Posts made by Ghost

@Seamus I'll read through that later. I'm busy, but curious.

I generally understand the argument of "let the pedophiles be pedophiles online rather than in real life". It is less immediately damaging and while backed by lawyers might be deemed questionably legal (yet still distasteful).

However, logically you have to ask yourself the following questions...

By providing the role of a minor in a TS scene, are you..

1. ...contributing to pedophilia in a way that could result in it being taken to RL? Could doing so result in unexpected damage to strangers?
2. ...providing an outlet for a predator who is on the National Sex Offender Registry for sexually abusing a minor?
3. ...partaking in a loggable scene of minor-on-adult sexual roleplay that could be stored on the same hard drive alongside child pornography and could become evidence in a felony?

By providing the role of an adult in a TS scene with a minor, are you...

1. ...roleplaying with a child?
2. ...roleplaying with an investigator?
3. ...breaking the law?
4. ...creating a paper-trail for your pedophilia?

No matter how it's cut, it's not pretty. It's not something the community at large supports. While YES the immediate physical damages are less when you're an iPedophile, the truth remains that by arguing its right to exist you are providing a don't-ask-don't-tell zone where sexual abuse of minors could literally be taking place on your game. I think it's fucked up that more people aren't on board for trying to keep that out of the hobby.

By running/owning a playspace that allows depicted sex with minors are you...

1. ...breaking the law?
2. ...hosting logs of live action grooming of an OOC minor having a rendezvous with an adult who is grooming them?
3. ...providing a haven for sex offenders?
4. ...placing your safety and legality at status due to owning creating a space that allows this to happen?
5. ...actually comfortable with the concept that you allow depictions of sexual interludes with minors in a way that you wouldn't lose any sleep if someone reported your game to a watchdog group or investigator?

I suppose this could be tested. Has anyone consulted the Internet Watch Foundation as to whether or not this qualifies?

@Pandora said in Cyberrun:

Archive of Our Own rakes in millions in donations each year while hosting thousands of explicit stories tagged 'Extremely Underage'. They have a score of lawyers and win prestigious awards for their work in archiving said pornographic works featuring characters that are in fact specifically stated to be children.

"prestigious"
"millions in donations"

Didn't need to know the website name, but I'm sure they're grateful for the plug! Sadly, non-pedophiles like me learn more about pedophiles every day!

Also: Add this to the bucket of reasons that we deserve to be hit by an asteroid.

@Seamus said in Cyberrun:

@Ghost said in Cyberrun:

The answer (jesus christ, why am I typing this?) is to CLEAR OUT EVERY ENVIRONMENT POSSIBLE WHERE PEDOPHILES CAN PLY THEIR KINK AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS WRONG AND NOT WELCOME, AND IF THEY PURSUE TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH IT THAT THEY WILL BE REPORTED TO AUTHORITIES.

When I ran an Anime game with underage characters... 12 and 13 year olds. It was stated quite plainly, that while we would allow the Puppy Love situations, and we used Sakura and Li from Card Captor Sakura as a perfect example of what was and was not appropriate. Anything beyond that, would be grounds for player removal. We did not tolerate the happy funtime touchy moments and had ZERO tolerance for those who wanted persue those. In fact we removed 4 players for testing my resolve with this.

Good. I think that's a very fair and safe approach

@Staricide said in Cyberrun:

Do ageplayers pedophiles disappear or do they mostly just go on to to do the same RP on discord and other chat environments where they're much more likely to encounter underaged players?

^fixed that. Rapists aren't "surprise hookup artists". Let's not flower the concept with terms like ageplayers as if it's something misunderstood.

The answer is not to allow its existence in your backyard because you don't wanna inadvertently spoil your fun time.

The answer isnt "Well might as well let the pedophiles do their thing otherwise they'll do it elsewhere!"

The answer (jesus christ, why am I typing this?) is to CLEAR OUT EVERY ENVIRONMENT POSSIBLE WHERE PEDOPHILES CAN PLY THEIR KINK AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS WRONG AND NOT WELCOME, AND IF THEY PURSUE TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH IT THAT THEY WILL BE REPORTED TO AUTHORITIES.

