@Arkandel said in Tips on Güd TS:
I'm mainly thinking of people (I think @lordbelh mentioned something along such lines?) who prefer handling everything purely IC if they can help it, so in such cases do you feel filter partners out based on anything other than poses?
I don't really look for romantic partners when I roleplay. Sometimes it happens organically in the story and I really don't screen that. If it goes to hell it goes to hell, I'm rarely so invested in a story that it can't blow up at some point and be replaced with something else. If I know someone is a dramawhore I've probably disengaged a long time ago anyway. Sometimes someone asks me (and looking back its always been someone else to initiate that idea) to come in with a predefined relationship and then I'll only take on someone I've had a positive experience with before (not necessarily a romantic one, just it has to be someone I know I enjoy RPing with), and I'll turn down people I don't know at least a little.
But ultimately I don't see the great harm in things not turning out perfect. Even the worst dramasplosions rarely last forever. Live and let live, man.
@Arkandel said in Tips on Güd TS:
While we're on the matter, how do you folks pick viable romantic partners for your characters?
I've gone a lot of directions on that one.
@lordbelh said in Tips on Güd TS:
I don't really look for romantic partners when I roleplay.
I totally thought we had something in our bromance, man. sniff
@surreality said in Tips on Güd TS:
- (Most prevalent by far.) There's IC chemistry. If the player seems sane, it might be worth a shot. If the chemistry continues to develop in that direction and there are no OOC red flags, I'll run with it until there's a reason not to (OOC crazy surfaces, they vanish from the game, IC events separate the characters).
This is my way, exclusively. Consequently, I've met some quite-awesome RPers.
Except that jerk @lordbelh, who won't even recognize the chemistry between us.
All that advice was "Girls don't do this, women don't do this, women do this, girls do this", "If your a guy playing as a woman..."
Feels a mite sexist eh? EH!? I've played with plenty of terrible women who have done all the terrible things you described!
Why do you hate men?
/s
I try to focus on IC chemistry, but there's certain people I play with where our characters frequently have that chemistry just due to the types of characters we play.
The last time I actually had someone 'new' with chemistry, they turned out to be the alt of a friend. Amusing, but it was a moment of 'Damn! I thought I'd found someone new to add to my list of great RPers!'
Honestly, the big thing that pisses me off about someone seeking TS is if they ignore 'potential competition'.
I ask OOCly if someone is okay with a relationship/TS happening, and if there is anything they prefer to happen or don't want to happen.
I used to just go the RP route and hope for the best path... and went years without ever having any IC relationships. Which, I don't RP for the sake of RP'd relationships, but sometimes it'd be nice to have them.
Few years back, I saw the potential for a great relationship between my PC and someone else's. Swallowed the fear, paged and let them know essentially, 'Hey, I think our characters could be great together.' Said person is now one of my best friends and favorite people to RP with.
I do use my tendency to no engage regularly in TS as a sort of litmus test. I'll be up front: 'Hey, I rarely TS unless it has some impact on the story.' If they bail right then and there, I know they weren't in it for he reasons that I am (good story and char dev).
Also, I mean, morning after scenes are almost always far superior to the TS scene itself. 
[http://hahasforhoohas.com/the-fart-that-almost-altered-my-destiny]
I once actually did use a fart (and would have upgraded to a shart if necessary) to get out of a really annoying (and creepy ooc as well as frankly boring as hell) TS scene when I first started mu*ing and didn't know I could call in ftb or like a non dumbass just log off. 
Though the above link kinda makes me want to drop something like that just for fun in the romance department. I can totally see one of my current pcs in particular doing that.
And I would be very genuinely absolutely delighted to have anyone drop something like that in a sexy scene if it was appropriate. I do with people inserted more humor into things like that.
@silentsophia said in Tips on Güd TS:
Honestly, the big thing that pisses me off about someone seeking TS is if they ignore 'potential competition'.
This kind of baffles me when it happens. I try to roleplay through everything. If some male character wants to try to muscle in on my character's girl? I say go right ahead. Roleplay through it. I've had characters cheat on my character with zero OOC drama on my end. But! I've been the male character in a scene getting ICly flirted with by more than one girl at a time and have watched the two female characters outright ignore each other, and I have to admit, that is definitely one of my red flags for both players when that happens. It tells me that there is a chance that both players aren't separating IC from OOC emotion and that I need to pay close attention.
