude Uh...no clue... <.< >.>

[silentsophia]

People, especially when there's more than one of them, are often inherently noisy. I think expecting say, a toddler, to be one hundred percent quiet is pretty unreasonable. I've grown more tolerant and understanding over the years (gawd, I was so rabidly CF in the day) even though I still wonder why someone would bring an infant to a movie. That loud bass and noise cannot be good for wee ears.

[HelloRaptor]

I've grown far less tolerant. Maybe just in movie theaters. I will not hesitate to notify ushers, security, management, whoever is supposed to get notified about disruptions, if someone's kid is being a disruption for more than a short period. Or repeatedly over numerous short periods.

Is their kid disabled? Perfectly abled but still a little monster? On medication that makes them irritable? I do not give a fuck, get out.

Oh, also libraries. If you can't stop your kid from screaming non-stop, get the fuck out.

I put up with noisy ass kids in restaurants, malls, grocery stores, on the train, in the park, all over the place. I game with friends who have four kids ranging between 8 and 1, and aside from the occasional physically painful shriek, I don't bat an eyelash at them being little monsters, but if they brought them to a movie theater and those kids couldn't control themselves? I'd have their asses out in a heartbeat.

Which they know, and so they don't take their kids if it'll be a problem. If that means they just don't go to movies if they can't make arrangements, then it does. And yeah, it sucks for them, but too bad. They chose to be parents, not the rest of us,. There's other places, other ways, you can go out and get your public on where people will feel obligated to put up with poorly behaved (for whatever reason) children. The movie theater isn't one of those places.

[Luna]

@HelloRaptor I agree.

Frankly, I don't want to sit there with a squirming, noisy ass kid, especially if it's MY kid. We will leave.

[Derp]

@HelloRaptor said:

I've grown far less tolerant. Maybe just in movie theaters. I will not hesitate to notify ushers, security, management, whoever is supposed to get notified about disruptions, if someone's kid is being a disruption for more than a short period. Or repeatedly over numerous short periods.

Is their kid disabled? Perfectly abled but still a little monster? On medication that makes them irritable? I do not give a fuck, get out.

Oh, also libraries. If you can't stop your kid from screaming non-stop, get the fuck out.

I put up with noisy ass kids in restaurants, malls, grocery stores, on the train, in the park, all over the place. I game with friends who have four kids ranging between 8 and 1, and aside from the occasional physically painful shriek, I don't bat an eyelash at them being little monsters, but if they brought them to a movie theater and those kids couldn't control themselves? I'd have their asses out in a heartbeat.

Which they know, and so they don't take their kids if it'll be a problem. If that means they just don't go to movies if they can't make arrangements, then it does. And yeah, it sucks for them, but too bad. They chose to be parents, not the rest of us,. There's other places, other ways, you can go out and get your public on where people will feel obligated to put up with poorly behaved (for whatever reason) children. The movie theater isn't one of those places.

I hate to say it, but I'm pretty much right there with you. I'm still in the 'hire a babysitter' camp. I'll happily acknowledge that I have no kids, and thus people should take my opinion with a grain of salt, but damn. This just seems like common sense/common courtesy. Having terrible children shouldn't be a carte blanche pass to inflict them on others.

[Ganymede]

@Derp said:

Having terrible children shouldn't be a carte blanche pass to inflict them on others.

And yet, adults with shitty attitudes believe they have a carte blanche to inflict them on others.

Not applicable to this situation, mind, because I'm in Raptor's and your camp regarding movie theatres. I'm just dealing with a rash of shitty, shitty people right now.

[Derp]

@Ganymede said:

@Derp said:

Having terrible children shouldn't be a carte blanche pass to inflict them on others.

And yet, adults with shitty attitudes believe they have a carte blanche to inflict them on others.

Not applicable to this situation, mind, because I'm in Raptor's and your camp regarding movie theatres. I'm just dealing with a rash of shitty, shitty people right now.

I generally try not to have too shitty of an attitude. I tend to be pretty zen about most things most days. I have my own personal peeves, naturally, but I try and stay rational. I honestly don't understand people who don't operate in this mode. They kind of baffle me.

This doesn't always happen, mind you. I'm human. Sometimes, when I think that someone is absolutely deserving of my shitty attitude, I won't hesitate to inflict it on a motherfucker. But those instances are rare. Occasional outbursts I understand. It's people that just kind of operate in constant rabid antagonism that make my eye twitch and my soul hurt.

[ThatOneDude]

@Ganymede Is this like breastfeeding in public? I mean I have kids, seen tons of boobs and yet if I'm in a coffee shop zoning out over the high levels of work I need to do and my gaze happens to fall on a breast that a baby feeds from, do I deserve the stink eye? I mean that shit isn't sexy so its not like I have my tongue sticking out and my hand down my pants, its just me zoned the fuck out. Take your breast and baby into some place private... Don't inflict the awkwardness on me >.<

[Silver]

@ThatOneDude What you do is if they give you the stink eye you just say in a loud outside voice, "Don't give me that look, Soggy Nips."

People will want to be your friend.

[Ganymede]

@ThatOneDude said:

Is this like breastfeeding in public? I mean I have kids, seen tons of boobs and yet if I'm in a coffee shop zoning out over the high levels of work I need to do and my gaze happens to fall on a breast that a baby feeds from, do I deserve the stink eye? I mean that shit isn't sexy so its not like I have my tongue sticking out and my hand down my pants, its just me zoned the fuck out. Take your breast and baby into some place private... Don't inflict the awkwardness on me >.<

I equate breast-feeding to nose-picking. It's not illegal. It's a part of nature. Just fucking do it elsewhere, and don't be a prick if I eye you like you haven't a common sense of decorum. Bitches like that are the same that complain when people are blaring music out of their car's open window while driving.

[Roz]

@Ganymede said:

@ThatOneDude said:

Is this like breastfeeding in public? I mean I have kids, seen tons of boobs and yet if I'm in a coffee shop zoning out over the high levels of work I need to do and my gaze happens to fall on a breast that a baby feeds from, do I deserve the stink eye? I mean that shit isn't sexy so its not like I have my tongue sticking out and my hand down my pants, its just me zoned the fuck out. Take your breast and baby into some place private... Don't inflict the awkwardness on me >.<

I equate breast-feeding to nose-picking. It's not illegal. It's a part of nature. Just fucking do it elsewhere, and don't be a prick if I eye you like you haven't a common sense of decorum. Bitches like that are the same that complain when people are blaring music out of their car's open window while driving.

Except that, unlike picking your nose, babies require food to survive, and maybe moms are more concerned with getting them fed than your sense of awkwardness. Because babies require a fuckton of work and it shouldn't be bad decorum to feed your kid even if someone else is there.