Lest you knowingly allow your gamespace to be a meeting point for sex offenders, pedophiles, and the minors they are grooming.

@Seamus said in Cyberrun:

Common Decency and Sense

Dare I suggest this, but...

Common Decency and Sense to me would be the MU community binding together to take a stand against online pedophilia by reporting games where it takes place to online watchdog groups.

"Age is just a number. She's so beyond her years. Is it wrong that I'm attracted to her even though she's not fully developed?"

Pretty common script for adults who advocate for dropping the age of consent to 13.

@Staricide said in Cyberrun:

If you think it's the worst thing ever that's cool, just maybe appreciate that other people might not?

So I should just chill and not wrong-fun people partaking in simulated pedophilia? That online places should be safe places for adults to partake in this stuff and that there's no risk whatsoever that those people could be active, real-life pedophiles with actual access to children?

I'll be very clear. My stance here is that fucking minors is wrong. That people who do it need to be in jail. That places that enable this sort of behavior need to be burned to the ground and that there are some things, even when written as a form of entertainment, are still illegal. To provide an online outlet for it is normalizing pedophilia.

I'm not hating anybody. I'm siding with the law and find that anyone who would partake in TS with a depiction of a child is performing a horridly disgusting thing that, as a father, I am unwilling to just chill and ignore it.

I'll take my chances in losing popularity points with pedophiles. I'd hate for them to mistakenly believe that we could coexist.

@Staricide said in Cyberrun:

@Ghost Those ages are the ages of the Idents, not characters. Basically the sleeve if you want to think about it in altered-carbon terms. Profiles are Ident based, so one character could have multiple profiles for the multiple Ident/Sleeves they run around in. Idents/Sleeves absolutely can be under 18, just the character controlling them isn't, which I'm pretty sure is exactly what I said?

Oh so I misunderstood your very clearly stated explanation the first time.

So, it's not that the character is a minor, but that the character is taking the appearance of a minor, and (using the fifteen year old appearing character as an example) specialize in "carnality" and (sic) "any freedom or vice".

That totally doesnt make it pedophilia roleplay and totally doesnt make the person getting off on it a pedo-yes it does.

Let's be real.

It doesnt matter if you bend and twist concepts like "the character is an adult but they exist as minor, so the character then isn't a minor". Clever! The end result is still the same: someone is role-playing an adult getting their kinks off on someone role-playing in the form of a minor. It's still a focused depiction of pedophilia based on sexual interaction. Which makes it potentially illegal if some court deems it doesn't pass the Miller test.

"Oh, I'm sorry your Honor, perhaps you weren't listening the first time. It isn't pedophilia. The CHARACTER is over the age of 18, they're just spending a large percentage of their time in the online environment role-playing as or engaging in sexual situations in the SHELL of someone who isn't a legal adult, thus making it totally okay then to have sex with a minor."

Don't act like this is the same thing as a 20something wearing a schoolgirl outfit or those pornstars who look 16 but are really 19. Dont act like some caveat that their mind needs to be 18 but they can shell into a FUCKING FIFTEEN YEAR OLD BODY to engage in TS makes it something that it's not.

It's still a place that is hosting TS/Kink RP with characters depicted as legal minors. It's questionably legal and it's trash. And if the players who engage in that (banging the minor-appearing characters) happen to be reading this? You are engaging in pedophilia. Pedophiles do that. That's you. You're a pedophile.

@Ominous Wanna know what sucks? A month or so ago I just clicked on a few profiles and saw one was 16. So when I went to find that one profile I saw that was a minor I clicked on one, but I didn't remember that PB. So, I decided to browse.

Nope. More than one I suppose.

@Ominous said in Cyberrun:

@Ghost

True. That might be one of their other kinks, and we don't want to encourage them.

