@derp said in Good or New Movies Review:
@auspice said in Good or New Movies Review:
I didn't enjoy Deadpool at all, for example
Dead to me.
sorry bby. I fully admit studying screenwriting has made me picky af.
Even for my love of most of TLJ, I want to tear out the entire casino section and burn it in a fire.
Only time I ever went to a LAN party... I was invited because I was the only one who could setup the internal network needed.
I'd never played Starcraft before. Rather than giving me any modicum of a tutorial, suggestions, or even 'play single player for a bit and then join us,' they brought me into their games... refused to answer my questions, crushed me, and then made fun of me for it.
I still hate that fucking game.
@Jennkryst said in NOLA: The Game That Care Forgot:
Vote for the oWoD Nagah-Gangrel rip off who will definitely be done by then. Probably. Maybe? WHO KNOWS!
just make a khaibit gdi
Where do we stand then on pre-emptive attacks?
'I disagree with you because <largely disagreement with their stance, but could also be an attack if someone is being sensitive>, but you'll never listen to me because you always <think I'm a liar / hate me / come after me / dog pile me / other reason>.'
I'd say a good half of the major blow-ups I witness come out of the above.
It's not the statements of 'I disagree.' It's the ones of 'I disagree, but you won't listen because you already hate me!' and that last part almost always puts people on the defensive because most people think of themselves as a good person and they get whiplash when they're having discussion A and someone comes after them about issue B (or dredges up Past Discussion 16 from three weeks ago).
And if your disagreement about the topic puts them on edge while you also made them defensive about their Inner Good Person, chances are they're going to come back not just defensive, but a little on the offensive as well.
Which is where I come back to my earlier point: we need to all learn to take the advice we regularly try to issue forth to game admin... sometimes it's best to just walk away. Even if you only walk away for twenty minutes to take a breather and clear your head. Whenever I find myself getting upset (I get angry more than anything else, personally), this is what I do. I get up, I walk off, and I go clean or cook or pick up a book. I just get tf away from the keyboard until the pressure in my head ebbs off. I don't always make it away from the keyboard in time, but damn if I don't try.
@arkandel said in Good or New Movies Review:
It was deeply flawed. There was way too much exposition for the plot, the jokes were welll written but didn't come naturally - there may have been some chemistry issues between the leads, or possibly the direction accounted for the wooden acting - and its action scenes were often cringe-worthy.
I really feel like they needed more table reads or at least the writer should have had some people sit around and read the dialogue aloud. It was just stilted at times. The daughter (at the beginning) didn't talk like a little girl. The exposition made me cringe. The story/plot was good. It flowed (from scene-to-scene) well with good timing, but the dialogue, man. It needed work.
@Insomnia said in Cheap or Free Games!:
However, Town of Salem is also free on the website.
What people should do is wait for the sale to be over, pay the full 5 bucks to support Indie Devs, and also get Auspice the fish pet. >.>
I paid the full $5 when I got it. I've also spent some money in-game (for the deal packages for themes). It's a good, fun game, and it's regularly being updated. They also, when updating roles, take user feedback into consideration (usually via polls).
@ganymede said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
@surreality said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
These folks' behavior is not subtle. It is not easily confused with the kind of petty sniping, catty snark, condescending bullshit, or GIF wars the regulars get into and maybe or maybe don't get worked up about. It's kinda past time for pretending it's hard to tell apart, because it's just not.
I agree.
So, we're all here good with my taking the mantle of permanent despot, right?
I thought we'd pass the crown around.
@arkandel said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
@auspice If you hear back on new year's day then they want you baaad.
Well, I mean, they did a Skype interview and tech screening last week and an in-person interview this week. I'd say they're pretty interested as it is.
Years ago, at a job, myself and someone else had to test a bunch of dongles to be sent out to people throughout the company. We're talking a couple hundred of the things.
..the word 'dongle' was slipped into conversation as often as humanly possible.
@ZombieGenesis said in StargateMUSH:
I guess that's my general problem, I feel I have "weird hours". I can be around for web stuff most any time. For in-person scenes my best times are Sunday nights, Mondays any time, and Tuesdays any time. Sundays during the day and Saturday may be spotty but doable.
I can do Sundays no problem.
And we're also debuting some methodology inspired by 'actions' from Arx (and also in use on Ithir) for people who can't be around during the Staff-run scenes since we have a few Euro and Aussie players.
Additionally, I've had success running longer-term gate trips via portal where people are expected to pose roughly once a day.
@arkandel said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
@sunny said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
Because I am. I get super snarky, and I'm sure I'd forget on occasion. Except I have zero faith that it would be consistently enforced, so the heavier moderation would smack me in the nose, while the people who are actively being mean to me...la la la, continue on their way.
Here's my point of view: You feel like this, and so do the people you think are just happily going on their way. Everyone feels singled out when it's their turn.
The line between consistent enforcement and perceiving that enforcement is more unfair to (generic) you than the others is pretty thin.
It's like sports, where players saying that referees should play it 50/50 means they should play it 90/10. It's a human trait; if you ask Tim Duncan he never commited a foul in his career.
Or to rephrase it; it's not my intention to discriminate. I have no incentive to fake playing favorites.
He's not on MSB, but one of my best friends could tell you that a couple weeks ago I chewed his ass out for being one of those people who made plans to RP in a +event with me and then tried to back out with a bullshit excuse. He claimed "something came up" IRL, forgetting he had Discord setup to show what he was playing on Steam.
I called him out. Not in a petulant way, but in a: we signed up for this a week ago, you knew it was coming, and our schedule is more flexible than the other two people involved. This is the best night for them. I know you're just playing a game or did you forget Discord shows it?
