Posts made by Meg

@Auspice was that at me. :x i'm sorry; i'll stop.

ETA: It's obvious that SOMEONE took one too many college philosophy classes.

@Ghost Yes, agreed. There is often ambiguous and not-clear-cut situations. There are places where context matters. I don't think the goal posts /move/, per se, except in ways that society evolves. But the base morality is unchanging. Harming another person, mentally, physically, financially--. That is where I believe all morality stems from, in my own beliefs.

Now, if we're going to discuss what has the most impact, we can start dissecting whether intent, the action itself, or the outcome is what matters to the morality of a thing. (Personally, I believe the action itself is what is weighed foremost in considering whether an action is moral. Outcome and intent /do/ matter, but depending on the outcome and intent, it's going to vary depending.)

@Pandora

No, it doesn't gall me. I don't believe in relative morality, simple and clean. You do. Our philosophical outlooks will never align, and that's what it is. Neither of us can ever be wrong or right, but now you know where you stand with me, too.

ETA @Ganymede that I am scared to ask why? well, I guess with vamps and stuff having superpowers to control other minds--.

@Ghost Obviously it is up to each person whether they feel bad about it or not. No one can /make/ someone feel something.

But, I can say that in my philosophical approach to life, that I think someone who doesn't feel remorse or guilt about doing something bad is a bad person. I.e. if you do something immoral and you don't feel remorse, you are an immoral person. Or a sociopath.

@Ghost said in RL Anger:

@Pandora said in RL Anger:

Re: the whole 'kill yourself' thing - that's a fucked up thing to say to anyone; I don't advise anyone else to do it, but I can say it whenever I like and anyone that wants to be offended can feel free to be offended. It's literally no skin off my nose & I've never lost a friend over something I've said to someone I already didn't like

but if Pandora felt so inclined to say such a thing to someone, it's really up to the person who says it to determine whether or not they should feel bad about it.

Only if you ascribe to the idea that morals are relative to the person, and not universally to the actions (yes, speaking words is an action or typing them out in this case) that you take.

I would say, as someone believing in a universal morality, that telling someone to kill themselves is not a moral action. So if an action is not moral, one should feel some level of guilt or remorse over it if they are a moral person. That is what I posit. Others can feel free to feel differently, based on their own philosophies.

@Pandora

I would argue that philosophically, it is skin off your nose, in the long run. Morally, emotionally. Your words and actions have a weight on the world, whether you choose to acknowledge it or care or not. No one gets through life without making any negative impact, but those that don't have any care about the impact that they make? Idk, man.

@Ganymede choo choo. Do it. Even besides her, we're all cool folks! (I mean, depending on your definition of cool.)

@Ganymede @surreality

omg i was drinking when i read this. you both should feel bad.

@Jennkryst A silly twitter/tumbler thing. Rolling with the homies, a group of peeps, etc! And on Fear & Loathing.

@PuppyBreath You're welcome to roll with us! I don't know much about WoD (read: anything), but there's a number of spheres, I think? And we're rolling in vamps.

@Meg said in RL Anger:

@surreality

Though, I'd also point out, saying something is a basic bit of etiquette doesn't imply it needs to be adhered to in the hog pit.

Coming back to correct myself. Posting it in the hog pit does imply that, actually, I think. At least to me. Which is stupid yeah because it is the hog pit. I still don't think it implies you have to be offended, but definitely the other implication is stupid.

In other RL anger related posts, (sorry for the double post), I woke up with a fucking horrible migraine and I don't want to go to work, but I have used up most of my PTO. So I have no choice.

@surreality

I think we must read those things differently. I can kind of see where you are coming from but-- If I said 'don't call people Satan' is a basic enough bit of etiquette, would it have the same implication to you? That I'm saying you have to be offended by being called Satan?

Though, I'd also point out, saying something is a basic bit of etiquette doesn't imply it needs to be adhered to in the hog pit. But I just think it's a long cry from saying you have to be offended, or have to even stop saying it. (For example, not saying 'fuck' at the dinner table is a basic bit of etiquette that Miss Manners has endorsed, and by god, if i fucking paid for the food, i am going to fucking talk how i fucking want over it.)

Where did anyone say that you /must/ be offended by that? It was said that it was a term that was highly offensive, ie a lot of people would find it offensive, not all. Like, I really feel that someone read into the posts things that weren't there.