But, for the record, I know I'm not exactly cooool. I don't have an awesome car or dont own the new Atari system. I know some people might not think that I'm cool because I'm not down with the kids and own the new Steely Dan album.

But yanno what I heard is pretty cool?

Not being into simulated sex with minors.

@Ominous Lets not wrongfun them now.

@Staricide said in Cyberrun:

In that every character is age locked to be at least 18

May wanna rethink that definition of every.

Here

Or

Here

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Here

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18 minus 2 equals 7 in San Quentin

Or

Jesus Christ

Or

Why am I finding so many???

Or

This one's 15! Str8 Outta Jr High, a crazy mothafucka named Teen-Cube

Or

Props to the wiki developer for making this page so easy to navigate

All on the "established" page.

I didn't click on their "X-profiles" because I don't have a login and HEY, dont really give a fuck about the kinks of minors.

@Thenomain I think B3 was gearbox's make it or break it moment. In fact, we may be a little lucky to be seeing Borderlands 3 at all.

They made the BONEHEADED move of releasing Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel on Ps3 a few weeks before the retail release of the Ps4, but then didnt also provide a Ps4 version of the game. (So, people bought ps4s and passed on the ps3 borderlands because it wasnt ps4. Sales were severely impacted).

Then...Battleborn. To this day I'll argue that the game had amazing potential, but it was a MOBA styled shooter with an eccentric cast of characters that was released the same day as another FPS featuring an eccentric cast of characters: OVERWATCH. Battleborn went head to head against Overwatch and lost. They didn't just lose; they got curb-stomped. A few weeks after launch very few people were playing Battleborn at all. Despite liking Battleborn more than Overwatch, I couldn't matchmake for shit because eveeeeryone was playing Overwatch.

So Borderlands 3 is the obvious "oh god please save our company" move. Go with the moneymaker. Still, I have a suspicion that Gearbox almost didn't survive those last 2 losses.

@Aria said in Carnival Row:

No one is ever going to be real-life racist against me for being in some weird apocalyptic satyr fairy cult,

Whatever, you dirty doom-hoofer. GO BACK TO ARCADIA.

Battlestar Galactica Re-Re-Reboot announced.

Link HERE

Short version: Mr Robot show-runner. Designed around Ron Moore's Galactica reboot, not 80's Galactica. So Say We All. May be a continuation or additional mythology surrounding the superior BSG reboot.

Update/Edit: THE CATCH: It'll be on NBCs new pay-streaming network: Peacock.

@Thenomain This.

If you think about it, MU is really described as: "A bunch of people writing a story together without any real game plan other than to try to have fun and make your character relevant."

Which is kind of like: "Getting 30 people together to order a total of 4 pizzas, but everyone wants at least 1 pizza to be exactly how they want it."

When people co-author a book/story together, they dont just roleplay it out and then print it. No, they plan everything (or most of everything) in advance and then trust each other to craft specific parts of that story. Author A and B both control the same characters, same story, same outcomes, but are delegating certain scenes/chapters to be written by the other.

This is not MU. This is why this stuff gets complicated. The reality is that some characters will be in the forefront while others aren't, and there's no requirement that if a character is focal for 3 scenes in a row that they swap out and allow another to be focal. There's VERY LITTLE IF ANY coordination on a large scale as to which characters are slotted for X amount of screen time for Y plot.

There is no plan; thus there is chaos.

I also love the "Fifth Element" secondary gun power. Its not called that, but in reference to it. It's one of many new gun features.

There's a number of guns where you can secondary fire some kind of projectile that tags a bad guy. You can then run behind cover and shoot around a corner and the bullets will track the tagged target. No need to aim for 8-10 seconds.

@Thenomain Have you shot at the TORGUE cereal boxes yet?

There are so many little, fun things going on in this game. Like when you kill a psycho and he yells: "MY CHILI RECIPE DIES WITH ME."

Zane: "You couldn't hit a cows arse wit' a banjo."

I'm loving Zane. Giving up your grenade for 2 abilities that allow you to run and gun around everything like it's Goldeneye is fun as Hell.