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@lordbelh We're getting snooty anachronistic bigots that hate folks that aren't them.

Sounds actual-Paris enough to me.

That's not what I said. I said we do not have a freedom of speech, of any kind. The government can make laws at any time restricting what we can say, and where we can say it, and so forth.

@Third-Eye said in Fanbase entitlement:

So basically, we're allowed to say whatever we want in our fiction, and we're all allowed to make our own.

Well, no. Copyright and good taste need to be taken into consideration. If I wanted to make a book about vampires that come from five different lineages and so on and so forth... I think Paradox (or whoever owns the rights these days) would be mildly peeved if I started making money off of it.

There is no "canon."

If someone is writing, or creating, something in an established 'universe' - such as Star Wars, or James Bond, or Transformers... you can ignore canon all you like, if you really want to. But the kinds of people that read/play/otherwise absorb such content are likely going to be people that like, or at the very least understand, the 'canon' as presented in the 'official' media of those subjects. So, sure.

You can make whatever you like. People can also think what you made is shit.

@Auspice That's the best result. Well done to the both of you.

@Arkandel I think my last sentence answered that one: If you take a thing someone else has made [...] and people like the original... expect kickback if yours is radically different.

I'll admit, the only real "right" an absorber of content has in the case of them not liking something is, simply, not to absorb it. Complain, critique, and spread the word if one must, sure. But ultimately, nobody is under an obligation to do anything about a content absorber's dislike.

So, yes. If HBO turned Harry Potter into Sin City meets Generation Kill, Potter fans would be within their rights to be upset. I would also be right to call HBO stupid for doing so (until viewing/financial information proved me wrong). But HBO would also be right to make that, if they wanted - they would not be right in making it and acting surprised when fans of the IP voiced concerns or criticisms of the content they created.

@Monogram She got paid millions for that forty-eight seconds.

I doubt I'd last ten. Har, dee, har.

@Arkandel said in Fanbase entitlement:

See, that still doesn't satisfy me @Tinuviel. Let me be more clear on why.
Just because we know kickback is expected it doesn't make it justified. For instance George Martin delaying Winds of Winter for years was guaranteed to cause the fanbase to grumble but it's perfectly within his rights to not work (which is what it is) if he doesn't want to. Those are separate things.

Sure, and I hold that (at least roughly) one entity's rights end when another entity's rights begin. Thus if something doesn't meet expectations, then the expector has the right to complain. They do not have the right to react in a way that the average person would consider over the top. Your football team doesn't win? You can be angry, but you can't riot and raise hell, for example.

So does fiscal viability play a role (and what kind of role)? For example the Star Wars prequels were quite successful financial but the common consensus is that those movies were shit; does the number of tickets sold alter the premise? Was Lucas less stupid for doing them the way he did because it still made money?

It depends entirely on the goal of releasing the content in question. Making the prequels might well have been a passion project yadda yadda, but the ultimate goal of a film-maker of such a scale as Lucas is to make money. He made money, therefore he wasn't stupid in my view. His creative decisions may have been stupid (I didn't actually mind the prequals), but he wasn't. I was, however, more intending on making a flippant remark about money being more important than quality.

Making a MU*, on the other hand, is generally about creating an environment for others to do things with. Creating a toolset, as it were. If Bob Staffer, per your example above, gave a certain toolset to the sphere and people enjoyed using it they'd certainly be right to complain when Tim Staffer replaced their tools with something they didn't want to use. Therefore Tim has failed to create the environment that others wanted.

Movies are about one generally static group making a thing, with the rest of us absorbing it. That's it.
MUs are about one sometimes changing group making a thing, another variable group taking that thing and playing with it, and giving it back to be played with again, and again. There is a process of evolution and change that happens on a MU, and will eventually (ideally) work itself into a place where the majority like it. If someone then comes in to upset that equilibrium, then naturally the people that worked for the status quo, and those that came in with the intention of experiencing same, will be annoyed. And I'd say they'd be right to do so.

All Gaul is divided into three parts, one of which the Belgae inhabit, the Aquitani another, those who in their own language are called Celts, in our Gauls, the third. And then the murders began.

@surreality @SG Well, now I have a Promethean concept...

• It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife. And then the murders began.
• It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. And then the murders began.
• Someone must have slandered Josef K., for one morning, without having done anything truly wrong, he was arrested. And then the murders began.
• Somewhere in la Mancha, in a place whose name I do not care to remember, a gentleman lived not long ago, one of those who has a lance and ancient shield on a shelf and keeps a skinny nag and a greyhound for racing. And then the murders began.

If it's based around a Mercenary Company, it would definitely have to be a small-scale game. Unless you're just planning on using the setting in which the stories take place which, having not read the books, sounds somewhat like generic-fantasy-game-R-US.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And then the murders began.

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That's his management. Go get 'im.

@Ghost Humblebrag much?

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