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    Posts made by Thenomain

    • RE: Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.

      @krmbm said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

      So is the "[citation needed] but all proof/examples from the past are invalid 'cause they're old" argument.

      This is a misinterpretation of what I said, but your being passive-aggressive rather than trying to find out is proving @faraday's and even @Kanye-Qwest's point: We apparently need to snark at others.

      I'm not immune. I have a far deeper theory about what is OK and what is not in the way of being raw, snarky, catty, and even dramaful.

      I choose to think that you are one data point in a sea of evidence that we don't have to do things this way.

      posted in Announcements
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    • RE: Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.

      @faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

      And frankly, if the community can't manage to have a forum without being awful to each other all the time? Then that says something about the community.

      Which is why I wanted to pipe up with, you know, a rare note of positivism: I think we're fine with it. When Soapbox popped back up, people were so glad they could be in a place that wasn't Wora that the energy was very high. I think we're perfectly capable.

      What I think happens is what I think happens to all games: The Downward Mediocrity Spiral.

      The people you want around are the people who are well-balanced and thoughtful, and they probably have lives. These people have limited time in their day and when things start going south, they can see the direction the wind is blowing or just duck out because they could get a better return of their time somewhere else.

      This leaves you with the next layer of helpful and well-balanced positive people. And the next. Eventually the game will balance out at the lowest level they're allowed to get away with by staff, either staff's own morality or staff's level of activity. (The nice thing about a larger game is that you can avoid the staff or the lower-quality players far more easily. This is why games with horribly corrupt staff can be insanely popular.)

      So very quickly, a game's player quality and energy spirals down to the people who instead of playing to add to it, play because they can put up with it. Mediocrity reigns.

      I say this out of love for the hobby, because I believe that it's true, because if we talk about things we can understand better and maybe, just maybe, we can get along better and have more fun without needing someone to "manage" us. We can absolutely manage ourselves.

      posted in Announcements
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    • RE: Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.

      @krmbm said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

      @thenomain said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

      [citation needed]

      http://www.oocities.org/idealisticgamersunite/

      (edit to address the actual quote)

      I don't think that IGU and Wora were all that different. It had a ton of administration problems, and their uneven application of their own rules caused a chilling-effect which is I think the Number One reason people stopped going there, not including the WORAites who went there to troll. The whole board was half a troll of WORA, or was at the very least an ANTI-WORA which is, IMO, the entirely wrong reason to go about making something. Some people loved the idea and they would've been enough to carry it on, but the admin didn't follow through, or they were disingenuous in doing so.

      tl;dr: If you think IGU wasn't full of drama and its share of vitriol, then you and I were on different IGUs.

      posted in Announcements
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      Thenomain
    • RE: General Video Game Thread

      Oh god oh god oh god why do Battletech and Frostpunk have to come out on the same day.

      posted in Other Games
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.

      @kanye-qwest said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

      If this place got rid of the hog pit and didn't allow the drama and slapfighting that goes on there, this place's traffic would slow down a lot

      [citation needed]

      Before Soapbox got Wora-y again, it was very active with positivity. I believe that a Soapbox For Happy People would be quite active, albeit the last time someone tried to enforce this (on an anti-Wora) the board was just as much about blind back-patting as Soapbox is about snarking.

      Maybe my idea of meaningful conversation is different than yours, but I've found life outside the Hog Pit to increase my activity on the rest of the boards and my desire to have more meaningful conversation because of it; my pessimism wanes and I don't feel that speaking up would make me someone's punching bag.

      I'm not wholly on board with @Ganymede's summary of needing to be on it if it's there, but I also no longer think that the shit-talking about a game matters for the health of that game. I'm not afraid of not having complete control, because people will judge the heart of a game by playing there, not by what spazzes think, or at least if they do then either they have a strong sense of self where they can see what the spazz is really saying, or they themselves are a spazz.

      Mind you, Gany and I have gone back and forth on foundational Mu* game design for close to a decade now, and I respect the hell out of her approach, and really anyone who has tried and failed and taken that in stride.

      No GIFs.

      Sorry.

      posted in Announcements
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Interest Check: Ancient Greek RP

      I will bounce off what @coin said to pitch Part-Time Gods, not post-apoc/post-god(s), but I like how it manages to have basically a superhero "all-spark" mythos but not be drowned out by an all-encompassing metaplot or setting focus. I personally find it awfully human, which is to say I think it would make a good Mu*. I would play it as an optimistic future, knowing that the gods in our past were complete dicks.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.

      @arkandel said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

      @auspice On production, as @Thenomain has taught us.

      alt text

      posted in Announcements
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    • RE: Good TV

      @mr-johnson

      What? The original was a hot mess developed on the sets paid for by Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, sneaking in after hours to shoot. (This is really true.)