Just because I don't feel like people do this enough in life in general:
Communication is key.
The best/most ooc-ly sane TS scenes I've ever had were largely with one of my now-best-friends, because there was excellent OOC communication.
I think most TS scenes I've been in throughout the years were memorable because of good communication from an OOC standpoint.
That or the scenes were just that awful/mildly traumatiZing. >>
But I think mostly good, because communication.
Communication.
Did I mention communication?
Eta: Should mention that when I say communication, I don't mean planning out every detail. Mystery is good. But not totally blindsiding someone is good, too. If things come up that make a scene uncomfortable, say so. Or whatever the issue may be.
@ThugHeaven said in Tips on Güd TS:
@Lithium See, no. I really meant read erotica in general....no disclaimer. Now you're getting into what's good and what's not; which is for whoever is reading it to decide.
The reason I mentioned Zane is because it's arguably bad yet I enjoy reading it. There's a whole lot of things that count as erotica, from 120 days of Sodom, which I think a lot of people have read to The English patient to The Tropic of Capricorn.
But without reading a variety, how would you know what you like? Reading a variety could actually help your writing.
I don't think reading erotica needs a disclaimer at all.
Well I am glad I am not the only one who feels that it needed a disclaimer, thanks @Cobaltasaurus .
The reason this needed a disclaimer is because a LOT of erotica is pretty much derogatory crap (or worse rape stories) written by people who don't really understand the subject matter (ie: 50 shades) or don't understand what it is that /makes/ something hot, let alone what is good writing. If people just grab random erotica and read it under the impression it's going to help them, well it's probably not.
There's a /lot/ of erotica out there, a crazy amount. Everything from Dinosaur porn to Bigfoot to supernatural romance to office romance to every other kink you can imagine. Not all of these make for good reading or help write anything remotely good when it comes to TS.
If you want the best bang for your buck, so to speak, /TALK ABOUT IT FIRST/. Don't just drop sexy times on your partner and muddle around grasping at straws. Talk about what language is good, what limits and squicks might be had, even what person (When dealing with two individuals of same gender 'you' can go a long ways to differentiate who is doing what rather than she/her he/him/his or whatnot).
Communication is key. No two people are going to like absolutely everything the same to the same amount, and it takes some effort to get things to click as best they can for everyone's sexy times enjoyment.
Hello! Long time listener, first time caller...
@Cobaltasaurus Nobody hates you! You said that the last time. You can flake and return, you weren't running a story scads of people were counting on or anything. You're fine!
@Gingerlily said in Tips on Güd TS:
@Cobaltasaurus Nobody hates you! You said that the last time. You can flake and return, you weren't running a story scads of people were counting on or anything. You're fine!
I want to be a pretty princess. Flakes can't be pretty princesses.
@Cobaltasaurus said in Tips on Güd TS:
@Gingerlily said in Tips on Güd TS:
@Cobaltasaurus Nobody hates you! You said that the last time. You can flake and return, you weren't running a story scads of people were counting on or anything. You're fine!
I want to be a pretty princess. Flakes can't be pretty princesses.
I'm fairly certain every single pretty princess whose defining trait is being a pretty princess is a testament to how wrong your statement is.
The reason this needed a disclaimer is because a LOT of erotica is pretty much derogatory crap (or worse rape stories) written by people who don't really understand the subject matter (ie: 50 shades) or don't understand what it is that /makes/ something hot, let alone what is good writing. If people just grab random erotica and read it under the impression it's going to help them, well it's probably not.
All of this is entirely subjective. While I've never felt disrespected or criticized by anything I've read I do agree that there is a lot of erotica out there that could be considered poorly written. That said I've seen some erotic series that I thought were terribly written gain a very rabid following. I feel erotica, more than any other genre, shows us just how diverse we are as a people. This is all thanks to the fact that we don't have publishers declining to publish stories because of their personal feelings on the matter. If someone wants to write and publish something...they can!
This has led to an amazingly diverse genre that has, literally, something for everyone. When you have a genre this diverse a lot of it, possibly most if it, won't be for everybody. Whether it be a style of writing or the specific subject matter it is going to resonate with some people and not with others. I have a peeve where the use of the word "rump" to describe someone's ass just turns me right off. Not even sure why, it just does. Because I don't like it I would not say all books that use the word rump should have a disclaimer on them, however.
