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    The Apology Thread

    A Shout in the Dark
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      gasket last edited by

      I take back absolutely everything I was going to say about this place having better general behaviour than WORA, and how it was unfortunate that all this good behaviour made it difficult to tell who was better off avoided.

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      • Cobalt
        Cobalt Tutorialist last edited by

        Aah, here, you can have these trophies back. We didn't ask for them in the first place.

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        • Tinuviel
          Tinuviel last edited by

          A'ight. I'll give this apologising thing a go, what could possibly go wrong?

          Some of you may be aware that I was Stalingrad at The Reach, perhaps the staffer with the least pleasant reputation - a reputation that was certainly earned.
          I caused several problems, not least of which the betrayals of trust of not only the Mage sphere overwhich I was nominally in charge but many members of staff and people I considered compatriots, if not friends - several of whom are present here on the forum.

          I could say that I allowed myself to be manipulated by one of the more toxic erstwhile members of our community. I could also say that I was scared of said toxic member. But, these are excuses. My "reasons" for being such an absolute dipshit of a staffer, and a person, are mostly just that I was inexperienced at dealing with such people, and did not know what to do - and just went with what I was told. Be that as it may, it doesn't at all change the fact that I was abhorrant, causing prople of all stripes to rightfully find fault in me.

          I, thus, wish to apologise. Not only for my behaviour and favouritism (which is plainly what it was, in spite of my protests at the time), but for my attitude and behaviours off the game in the now-infamous skype conversation. I proved myself as nothing more than a monsterous individual that was willing to say or do whatever to gain the favour of those that are less than reputable.

          I do not, of course, expect this public spectacle to gain any sympathy or forgiveness. I don't know, honestly, if what I am feeling is remorse or simply acknowledgement that I failed as a person placed in a position of trust and authority. Either way, I am sorry, and hope that all future endeavours of mine in this community can be met with, if not acceptance, than the civility that I've seen thus far.

          He/Him

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          • Arkandel
            Arkandel Admin @Tinuviel last edited by

            @Tinuviel said in The Apology Thread:

            I proved myself as nothing more than a monsterous individual that was willing to say or do whatever to gain the favour of those that are less than reputable.

            Dude, it's just a text game. You weren't monstrous.

            Just get better at not being manipulated from now on. You can prove it by giving me $20.

            • He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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            • Tinuviel
              Tinuviel @Arkandel last edited by

              @Arkandel While MUing is just text, the things I said (I can't recall actual examples at present) off the game were... well. Brutal and bordering on libel. I can legitimately say that I hurt people beyond a "taking things too seriously on a text game" angle.

              He/Him

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                ThatGuyThere @Monogram last edited by

                @Monogram
                If the bread you eat is bland you are most definitely eating the wrong bread.

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                • Monogram
                  Monogram last edited by

                  It's evil. Full of carbs and gluten. Anyone who's proponent of white bread is a bad person.

                  Like @WTFE

                  Bad person.

                  MUSH-free since 02/2017

                  This may or may not change in the future.

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                  • WTFE
                    WTFE @Monogram last edited by

                    @Monogram said in The Apology Thread:

                    It's evil. Full of carbs and gluten. Anyone who's proponent of white bread is a bad person.

                    Like @WTFE

                    Bad person.

                    Who said anything about white bread?

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                    • Coin
                      Coin last edited by

                      Public apologies are for politicians. If you want to apologize to a specific person, track them down and apologize. If you can't find them, buy a 40 oz. and deal with your guilt like everyone else does.

                      "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                      • surreality
                        surreality last edited by

                        Eh, I can see a place for it. If you want to apologize to a broad group, for instance. @Tinuviel's example is a good one of this and I don't doubt the sincerity of it.

                        Oh fucking well.

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                        • Cupcake
                          Cupcake last edited by

                          I sometimes feel like offering a public apology is part of owning up to the responsibility of one's actions, but it seems like a lot of people feel like private approach is a preferred way to go. Thoughts?

                          "If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?"
                          -- Hamilton: An American Musical

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                          • Goldfish
                            Goldfish last edited by

                            I gotta own up to some of my bullshit from years ago.

                            I was staffing at a large game and I was off my meds. Suckers got lost. I did some unethical shit that I regret to this day...even though it was years ago. I lost a good friend in that mess and I regret that even more and I am sorry. I shouldn't have been staffing in that condition. I shouldn't have did what I did.

                            I'm sorry.

                            Am I the baddie?
                            Yes. Always yes.

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                            • Arkandel
                              Arkandel Admin @Cupcake last edited by

                              @Cupcake I think as long as an apology is given honestly and without an agenda, whatever form it may take, it certainly beats the alternative.

                              • He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool.
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                              • Coin
                                Coin last edited by

                                You never really know a person's agenda.

                                The onus is ultimately on the recipient to either believe or not.

                                At least in private you're sure they aren't doing it for wider recognition.

                                "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                                • TiredEwok
                                  TiredEwok last edited by TiredEwok

                                  I think people should be less worried about how an apology is given - public versus private, wording, etc - and just be happy people are willing to say they're sorry when they fuck up. Right now people are just picking nits over this entire thing and it's getting to become pretty ridiculous.

                                  "Just leave me alone. I'm not myself. I'm falling apart, and I don't want you here." - ― Daniel Keyes, Flowers for Algernon

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                                  • Coin
                                    Coin last edited by

                                    I'm not picking nits over anything, personally. I just gave an opinion and people weighed in. I mean sure, it's super nice people are willing to apologize. But color me skeptical of the bandwagon effect, because some people will climb up on any cart just to get where they're going.

                                    "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                                    • mietze
                                      mietze last edited by

                                      Seems like perhaps this should be seen more as a confession thread (which definitely has its own merit).

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                                      • Coin
                                        Coin @mietze last edited by

                                        @mietze said in The Apology Thread:

                                        Seems like perhaps this should be seen more as a confession thread (which definitely has its own merit).

                                        Confessions are a horse of an entirely different color, I will agree.

                                        "Excuse the hell out of you. He's a bag of dicks. I'm a carefully curated box of cocks." -- to @GirlCalledBlu upon being misrepresented.

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                                        • TiredEwok
                                          TiredEwok last edited by

                                          @Coin

                                          I didn't mean you, hun. But a lot of other people seem to be interested in picking everything in the OP's first post apart and then picking apart everything everyone else says and... it's kind of becoming a self-perpetuating, never-ending thing.

                                          "Just leave me alone. I'm not myself. I'm falling apart, and I don't want you here." - ― Daniel Keyes, Flowers for Algernon

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                                          • WTFE
                                            WTFE @TiredEwok last edited by

                                            @Apu said in The Apology Thread:

                                            @Coin

                                            I didn't mean you, hun. But a lot of other people seem to be interested in picking everything in the OP's first post apart and then picking apart everything everyone else says and... it's kind of becoming a self-perpetuating, never-ending thing.

                                            So … business as usual for the WORA-descended line of sites?

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