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    • Lithium
      Lithium @Kairos last edited by

      @Kairos I know one had to have all automated character creation removed, but that was mid 90's. There was another afterwards that did automated character creation and got away with it so I think he's gotten more lax as I said above.

      Hello! Long time listener, first time caller...

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      • Please Delete
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        • Catsmeow
          Catsmeow last edited by

          I think it's too fricking hard to automate RIFTS cg. Ugh. It hurts my brain to think. However, as someone who was on a game in the 90s. There was never anything told not to automate the game. We tried for a few but there were too many bugs and it drove our coder crazy (and I broke it a lot), so we took it down. Although I doubt you are talking about that game. >.> .. no wait I mean.. 😉

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          • Tinuviel
            Tinuviel @Catsmeow last edited by

            @Catsmeow said in NO-GO IPs for MU*:

            [..]>.> .. no wait I mean.. 😉

            Fucking meta.

            He/Him

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            • Lithium
              Lithium @Catsmeow last edited by

              @Catsmeow It's not that hard, just a humongous amount of data entry really.

              Hello! Long time listener, first time caller...

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              • ZombieGenesis
                ZombieGenesis @Catsmeow last edited by

                @Catsmeow The big problem I had with coding a Rifts c-gen was just that it was tedious. Every OCC or RCC needed something special about it. That's one of the reasons I was so excited for the Savage Worlds version of Rifts to come out, it's a much simpler system.

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                  ThatGuyThere @Catsmeow last edited by

                  @Catsmeow
                  As someone who runs a Rifts TT the mere thought of trying to automate and code that monstrosity of a system makes my head want to explode. Hell, the data entry for the skill list alone would be brutal since every book adds more skills.

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                    Cheesegrater @Please Delete last edited by

                    @RDC

                    No, they understood what MUing was - Steve Jackson Games hosted/ran PyramidMOO back in the day, predating the US edition of In Nomine.

                    They've just always been very touchy about computer licensing of their products, ever since the deal to license GURPS for Fallout fell apart and they missed out on getting their name on one of the most beloved CRPG franchises ever made.

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                    • Coin
                      Coin @Cheesegrater last edited by

                      @Cheesegrater said in NO-GO IPs for MU*:

                      @RDC

                      No, they understood what MUing was - Steve Jackson Games hosted/ran PyramidMOO back in the day, predating the US edition of In Nomine.

                      They've just always been very touchy about computer licensing of their products, ever since the deal to license GURPS for Fallout fell apart and they missed out on getting their name on one of the most beloved CRPG franchises ever made.

                      So basically you're saying they're super bitter.

                      Also, nice to see you around again, CG.

                      "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                      • Cupcake
                        Cupcake last edited by

                        Maybe they were expecting another FBI raid?

                        (I kid, but for the fact that they really were raided by the FBI, ha ha.)

                        "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                        -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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                        • Ghost
                          Ghost last edited by Ghost

                          Sembieda/Palladium right now are taking a serious, vicious fanbase beating right now for that Robotech RPG Tactics Kickstarter.

                          Edit: Belatedly, so I wonder if they take the same approach to the Robotech license. I've seen a few Robotech games over the years, but they're being more active about Robotech in the last 5 years.

                          Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
                          I really don't understand He-Man

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                          • Cupcake
                            Cupcake last edited by

                            Robotech?

                            I don't care which, but the first game that lets my character pilot an AJACS gets me.

                            "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                            -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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                            • Ghost
                              Ghost @Cupcake last edited by

                              @Cupcake I would play the ass out of any game that puts my character into a Valkyrie

                              Delete the Hog Pit. It'll be fun.
                              I really don't understand He-Man

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                              • SG
                                SG @Please Delete last edited by

                                @RDC said in NO-GO IPs for MU*:

                                I was actually playing on an In Nomine MU when SJG found out about MUing and shut them down. Basically, they argued that MU*s violated their "video game" license - you could have a MU, they said, but you couldn't electronically store or alter sheets. Meaning no XP, no rolling, sheets couldn't be stored on the server.

                                Basically: they completely failed to understand what MUing was, or completely failed to explain it to their lawyers.

                                SJG's position on MUs is confusing, because in the basic set they encourage online forums and chat clients for playing with people.

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                                  I just found out the board game night I go to is hosted by a guy who works for Steve Jackson Games. I could ask him about it in person if folks want.

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                                  • Bobotron
                                    Bobotron @Ghost last edited by

                                    @Ghost
                                    What happened with the kickstarter, out of curiousity? Did it sink completely?
                                    Also, there have been Macross MU*s. They invariably fail due to the niche.

                                    @Cupcake
                                    YAAAAAAS. SPARTAS hovertank FTW as well.

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                                    • surreality
                                      surreality last edited by

                                      Robotech is maybe the one sci-fi setting I could oomph enough to play.

                                      Sure, my hair is green now. I may or may not have wanted to dye it that color since I was a wee little tyke because Miriya was my heeeeeeeero, though. <cough>

                                      My mother may or may not mercilessly tease me for it, but when I'm 50billion feet tall some day, I'mma get my revenge!!

                                      Oh fucking well.

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                                      • Bobotron
                                        Bobotron @surreality last edited by Bobotron

                                        @surreality

                                        I'm weird in that I never liked Robotech as itself as a kid, though I love Macross (I know, the Macross portion of Robotech was the least changed, but it's still weird to me).

                                        It'd be an interesting exercise though, depending on how you ran it. I could see the BSG 'Robotech fleet' of like, colonization as in the later Macross entries working, with an unknown/staff-run enemy, like the Vajra or Protodeviln, working well.

                                        ALSO: BEST MILIA AND MAX
                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1MlXmNSL7s&t=10s

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                                        • Catsmeow
                                          Catsmeow last edited by

                                          One of my first games I found without invite or friends on it was a Robotech MU*

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                                          • Cupcake
                                            Cupcake last edited by

                                            Can we all agree that Minmei needs to be shot in the head tho

                                            Fuck Minmei, for rlz

                                            "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                                            -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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