@Ganymede I like the character, but yeah, the actress is the weakest link on the show. Roald is a secondary character and has more laughs per screen time. At least that's my impression by season 3.
My favorite season 3 thing is how they expanded on Jonesy and Reilly past being just about Katy.
@Auspice I hope you get haunted by a ghost that excels in Pee Wee Herman impressions.
@Auspice You built off a response to my previous post OMFG UPVOTE MY SHIT YOU PHILISTINE
Lost In Vegas two black guys who aren't metalheads (primarily rap/r&b) listening to metal songs for the first time and critiquing. They also share their own favorite music with metalheads.
If I wrote a thesis about my theory that heavy metal and rap are both sides of the same coin (only with 2 different audiences), this would be part of my chief argument.
I just got "chel".
Reilly and Jonesy are all "chel before praccy" and I was trying to figure out whatever the fuck chel was. I looked it up and lololol.
When the NHL video game goes:
ENNN...
AAAAYY
CHEL
fuckin love it. Is that an actual thing in Canuckia?
I'm now on season 3 and love the shirtless model dudes after 2 season of clothes not being Katys forte. Turnabout is fail play.
I could watch her punt girls between the legs all day, and I mean that not in some kind of ball busting fetish way. I mean that more in a "My SO knows so many girls worth muff punting and would support her doing so and be all THERES MAH BABY if she did" way. Katy is a fucking badass.
@Testament said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@faraday Sheridan was better anyways than Sinclair.
Agreed. I'm partial to Sheridan taking those moments to equate hard work and Minbari relations to his love of baseball, or proselytizing on a lesson his father taught him when trying to explain abstract concepts to G'Kar.
@TheOnceler I think you should go back to read the thread.
Somewhere past the "chugga" and "chugga" and "toot" and "toot" you'll find that the fuzzy bunnies comment was not written by me. You will also find that I agreed with the hyperbole that authors are concerned about cancel culture, which was agreed to by a published author.
What exactly are you wishing to achieve? If you want to be rude about which cultural approaches to counter culture are or are not valid, feel free to open your own Hog Pit thread about edgelords and books about duckies driving tugboats, please.
Keep it constructive.
@TheOnceler Correct. I havent read a book since I was nine. Let's keep it constructive; this isnt the Hog pit.
@TheOnceler said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Ghost said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
A variant of the term, cancel culture, describes a form of boycott in which someone (usually a celebrity) who has shared a questionable or unpopular opinion, or has had behavior in their past that is perceived to be either offensive or problematic called out on social media, is "canceled"
Have there been modern authors who have been boycotted by people for having different/unpopular opinions or having taken a different direction in content than some random "fans" (airquotes: faaaans) desired?
Yeah. That's not really what she said? But also, you're deffo right. It's so sad the way that people protesting her shitty opinions has made it so JK Rowling is unable to sell any books.
The quote said that cancel culture had made modern authors afraid to write content that wasn't cute, fuzzy bunnies. That's how I read it.
@Kanye-Qwest said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Ghost well if the shoe fits your loose foot you better start jiving
curse you for foiling mercedes and myself's plan to single handedly hold back the tide of creative evolution using msb as ground zero for our john lithgow based plan of oppressive anti-creativity secularism
@Kanye-Qwest said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Ghost lol oh no kids these days don't write out their descs, they look at pictures! you and mercedes lackey can have fun yelling at clouds together and it will never change the march of progress, or the evolution of art and creation.
lol oh no someone had a difference of opinion and the only way of responding to it is by acting as if they're john lithgow from footloose all angry and ornery because them darn kids be dancin.
@TheOnceler said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Pandora said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
Nowadays, authors run the risk of getting 'cancelled' for writing anything too far beyond cute bunnies having birthday parties
I must be reading this wrong. Are you suggesting that cancel culture has made it so modern authors are afraid of writing anything 'too far beyond cute bunnies having birthday parties'?
A variant of the term, cancel culture, describes a form of boycott in which someone (usually a celebrity) who has shared a questionable or unpopular opinion, or has had behavior in their past that is perceived to be either offensive or problematic called out on social media, is "canceled"
Have there been modern authors who have been boycotted by people for having different/unpopular opinions or having taken a different direction in content than some random "fans" (airquotes: faaaans) desired?
Yes.
That quote from Pandora's post seems to be "fair ball" in my book.
@Alamias Wat. That's weird. Good news, but weird.
Okay then, Julie Strain is not dead. Schrodinger's Strain?
@L-B-Heuschkel said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
I monitor some characters' scenes like a hawk because they do really interesting stuff
Sidebar: I was always really disappointed by just how many scenes never got logged or posted. I have been of the opinion that if it happens in-game, then it should happen on-camera. I dont care if it's TS or two characters complaining about a third. I actually enjoyed reading some logs; it was something I would do from time to time while on break at work.