No one said you /must/ be offended by telling someone to 'Kill themselves', either. But holy shit, are a lot of people going to find that offensive. No one has to find 'nigger' offensive, either, for example. But it is an offensive word for the majority of people. I could keep going on and on.

You don't /have/ to be offended by a word and you can still acknowledge that it is an offensive word to a lot of people. If you didn't realize it was an offensive word (ie hey, i fucking used the word 'gypsy' for most of my adult life without realizing that it was a slur), then that doesn't negate that it is an offensive word to a lot of people. In that case, you still don't have to be offended, but you can acknowledge that it is an offensive word and either choose not to use it or choose to keep using it.

But I am honestly baffled where people said or implied you /had/ to be offended by it. Labeling a word as 'offensive' is not equal to saying you have to be offended by it. And yes, the context matters on what word is offensive. Saying 'fuck' on a message board is not offensive, saying 'fuck' at work could be offensive. Saying 'suck my dick' if you have one and you're in a private intimate moment with your chosen partner is not offensive, screaming out the window of my car to a woman walking on the sidewalk is.

These are not hard things to grasp. Idk, man.

shit it's happening. poking at a game with the #squad. if you wanna roll with us, let me know.

@Thenomain yeah, I wouldn't say it is wrong of anyone to cheer (except in the case of it being someone's PC and that person is already upset, but in that case it isn't wrong because of celebrating the fictional death but because you are being rude and incosiderate to the player), just that it only makes me personally uncomfortable. I'd never tell anyone not to or expect them to feel bad or moderate their behavior for it. Just admitting to a silly little thing on my end.

I have to admit, I get uncomfortable when even other people are gleeful about another person's death. Even a fictional character's death.

I can /understand/ having those feelings. But like-- reveling in it and celebrating? idk, man. Which isn't at all like your situation, @Auspice. I am just talking in generalities.

I wasn't sure where to share this story, so I'll just share it here. It's a fun story, but it also involved me waking up at 4:30 AM to the sound of cats growling and hissing and generally going off on each other.

I have two cats, one is old and grumpy, named Hides In Bushes And Trees. The other is not as old, a black cat with a few stray white hairs on her chest and orange eyes, named Orangejuice McSofa. I woke up to Hides hissing and growling and OJ for some reason. She wouldn't stop even after the usual 'staaahp' and waving at her, etc etc, which will normally end their spats.

So I got up, turned on the light, put my glasses on and was like WHAT IS IT. But then I heard another cat on the other side of the bed and I was like-- oh shit. I looked on the other side of the bed, and it was OJ. I looked back to the cat I /thought/ was OJ and see that it is not. It is an imitation OJ (that's actually skinnier and such differences I missed as I was waking up). Hides is still freaking out at this point, about to have a heart attack I think because this cat crawled into an open window in my basement condo.

I get them locked apart, set out food by the open window for the imitation OJ, who keeps hissing and growling and screeching at me whenever it sees me. Finally, after a while, it decided it was time to go. I closed the window.

Hides still hasn't forgiven me for this all happening??

oh. OH. the reason why i have been hot as shit all day and nauseous because of it, is because our air conditioner is broke. and has been. all day.

15 minutes left on the longest day in the world.

@Catsmeow said in Lords and Ladies Game:

@Thenomain said in Lords and Ladies Game:

@VulgarKitten

I would RP with you there but I've been tacitly banned from Arx, sssssssoooooooo...

Me too! --- But to back up the kitten of vulgarity, I have never RPed with you either.

Same. Now back to regularly scheduled break.

I'm gonna be one of those people. Making one of those masturbatory 'I am leaving' posts. I am not currently playing anywhere; the energy and desire to go play somewhere is slim to nil on most days. I don't see that changing in the foreseeable future. It probably also doesn't come as a surprise that I am going through a tough time right now just in general. So since I am not actually participating in the community and given everything else, I'm gonna take a step out of the community for now.

I may be back someday to play on a game again. I may not. But in the meantime, I do like some of you and if you want to be in touch, I can be found on Discord as Meg#0731. Most nights, I can be found try-harding in Overwatch, or sometimes poking around Rust or some other video game. Hit me up! And if you ever want to play Overwatch, you can hear my 12-year-old voice that Roz and Tez are always making fun of me for.