      But it was original and made with the same care and ideology of most 60s American TV Scifi (the hippies), so it gets a major pass.

      All the reviews for the new LiS have it being strange but not bad.

      Unlike ReBoot, dammit, which looks to be an ill-conceived cash-in.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.

      @insomniac7809 said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

      I am not going to fucking haggle with you

      I am very ashamed to say this, but I have developed a racial bias against Indians (et al.) because of this. I'm ashamed because if I look at it more clearly there's very little cultural reasoning for this, but that the Indians (et al.) seem to be the most adamant that this is a thing. I'm okay with people being a little persistent, or even asking, but it's the laugh when I say no that pisses me the hell off. I have unfortunately found that saying something in a lightly angry tone is the only way to stop this; I hate being angry, but the third time I say no, the third time I explain why, if you're continuing to hammer at me then yes I'm going to cut off friendly conversation with you.

      I will still talk to everyone as equals until they do something like this, but damn it seems to be the f'ing Indians most of the time.

      (Note: May not be exclusive to Indians, as far as my ignorant ass knows. Part of what makes it a horrible prejudice is that I don't honestly know. I just wish people would stop this.)

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Tenuous Tie-In or Original Universe?

      @lotherio

      I'm with you 100%.

      But if I can still get into the game with basic (e.g., movie) knowledge, then this is a wonderful compromise: Something made for light and heavy fans alike. A light touch on the game wiki should provide a lot of help. "Hell's Kitchen is where the downtrodden of Metropolis live; even under Superman's watchful eye, small crimes affect small people, and organized crime lives for this."

      Clearly I don't know my comic book lore, but you get the idea.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Real life versus online behaviors

      @ganymede said in Real life versus online behaviors:

      @thenomain said in Real life versus online behaviors:

      The medium is the message.

      Shut up, Marshall.

      Only when you can prove it's not true.

      😛

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Real life versus online behaviors

      I'll be honest: I don't care if people are the same on-line as off. I care how they act.

      I do find that very few people act the same on-line as off because of how we interface with one another.

      The medium is the message.

      Everything else is conscious effort. This is why I will forgive anyone who shows a willingness to change, or an awareness of their actions. Slapping someone down who is trying to do good is a good way to get them to stop trying, and then you're a part of the problem.

      Mind you, a lot of people will say it's not their problem. These people aren't wrong, but it doesn't absolve these people of participating in this person's change or lack thereof. No man is an island. Everything you do or don't do affects the world around you. It's part of the pain of being a sentient being, and something we have to live with of ourselves.

      Those people I know who are the same on-line as off- are aware of the medium in a way that most people don't. They take that upon themselves in a way that most people don't bother considering.

      It's a pessimistic outlook, but it's why I think talking from a position of understanding is the only way to fly. If everything is a matter of perspective, then starting from a different perspective means bringing people with you.

      I just have a hard time maintaining it because so many people are assholes and I don't have the patience for them.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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      Thenomain
    • RE: General MSB announcements

      @arkandel

      I pity anyone who tries a Spectre attack and gets our memory space.

      (By pity I mean laugh a lot.)

      posted in Announcements
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Real life versus online behaviors

      Due to the medium, it’s easy to forget that people online are people.

      I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying it is. I’ve both been that person and counciled those people when I was staff. If they don’t care when confronted with the fact, those are the people who I have no sympathy toward when escalating to dealing with them.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: Roleplayer's shower thoughts

      My shower thought: I enjoy talking about RP I’ve had than RPing.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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    • RE: A New Star Wars game? (Legends of The Old Republic (Name pending))

      @mr-johnson

      Absolutely, but make the game you want to play and you will enjoy running it.

      posted in Game Development
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Looking For Old Darren @ Arx

      @auspice said in Looking For Old Darren @ Arx:

      @arkandel said in Looking For Old Darren @ Arx:

      ... What's with all the GIFs?

      Hasn't been done in a while, but we used to do rhyming gifs/images in relation to the name of the person being looked for to keep the thread 'bumped' until the person was located.

      ... Yes. That's why.

      posted in A Shout in the Dark
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Looking For Old Darren @ Arx

      @templari Furries?

      alt text

      posted in A Shout in the Dark
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      Thenomain
    • RE: A New Star Wars game? (Legends of The Old Republic (Name pending))

      Hey @Mr-Johnson, a friendly note:

      You seem to be doing okay with the input, but it's okay to think that Game Design by Soapbox is one of the worst ways to do it. Take everything said with a grain of salt or two. Or ten. Hell, have a whole salt-lick.

      posted in Game Development
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      Thenomain
    • RE: Game Restarts

      @wildbaboons

      What kind of player reaction did the game get during/after the first? Did the Dinos cry and wail? We are prone to that, you know.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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