I did this because I genuinely liked some characters and their style, and feel that an environment supportive of posting logs and praising people for their creative efforts would do the hobby well.
@Kestrel said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
Tangent: I will gladly join @Ghost in launching a campaign to burn the played-by trend at the stake. Finally someone said it. Write your fucking descriptions, people.
<3.
It's a very simple way to be a better writer. Each character is its own little writing project to showcase your ability to flesh out the character using your skills as a writer.
I always feel like "PB over description" is a missed opportunity to actually treat the hobby like it's a writing hobby.
I wanna read, god damnit. Tired of seeing all these actors and actresses and want my mind to make new faces.
@Auspice said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
@Ghost said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
writing on this forum.
add the Creative group, n00b.
Ugh. Okay. Perhaps.
Though looking back I think you nailed it.
Okay, so MU may be "writing" in the sense that players are emulating the concept of writing dialogue and content in a novelesque style, but writing is not the same as being a writer, and no one is going to go down in history as being a prolific MU character writer. So if you want to be a writer, one will have to achieve that outside of MU.
I still think my "Text-Based Second Life" reference was hot fire.
@L-B-Heuschkel Yea. Solo writing can be very lonely. I've struggled with that silence. That's why theres so many groups about contact and support to keep people motivated.
Yanno, I might even suggest a sub-board about writing on this forum. I think one truth is that MUers may consider this to be writing, but if they actually want to write something to get published there are a number of very common things in MU that need to be unlearned altogether. Stuff like:
I think a forum/thread focusing on writing and writing advice would help encourage people who want to try to get published to do so, but also help them be prepared for it. Popular MUer != Good Writing Habits.
@faraday said in Well, this sums up why I RP:
Still writing to me. So yeah, we'll just have to agree to disagree
Totally. No love lost. Just perspectives.
Also, siiiiick Bab5 reference there, killa.
@faraday Counterpoint.
I gave this some thought a while back. I used to think the same thing that you just posted. What changed my mind about MU being writing is the following...
First, for a hobby about writing there sure is a lot of NOT writing. PBs have replaced character descriptions to the point where people have to race to pick up their favorite PB before it's taken. Some people are still into writing it all out and creating creative setting pieces on dug rooms, but it's not across the board. I'm sure there are other places (I'm just waking up), but there tends to be a lot of "move it along" and waiving of written description in lieu of pictures on a wiki.
Secondly, I think people speak of it as "collaborative writing", which i suppose it could be between specific players. As a whole? Its 20+ players all stabbing at similar plots with individual efforts and little coordination. I cant remember ever playing on a game where the plot outline was detailed beforehand and group conversations were had about necessary scenes, plot development, and who would be in charge of writing from X character's perspectives. I would say more so that players make a character and try to coordinate, but see @Pandora above; the end result isn't really intentionally collaborative writing as it might be described as "loosely collaborative storytelling environment where some characters are so clearly idealized extensions of the player that it can be difficult to do anything outside of what others want to happen". There is no chapter craft, no coordinated plot progression, and you could say that scenes are crafted, but most of the time (in Mu) a scene isnt something you go into with a point, but more to "see what might happen and it keeps going until someone gets bored or has to sleep". Turns are not taken in any form of novelization. A novel where every other paragraph is some writer taking a turn without pre-planning the content of said turn with the other author would be horrible. It reads differently.
So, I cant feel that this is evidence of actual writing, but a roleplaying hobby that considers it to be because they're emulating the style of writing. In truth, most published authors in the hobby have either left or consider their writing to be a separate entity from their RP hobby.
What happens in MU is something nebulous, but I would describe it more as a "text-based Second Life" before I describe it as being in the same vein as what Stephen King, Brandon Sanderson, or Jim Butcher (former MUer) do for a living.
In fact, the MU paragraph/turn style may hinder one's ability to get out of that mindset to make better, less purple, more impactful writing pieces. To be a writer, a MUer should get out of that MU mindset and dig into exactly what these novelists are doing, how it's done, and understand the importance of how those novels are put together. The writing style of an author/novelist is entirely different. There are no "poses", 8 paragraph purple prose entries are simply not novel quality no matter how much people think they are amazing, and the writing level of most contemporary writers targets the imagination of an adult at the reading comprehension level of an 8th grader.
So, counterpoint. I still agree with Mercedes Lackey. People can disagree with me as much as they want, but until someone publishes a 75000 word chapter of a 25000 word per scene log list of a MU that has 450 scenes, I'm gonna have to agree to disagree.