I could have just sulked. I could have made an excuse for him on the game and just tried to reschedule (since best friend), but instead I called him to task. He apologized, joined the scene, and we had a great time.
I share this because contrary to what it may seem, I am more than capable of playing fair. But as @Arkandel points out... Perception is a thing. There's also the scale of severity. Something that upsets you may not hit the scale of what needs to be moderated, even if you're upset by it. Thus it seems like "more gets through."
For example? Hog Pit is just about anything goes. Moderators aren't going to fight your battles for you in there. You attack Bob. Bob attacks you tenfold. I'm not going to come to your defense. But if you attack Bob in Mildly Constructive, I'm going to say something.
And that can be perceived as "hey no fair! Auspice didn't defend me when Bob attacked me the other day!"
This is where I feel the Hog Pit is harmful. When emotions are involved, we can forget where certain things occurred. The emotional center is not the logic center. It's just a big squishy ball of feels.
(Which, to speak, I do feel a touch offended, @faraday, that you say the whole team supports the existence of the Pit. I'm on record that I don't. But it's not my call alone to end or limit it.)
I think after the third time I'd lost a life and still had no idea what was going on and they were still just going 'Well, just figure it out!', I refused to play anymore.
I've played the online one now a few times (via Steam) and I 'sort of' get it now. I even have a few copies I could give away to people, I think. But yeah, I'm still not really a big fan overall. I can definitely point to that game as to why I don't like playing a game without reading through the book, even if I'm with people who will explain it.
I love Firefly and have missed it so much, but RL is a hot mess rn so I dunno if/when I'll be around. Need all my mental focus for SGM.
But I wish y'all all the luck.
@lithium said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
@sunny said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
I am one of the people that feels the way that @Ganymede mentioned: it is OK to heap BS in my direction, I am an acceptable punching bag, and for good fun the mods like to join in sometimes. Because they have. And it's NOT fun to realize that the people that are your recourse for being able to participate in the community are among the people that are handing out torches.
You and me both.
In regards to this, I think there is viewed a "walking among the giants" perception here.
One thing Arkandel has pressed in his management method is that he wants us -- as a team -- to be able to participate in the forum as well as moderate and for it to not just become "a job." Just as Staff on a game are players, too, this is just a forum. And this is less than a Staff gig because, let's be real, this is a fucking forum about fucking games.
But a lot of you put us on pedestals. One of the topics at hand here is we barely moderate as it is, but you guys view us on a different scale even so.
One of my personal Staffing methods when I do Staff is that I try to hang out and engage with the players (many of you who played The 8th Sea witnessed this before I had to step down due to RL). I don't just sit in a Staff room all day. I don't just speak up to issue edicts from on high. I hang out, I engage. I put the Staff Hat on as necessary, but the fact of the matter is... Staffers are just another player who have taken on added responsibility.
We're (Staffers and moderators alike) just volunteers. No one's paying us to do this. We don't get any special benefits. Really, we get more shit than anything else (in mod-land, you too can spend a day of Cirno making puppet accounts called things like <YourNameHere>Nazi just to spam you with PMs threatening you!). The least we can do is get to play.
But the perception is an issue. Because people see us as "greater than." So if I step into a discussion and say "I disagree," it comes with more weight than if Jimmy over there says it. If I say "I think you're being ridiculous," it comes across as sharper.
I have no posse or clique. I have no fan club. There is no one that dog piles in my name. And while I have my days where I get sharp tongued, I do my best not to attack people unless I am feeling especially defensive because again: there's no one to defend me. I largely stand alone around here.
But the favor that I (we, perhaps) need to ask the rest of you is to be the adults I know you are and to remember that we're just players, too, and we want to be able to hang out and not just work all the time. As has been stated... this is effort. I can and will moderate on the regular. And oft-times I want to. But a) there will be mistakes (none of us are perfect and anyone who claims to be fails the test by the mere fact they made an account on this site), b) let me be "just a player" too and remember I'm just a volunteer. I get zero perks from this job. Gany won't even buy me whiskey.
@packrat said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
New peeve, which is I think a textbook definition of first world problems.
I just spent about (translates) $1,400 on various computer upgrading and Vive buying so that I can get room scale VR set up and working at maximum efficiency, I have a room set up for it, now I am stuck waiting on Amazon to deliver the various random connectors that I found mid process that I need to complete the setup.
No electronics stores nearby were selling DVI-D dual link splitter cables!
can I come over once it's done? I really really really wanna play Bridge Crew.
The person that posted this isn't an MSBer so I'd view this as a static thread. I think the best way to get answers if you're genuinely interested would be to hop on the game as a guest.
@surreality said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
Annnnnnd on top of all of that, a lot of folks assume they know what someone else is doing... and are actually wrong. Happened to me just the other day and I felt bad about it when it was pointed out. I've been on the other side of that one a lot, too.
When I say 'I know you know what you're doing,' I mean the people engaging in attacks, et al outside of the Hog Pit.
Those that do these things know they should not be doing it. They do it anyway. It's like when my goddamn cat sneaks up around the end table and reaches a paw up to hook a claw over the basket I keep keys and such in. He knows he shouldn't and he specifically tries to get out of my line of sight to do it.
I shouldn't have to tell him no. I shouldn't have to get the spray bottle. He knows he's being bad! He tries to get away with it anyway.
That's the sort of thing I mean.
You know what you're doing when you snipe at someone outside the Hog Pit.
I know you know.
I shouldn't have to call you (general you) out.
As for deleting posts? @Arkandel has generally not been a fan. I guess because of a fear of people getting really upset if their posts suddenly disappear (there's also the issue that quotes don't disappear, I suppose). But if people are okay with it, I will totally start going in and just deleting the offending posts.
It's much easier anyway. Go go laziness.