As for your mention of "or worse rape stories) believe it or not rape is one of the biggest requests my wife and I get as writers of erotica. There is a large demand for rape fiction and it's not all from men, I'd say half of the requests we get come from women. Again, everyone is different in what they find sexy and erotic. Now I'm not saying that just because there is a demand for it you should write it, I'm just noting that there is a shocking (to me) amount of demand out there for very hardcore/violent sex.
If any kind of disclaimer was needed it might need to warn newbies to erotica that they might want figure out their own hard limits and learn to identify what stories may offend them and avoid them.
There's a /lot/ of erotica out there, a crazy amount. Everything from Dinosaur porn to Bigfoot to supernatural romance to office romance to every other kink you can imagine. Not all of these make for good reading or help write anything remotely good when it comes to TS.
If you want the best bang for your buck, so to speak, /TALK ABOUT IT FIRST/. Don't just drop sexy times on your partner and muddle around grasping at straws. Talk about what language is good, what limits and squicks might be had, even what person (When dealing with two individuals of same gender 'you' can go a long ways to differentiate who is doing what rather than she/her he/him/his or whatnot).
Communication is key. No two people are going to like absolutely everything the same to the same amount, and it takes some effort to get things to click as best they can for everyone's sexy times enjoyment.
This I agree with very much. As a player I play both male and female characters and I've had both sexes just sort of jump right into sexy goodness when I wasn't ready, prepared, or willing to do so myself. I don't think great in depth talks are necessary but certainly making your partner aware of your own limits (or lack there of) might be a very good thing. I think Shang's +kink system works very well as a passive way of setting up what you're willing to do as a player. Barring that I think liberal use of +finger notes is a good thing too. Pre-emptive communication as it were.
@surreality said in Tips on Güd TS:
@TNP said in Tips on Güd TS:
Most important: don't play a female (granted, this only applies if you're going to TS a gay guy)
It never fails to amaze me how many people try to force this anyway (from any given direction). It actively bothers me, and I'm bi, ffs.
I'm honestly not too surprised by it. I have several friends that often have women flirting with them specifically because they know they are gay. There's apparently as many women who have the fantasy of being the girl to turn a gay guy straight as there are guys who have the fantasy to turn a lesbian straight. (Though not as many as there are with men who fantasize of turning a lesbian bi.)
I just read this and I think I should leave it here:
http://astolat.tumblr.com/post/144069870158/badscienceshenanigans-0hcicero
Saying the quiet parts out loud since 1996.
@Duntada said in Tips on Güd TS:
I'm honestly not too surprised by it. I have several friends that often have women flirting with them specifically because they know they are gay. There's apparently as many women who have the fantasy of being the girl to turn a gay guy straight as there are guys who have the fantasy to turn a lesbian straight. (Though not as many as there are with men who fantasize of turning a lesbian bi.)
It goes in every possible direction, really. "You'd go gay for me I know it!" is another permutation from the other angle.
This is one of those areas in which it actively bothers me that people don't leave well enough alone. IC comments like that, fine, whatever, they happen RL... but pushing hard for it OOC or throwing around dice to force it really annoys me and is destined to make many players very uncomfortable at record speed.
@Auspice said in Tips on Güd TS:
I just read this and I think I should leave it here:
http://astolat.tumblr.com/post/144069870158/badscienceshenanigans-0hcicero
...can confirm, malachite is not something you want a lot of moist skin contact with (though arguably the amount of time it'd take to fuck the rock would not really constitute this even if it wasn't, uh... condomed, as it takes time for those reactions to really kick off; though that looks like it's been polished which strips much of that chemistry from the top layers but will in fact replace it with OTHER chemicals you don't want near your nethers either), and do not want to grind without heavy duty respirators and ventilation if at all. Or probably grind on.
What. I have been looking into lapidary equipment this year. What do you people want from me?!
It is sad, sad, sad, and very telling, that I focused my brain on the rock end of that particular rorschach test. Green shiny rocks are apparently higher in my brain's pecking order than pensises. Wow doesn't that just say it all.
@Cobaltasaurus said in Tips on Güd TS:
I want to be a pretty princess. Flakes can't be pretty princesses.
Most pretty princess characters fall under the special snow flake category, so some flakes are pretty princess.
@Gingerlily said in Tips on Güd TS:
@Cobaltasaurus Nobody hates you! You said that the last time. You can flake and return, you weren't running a story scads of people were counting on or anything. You're fine!
I want to be a pretty princess. Flakes can't be pretty princesses.
