Best posts made by Tinuviel

@L-B-Heuschkel said in MU Things I Love:

When you run an event in which you expect the players to pretty much pull out their switchblades and go to town on a mediocre villain

@Derp And then you have to hope your paper is interesting enough to be published by organisations bound only by their own rules and strictures...

As far as I'm aware, the... overall point of Wolfenstein is to kill Nazis.
So if you're having a Wolfenstein MU*, people will expect to kill Nazis.

@Derp said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

ETA: Thirty copies of practically the same report? I thought that was a journal?

That and teaching. Which is what I and @JinShei do.

@surreality Addendum 2: If you're typing paragraphs to a channel, over and over, and everyone else is giving you a line? Shush.

@Sunny I seriously thought I was reading the MU peeves thread still...

@Groth said in Tips for not wearing out your welcome:

neuroatypical people are an atypical context

We're also not a monolithic structure that can be dealt with using generalisations.

@Rinel Write your original work, then change the names to protagonists of various works. Call it a cross-over.

Any attempt to use MUing for anything more than playing the game(s) is dangerous. It's not like a traditional tabletop game, where you're with the same crew for an extended period that you know (or come to know) and trust. Can bonds form and trust develop? Absolutely. But that's not what they're for, and that's not what other people are necessarily looking for.

There are eleventy hundred unwritten rules seemingly designed solely to trip up "interlopers", since this hobby was founded by outcasts for outcasts in the mists of time immemorial. There are going to be times of error and mistake, this is not a personal affront. If people don't like you, for whatever reason, that is not necessarily anybody's fault and pleading to try and understand why they don't like you is an exercise in futility much of the time.

@JinShei said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@Tinuviel Yes! I mean, there was one point where a crash suggests someone flipped a table!

And this is the BBC JinShei Service. Police action was undertaken today at the house just up the road. That bint that puts her bins out on the wrong day and her useless husband entered into a verbal dispute on the subject of unpurchased milk. The bint elected to mention three other times her useless husband was unable to complete a single task, at which point the husband flipped the large table, sending three plates crashing to the floor. These plates, it was later revealed, were a wedding gift from the bint's late mother and their destruction is, quote, "just more proof that he doesn't really care."

More on this story as it develops.

@silverfox said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

By allowing people to opt-out of the discussion (said with the understanding that people can ignore, block, unwatched any thread they want) before it can even be started (such as people who ignore the whole politics thread for perfectly valid reasons) then we are complicit in allowing them to stay unchallenged in their viewpoints. I think this discussion should happen in a place where people have to actively look away to preserve their own bias.

I entirely disagree. I think there are plenty of valid reasons to ignore such a discussion on MSB without it having anything to do with biases. I sure as shit wouldn't want to have to opt out of seeing what some of you lot think about gay rights after I get home from a Pride event, for example.

If the topic is purely about Diversity in MUing, then sure public free-for-all. But if it's about race, the current racial climate, the history of racial abuses and ignorance in literature stemming therefrom... I don't agree that it should be opt out.

But this isn't a hill I'm dying on either, just explaining my point a little clearer so the Daily Mail doesn't think I'm buying a subscription.

@Ominous said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@surreality said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

'a great sword and sorcery novel'.

Not really. The author relies on a fuckton of deus ex machinas to make things work.

Well. I mean. I think it's just deus in that case.

@Rinel said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

Should have read the Revelation to John

Oh I did, but that's clearly just someone's fanfiction.

I'm all for encouraging diversity in terms of players and characters. Diversity of all kinds.

But people will always want to play what they want to play, and we shouldn't suggest that they shouldn't. Unless there's some inherent evil or immorality to what they're playing that goes against the setting.

@Chet Well. I hope you pass "Actually Reading What Was Written 101."

@Sunny said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

I mean, I honestly don't mush for the challenge of it. Difficulty/challenge/work are just not things I want to do. Sometimes they're required to get to the good stuff, but I want this fun to be (relatively) easy for me, because everything else in my world is so damn hard.

ETA: When I want a challenge, my go-to is challenges that involve SKILL and objective success/failure metrics. Not my collaborative hobby. Not roleplay.

Agreed. I want my characters to be interesting, obviously, with things that are occasionally challenging to play with without being a challenge to think about. If I wanted to challenge my preconceptions or my biases, I'd read a book, not play a game. And I think that's perfectly okay. So sure, partly it's escapism. I don't want to turn off the news and go to a game only to have to deal with the same damn thing. But mostly it's about my interests. I play old characters, generally, because that interests me. I play characters of cultures that interest me. I play characters with quirks that interest me.

And I utterly detest the suggestion, however mild, that I have to seriously consider the real world and all its flaws when making a character that is supposed to interest me.

@somasatori said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

I'm about to start on my PhD in clinical psychology myself

So... if a guy needed some lithium citrate... you could help out with that prescription right?

To add to my last: I'm not afraid of getting my portrayals wrong or causing offence (seriously, has anyone thought of me as someone that cares about that?). I'm afraid of being bored. I never play myself, or a version of myself, or much really resembling myself (aside from general intelligence and wit. Playing dumb is dull for me.) because I am myself, and I'm boring.

I think that if we, as a community, really want to have our conceptions challenged and our biases tested... we really need to stop talking about what we think we should do and instead get actual people with actual stories to tell and give them a place to tell those stories. Nobody gives a fuck what a middle-class white (though not White, technically) person thinks about how a black dude from the Bronx would deal with a situation. But I'd be fascinated to see what an actual Black person from the Bronx does differently to me.

I'd love more gay characters. But I sure as shit don't want straight people trying to tell gay stories.

@insomniac7809 There's two versions of the song "Living Next Door to Alice." One is normal, one features the lines "Alice? Who the fuck is Alice?" during the chorus. I had only heard the latter version, so whenever it would come on the tradition would be for the audience (this was a prime karaoke song) to shout the added lines.

Picture my surprise when I was the only one doing this for the 'normal' version of the song...

@egg said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

If I spend most of my leisure hours in a place where "representing yourself" = white (and even moreso, Aryan half of the time), shouldn't I want to see change there?

Sure.

Blaming people for being white is a stupid fuckin' thing to be doing though.

@insomniac7809 I keep forgetting how weird the US is with religion.